Yet another NO MATCH FOUND; going on 6 days now.

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Originally Posted by 2222

I was happy to hear some statements recently from Darian that seem to be counter to what has been said before, though. Perhaps the tide is turning. As was mentioned earlier, SC is very slow to react sometimes. Look how long it took them for hall sniping and modding. Maybe they finally are getting close to the point of saying it is more important to force even wars than it is to support the "freedom" to upgrade however you want.

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i also was very happy with his statements about closing the loophole that was never intended. this seems to be very different then the old language of we want to keep all the play styles viable. it will cause an uproar but maybe it really is for the better.

we gave up our .5s a long time ago when they started matching infernos/eagles and we never bothered to go head on engineered like many other clans decided to do. the whole, have to engineer to have a chance mentality that many players adopted did not sit well with me especially with the high chance of wild variations in matches it could bring.

currently we just matched a clan that has a few 9.5s and a 9.11, all of them are mirroring our max inferno th10s thus we will probably have another easy victory for our 24th straight. the funny thing is that when i was researching their prior opponents i found interesting results. the clan we are facing now, with a nearly identical line-up, matched an opponent with 3 eagles and 4 inferno bases. moving on to their next war, now they match us a clan with 4 eagles and 10 inferno bases.

this is my problem with bringing .5s, you just never know what you will get and if your .5s will actually match other .5s or full on real bases or not

Some interesting comments in here.

Think you all need to come to the realization that do not care about the following:

1. Fair wars ( there is aw )
2. People building defenses

You can add these 2 items to the following, which have existed longer;

1. Trophy pushing / clouds
2. End game content

The reason I say this, is their design principles and their latest offerings

1. Builder base - spam attack, 5 wall segments, way simpler game play. 1 build , no resource management, just gem and go.
2. Brawlstars / CR


I just dont think complex algorithms to "fix" the game are in their interest while the cash is flowing.

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Originally Posted by ryryshouse

Some interesting comments in here.

Think you all need to come to the realization that do not care about the following:

1. Fair wars ( there is aw )
2. People building defenses

You can add these 2 items to the following, which have existed longer;

1. Trophy pushing / clouds
2. End game content

The reason I say this, is their design principles and their latest offerings

1. Builder base - spam attack, 5 wall segments, way simpler game play. 1 build , no resource management, just gem and go.
2. Brawlstars / CR


I just dont think complex algorithms to "fix" the game are in their interest while the cash is flowing.

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very very sadly you may be right, but i dont think we should give up.

convince nerf + dorsan + onyx + friends to put together a suggestion pack for supercell and all get behind it, those of us who would like more competitive wars.

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Originally Posted by ryryshouse

I just dont think complex algorithms to "fix" the game are in their interest while the cash is flowing.

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I agree and on top of that they know their own complext system hasn't been very successful. That is why I hold out hope that they will eventually drop the hammer with a blunt, simple improvement to nerf engineering, even though it would negatively impact several of my own accounts. Darian's recent comments gave me hope.

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Originally Posted by 2222

I agree and on top of that they know their own complext system hasn't been very successful. That is why I hold out hope that they will eventually drop the hammer with a blunt, simple improvement to nerf engineering, even though it would negatively impact several of my own accounts. Darian's recent comments gave me hope.

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Why are you hoping for the options with wide effects that they will never implement, rather than nerfs simple progressive weight tax that taxes bases at an increasing rate as they become increasing lopsided?

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Originally Posted by Vikingchief

Why are you hoping for the options with wide effects that they will never implement, rather than nerfs simple progressive weight tax that taxes bases at an increasing rate as they become increasing lopsided?

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I'd be happy with either since either would be an improvement. Heck, I'd be happy with a new powerful th11 troop that you can't get without building all th11 defenses, or more levels to royals that you can't get without all defenses, or th12 th at you can't upgrade to without building all th11 defenses, etc. Any improvements are a good thing. To bring this thread back to the OP, the fact that the matchmaker now is trying to avoid very uneven matches (trying being the key word) is a good thing, even if that results in some clans not finding matches.

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Originally Posted by Vikingchief

very very sadly you may be right, but i dont think we should give up.

convince nerf + dorsan + onyx + friends to put together a suggestion pack for supercell and all get behind it, those of us who would like more competitive wars.

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I'll let Onyx, Dorsan, and Nerfed stick with their ideas. Ill be the "and friends part" and make a bunch of my previous suggestions of how to fix the clan war scene with outside the box game changing changes on the level of Builders Base.

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Originally Posted by SuperStorm103

I'll let Onyx, Dorsan, and Nerfed stick with their ideas. Ill be the "and friends part" and make a bunch of my previous suggestions of how to fix the clan war scene with outside the box game changing changes on the level of Builders Base.

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short term nerf

medium term - dorsans, onyx and friends

longterm - superstorm and friends

I've given up on searching for wars with my heavier engineered accounts. As i found myself in a similar boat with lengthy war searches...

I am having no issues finding wars with a non engineered line up.... note still finding some odd match ups out there.

Gl

They won't fix it.

What they might do is introduce a new game mode that supersedes it and meshes with their design principles.

I think a 5v5 tournament style war with short timers 2hr/2hr would be huge.

It seems so obvious to me I don't understand why they haven't done something like they are in brawl stars or royale but with slightly larger player coop and longer timer