Builder Timing Bug? INFLATED

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Originally Posted by Wh33ls

Personally I do not believe it was an intentional scam implemented by SC in the 1st place. However, now that it's been 1.5 years without fix it seems as though SC have adopted the "can't be bothered attitude" since the bug works to their favour due to the increased revenue - no matter how minimal.

To prove my point:


Of course it isn't critical for them they're gaining profit off it.
Steve once stated recently that he has a Th8. Clearly he isn't a serious player due to the amount of time he's been at SC for. The only way to experience how critical this bug really is, is to actually play the game regularly & to have a rather well developed village - as I'm sure the majority of people on this thread do & have.



Under this logic the bug will NEVER be fixed. Perhaps once they stop updating the game & have nothing new to add then they might actually get around to implementing a fix.

In other words SC have created an unintentional "scam" & have come to realise the benefits available to them by keeping it in the game. As a result they've decided to do nothing about it whilst providing the response that the bug is "too hard to fix" - which it probably connveniently is - & are currently reaping the benefits.

I hate to go into much further detail since I would only be repeating what's been said by others & myself throughout the entire thread.

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Care to show me where he said that? I met him on global atleast 5 months ago, and he was in champs with a quite highly developed base...

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Originally Posted by Ragequitter

I like the quote, but is it not just as insane to continue reading and visiting such a repetitive thread? Are you expecting different results? It doesn't seem like you feel the bug is a big deal so is it insanity that draws you here? P.S. I admit it, I'm also insane

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It is the insanity that draws me here. I feel the need to offer counter points and opinions lest it infect the innocent who may recieve it as gospel.

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Originally Posted by Wh33ls

Have you ever considered that repeating ones self offers guidance & provides those who have recently entered the room with information that they may have not already encountered.


Food for thought. Yum.

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If these were spoken words this point would be valid, however this is written and can be reviewed at will.

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Originally Posted by Coathanger

Critical has a seperate meaning when dealing with software/bugs. This instance would be refering to how it affects useability or ability of the software to perform. An example of a critical bug would be one that crashes the game or results in data loss and this bug is neither.

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If you read the context of the early pages of the thread it's clear to see Steve is referring to the criticalness of the bug in reference to how it affects it's users in game - the time lag of upgrades. Namely the OP's point & the general audience.

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Originally Posted by KL597

Care to show me where he said that? I met him on global atleast 5 months ago, and he was in champs with a quite highly developed base...

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http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=A00Bl1i71so

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Originally Posted by Coathanger

If these were spoken words this point would be valid, however this is written and can be reviewed at will.

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View it at your own will it was merely a response to your (what I would deem nonsense) meme. :rolleyes:

Seeing as the majority tend not to backread 87 pages (I don't blame them) I believe there's a lot of truth in that.

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Originally Posted by Coathanger

Critical has a seperate meaning when dealing with software/bugs. This instance would be refering to how it affects useability or ability of the software to perform. An example of a critical bug would be one that crashes the game or results in data loss and this bug is neither.

This does help reinforce the point you were replying to that people here are involved in arguments they are not educated in.

*edit* To add, the severity of the bug being described as not critical can also refer to how the customer base reacts to it measured in degrees of dissatisfaction. Being that the vast majority of people who have posted in this thread continued or continue to play the game with the knowledge of this bug reinforces that the bug is not critical.

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Originally Posted by Wh33ls

If you read the context of the early pages of the thread it's clear to see Steve is referring to the criticalness of the bug in reference to how it affects it's users in game - the time lag of upgrades. Namely the OP's point & the general audience.

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Hate to quote myself but you left out the edit 40 minutes prior to your post.

If it is clear to you I may need to borrow your glasses as I see the context spanning multiple threads on this bug and Steve reiterating SC's evaluation of the bug.

And omg arguing about Steve's village is insane but please reference the time this occurs in the 15 minute long video if you wish to offer it as evidence to a frivolous argument.

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Originally Posted by Coathanger

Hate to quote myself but you left out the edit 40 minutes prior to your post.

If it is clear to you I may need to borrow your glasses as I see the context spanning multiple threads on this bug and Steve reiterating SC's evaluation of the bug.

And omg arguing about Steve's village is insane but please reference the time this occurs in the 15 minute long video if you wish to offer it as evidence to a frivolous argument.

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I agree with your edit. However it's difficult to ignore the fact that the bug benefits SC, whether they deem it critical or not. Of course people still play with the knowledge of the bug, but I myself would deem it critical enough to need fixing as soon as it becomes viable.

The OP of the thread is to discuss the "Builder Timing Lag" & Steve has reiterated that SC do not feel the bug is critical.

As I said earlier -

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Originally Posted by Wh33ls

If you read the context of the early pages of the thread it's clear to see Steve is referring to the criticalness of the bug in reference to how it affects it's users in game - the time lag of upgrades. Namely the OP's point & the general audience.

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The thread was not made to discuss the fact that the bug doesn't make the game crash or whatnot. Take note of the thread title & general audience.

8:20 - Understanding how critical time lag is for it's users would help aid the communication & the overall understanding between players & himself. Something I doubt is possible whilst maintaining a casual Th8.

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Originally Posted by Wh33ls

Personally I do not believe it was an intentional scam implemented by SC in the 1st place. However, now that it's been 1.5 years without fix it seems as though SC have adopted the "can't be bothered attitude" since the bug works to their favour due to the increased revenue - no matter how minimal.

To prove my point:


Of course it isn't critical for them they're gaining profit off it.
Steve once stated recently that he has a Th8. Clearly he isn't a serious player due to the amount of time he's been at SC for. The only way to experience how critical this bug really is, is to actually play the game regularly & to have a rather well developed village - as I'm sure the majority of people on this thread do & have.



Under this logic the bug will NEVER be fixed. Perhaps once they stop updating the game & have nothing new to add then they might actually get around to implementing a fix.

In other words SC have created an unintentional "scam" & have come to realise the benefits available to them by keeping it in the game. As a result they've decided to do nothing about it whilst providing the response that the bug is "too hard to fix" - which it probably connveniently is - & are currently reaping the benefits.

I hate to go into much further detail since I would only be repeating what's been said by others & myself throughout the entire thread.

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Exactly how much of a profit are they really making from it? I wouldn't imagine that it is a lot. Those that are hardcore gemmers tend to gem things instantly, not wait a while and the gem it. Certainly not long enough for the bug to have any meaningful effect. They aren't getting it from troops because again those tend to be gemmed instantly.

Plus, it is ridiculously easy to get gems in the game without buying. I managed to save up 720 gems within 5 months, and only about 100 of them total came from achievements if that.

They are certainly making a profit, but would fixing it really hurt their profits at all? They make over 1 million dollars a day from their 3 games combined. Even if we assume 5% (a very generous assumption) of that comes from the builder time bug and take that away, it is still a ludicrous amount.

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Originally Posted by Supergoji18

Exactly how much of a profit are they really making from it? I wouldn't imagine that it is a lot. Those that are hardcore gemmers tend to gem things instantly, not wait a while and the gem it. Certainly not long enough for the bug to have any meaningful effect. They aren't getting it from troops because again those tend to be gemmed instantly.

Plus, it is ridiculously easy to get gems in the game without buying. I managed to save up 720 gems within 5 months, and only about 100 of them total came from achievements if that.

They are certainly making a profit, but would fixing it really hurt their profits at all? They make over 1 million dollars a day from their 3 games combined. Even if we assume 5% (a very generous assumption) of that comes from the builder time bug and take that away, it is still a ludicrous amount.

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I can't imagine it would be hugely significant figure but that's not the point. The fact is that they aren't fixing it & thus aren't losing anything by doing so; they are in fact gaining. No matter how small the profit is it is still beneficial. Convenintly for them the bug is a "tough fix" which I wouldn't be surprised at all.

Now if another bug which had the same level of impact on their playerbase was present & was causing them to make an equally small loss, then I'm sure it would be their #1 priority on their list of fixes.

The bug remains & by not removing it they are not losing anything. If the above (2nd) scenario was true the bug's fix would be old news.

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Originally Posted by Supergoji18

May I just say something to everyone on here?

You sound exactly like the 9/11 conspiracy theorists. You are dead set on your belief that Supercell is evil and purposely created this bug. You have no solid proof of your claims, just a lot of assumptions with a little bit of fact here and there. You act like you know how to program and fix bugs, but most of the people on here are barely out of high school or college, just like how 9/11 conspiracy theorists act like they're architects and engineers. Furthermore, you insult anyone that doesn't agree with you by calling them "blind" or "fanboys" just like the conspiracy theorists calling people "sheeple." Your articles sound like sensationalist bull♥♥♥♥ and you don't act mature enough. No wonder a lot of people are not agreeing with you. You are going about it the entirely wrong way.

Now I admit, it has been a while that this bug has been around for, and it is costing us more gems than normal. But there is still no proof of a scam. If there were Apple would be on their asses, as I am pretty sure they are not making money from it. In any case, why don't one of you file a law suit against them if you really think this is a scam? Get someone to investigate them instead of blabbering on and on about it on the forum, making empty threats? Surely there is someone on here who knows how to go about doing this, right?

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+1 Thank you for this post.

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Originally Posted by Wh33ls

I can't imagine it would be hugely significant figure but that's not the point. The fact is that they aren't fixing it & thus aren't losing anything by doing so; they are in fact gaining. No matter how small the profit is it is still beneficial. Convenintly for them the bug is a "tough fix" which I wouldn't be surprised at all.

Now if another bug which had the same level of impact on their playerbase was present & was causing them to make an equally small loss, then I'm sure it would be their #1 priority on their list of fixes.

The bug remains & by not removing it they are not losing anything. If the above (2nd) scenario was true the bug's fix would be old news.

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Wouldn't customer satisfaction get them more money in the long run? Pissing off your customers with a bug like this for 1.5 years can't possibly be good for customer satisfaction, even if only the forum knows about it. I'm sure there are enough people who are not buying gems simply in protest of this bug. Then again, the forums aren't exactly that big.

Okay so is there anyway of fixing this bug ?