When i have a final draft of this maybe i can post it in general then have a mod move it to here, when its in this subforum i get like one reply every other 3 days it seems lol
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When i have a final draft of this maybe i can post it in general then have a mod move it to here, when its in this subforum i get like one reply every other 3 days it seems lol
I think that your troop should go back to like level 3 or 4 not 1Quote:
Originally Posted by Boblo
Ok i might change it, but it is really easy to upgrade them back if you already have level 6 troopsQuote:
Originally Posted by GreaseeMonkee
Small bump! This thread is a month old, dang i hope sc has seen it by now hahhah
I like the idea.
i have another add to the idea: the buff barb option (the one that gives more HP for the barb) maybe the barb could wear a shield?
Thanks!Quote:
Originally Posted by bigt7799
Yeah maybe i could have him wear the clan shieldQuote:
Originally Posted by 001rens001
I really like the concept of this idea.
Please correct me if I've read wrong but lvl 1 mutation is a continuation of stats of a lvl 6 original? If so they would need to bring out more levels of defence for balance.
Yes they would have to come up with some traps and defenses to counter theseQuote:
Originally Posted by xarianax
Great idea
Thanks for the feedback!Quote:
Originally Posted by JakeFromGeico
Seems like a pretty cool idea, hope to see it at least acknowledged by sc.
? What does op mean? Not in the forums often enough overplayed?
It could mean some different things but most commonly OverPoweredQuote:
Originally Posted by Abohrtionist
Do it!!!!!!!!!!
Lol yeah do it supercell!Quote:
Originally Posted by TheMerryPranksters
Bump, almost to 5,000 views!
Amazing! Almost 80 votes on saying yes! Thank yall
Instead of losing the mutation you previously chose, you should be able to switch between mutations.
I agree, but make it cost money...1 mil to switch?Quote:
Originally Posted by Alec31778
That sounds ABSELOUTELY AMAZING! I WOULD LOVE ALL OF IT, apart from being unlocked at max troops, i think it would be better at town hall 6 as there is no point of upgrading lab from 4-5 as it unlocks no new stuff.
Alright i will have to see what other people wantQuote:
Originally Posted by SirJonalot
In the thread i included the mad scientist update that allows you to change itQuote:
Originally Posted by Chaoticz
Same statement as aboveQuote:
Originally Posted by Alec31778
Working on a new update! Would you guys want...
Better mutations
or
Muatations for traps, spells and walls?
Better mutations.:o
Instead of just an increase of stats, I'd rather see some new abilities, like the one the Healer has.
ok, thanks for the feedback :DQuote:
Originally Posted by 966souchou
Bump. Maybe if we can get some more votes that would be great :D
Hi!
While this is well thought out and highly detailed, it appears to be that you are suggesting something like alternate upgrade paths. While I think that this might work for towers, and even for spells, I think it is too complicated and based along the lines of other PC based tower defense games such as kingdom rush and the BTD line.
Yeah, it was sort of inspired by those types of games. And yes, it is very complicated and a bit over powered at the moment witch is why they would need counter towers and such. Since it is complicated it would add much more strategy and wonder to the game allowing us to experiment with different attacks :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Julezwatts
Any feedback is appreciated, good or bad :D
I guess a little bump couldn't hurt anyone right?
Personally I am not really bothered about this. There are too many updates (even if they are just small trivial updates like new level to archer/wizard towers or a new troop level) for TH10's... The vast majority of the money spent (as in real money) on this game is by people working there way up to TH10.... Just make clan wars.... this will be something for everyone. Giving the TH10's a pile of new super troops wont help develop the game for the 95% of players (paying $ and non-paying $).
Yes i agree it is op now, and it wont be added in the near future. I also agree Clan Wars should come before everything else too :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Gambitz
This is really cool! nice pics btw ;) I would like to see this in action at some point, maybe halloween? :P
Yeah! This would be a nice halloween edition!Quote:
Originally Posted by MrOffTopicGuy
I think this is a VERY good idea i like who the troop will be disabled while mutated which will make it not as overpowered.I honestly think this can work this will cause some diversity between people's troops 😎
I think this is a great idea
This has to be the most genius idea ever but for the P.E.K.K.A. I think a better name then P.E.K.K.A girl is U.L.T.R.A
Quote:
Originally Posted by Boblo
Indeed this is a very brilliant idea :) but the "what ifs" are the gems for the Scientists. Not all clashers are capable of investing money on their bases. The balance between chiefs will be dis organized. but as for me this is a very brilliant idea. having two options for mutations is a most of a catch. Some ideas are awesome like the Ice Dragon. maybe it will turn out to be Dragon level 5. kudos!
Thanks for the feedback!Quote:
Originally Posted by Archers
Thanks!Quote:
Originally Posted by Footballstaski
Wow, great idea!Quote:
Originally Posted by BenNg
Thanks! But yes, scientists can be achieved withour gems but it would require more gems for more of em :DQuote:
Originally Posted by hydcudilla17
I love this idea, just what the game needs to be even better, I have a few add-on's though: 1) Could towers be resistant to certain elemental or other special mutations? 2) Could towers have mutations when reached max level, like elemental attacks, double/triple shot, etc 3) and finally, when/if these mutants are turned back to the original state of lvl1, could the price of upgrade be cut in half, or does it stay the same?
1)Yes, depending on what towers and tower upgrades are thrown at us in the future :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Robotechwac
2)Yeah. I will be adding towers, spells, walls, traps sometime in the future.
3)No, when you are th10 or 9 with maxed troops then it will be easy to go back up but maybe the time can be
Almost 100 votes to yes :D
This is an awesome idea. Allows us to really raid bases in our own particular style.
What TH level would it be unlocked at though?
Most likely when you max that certain troopQuote:
Originally Posted by ShortHairyFatMan
Lol i have high hopes for this to happen to the game but i doubt supercell will acually call one of the mutations "big daddy golem" or "valk husband" the first is not fitting with the game and the second is... Well creepy.
Lol i agree! They are all just examples haha, most wont even go in with the stats they have nowQuote:
Originally Posted by BenNg
This will be great! I think this should definitely be put in the game. It just seemed to get a little too complicated with the mad scientist and the huts and everything. I think just the next lvl of lab should be good for mutations or have lower troops require a lower lvl lab (cuz im not far enough for a lvl 9 lab). But over all this is a good idea just needs to be simplified a bit cuz clash has always been about the simplicity of playing the game. But I think the game designers will do that and keep it in the clash style 👍👍👍
I like the idea but agree with the comments about not having it permanent. You should be able to choose between what unit u want, the mutated or the normal, or a mix of them. It is an easy way for supercell to almost triple the diversity of units they have available.
Well the reason that it is so complicated is so that the strategy of attacking would be completely changed and this way people could try SOOO many more strategies than we would have used to useQuote:
Originally Posted by Sj11
There would be, the mad scientist lab allows you to do thisQuote:
Originally Posted by 14mapr99
UPDATE! I am now working on a new version of this idea, so stay tuned :D
I absolutely LOVE this thread!!!! One question: would this replace the lab? Or would it be a serperate building?
I had quite a few ideas similar to this in my head...
Since they are very close to the ideas in this thread, I thought I would voice them here
Firstly, the mutations idea. It is very sound and nice, offering many paths, but it doesn't leave too much creativity in the hands of the player.
So my idea was, to have a building called "the equipment shop"
Specific equipment would boost troop stats in a customizable way.
FYI, when I say min size and max size, that is just a marker. If your troop reaches the min size, any extra negative size adjustments will not reduce its size further, and vice versa.
For example, barbs
(min size=1, max size=2)
You can buy equipment for gold, to make their abilities suit your own needs
Sword:
Crystal Sword: +dps, +hp
Broadsword: +dps, - attack speed, - movement speed
Hammer: +dps, -- movement speed, splash dmg, +1 size
Dagger: +30% attack dodge rate
Shield:
Clan Symbol Shield: adds hp based on clan lvl <- (another idea of mine that is not needed in this thread)
Leigionnaire Shield: ++hp, ingores 10% dmg taken, - movement speed, +1 size
Buckler: +hp, + movement speed
Extra Sword: give barb two of the same sword, x1.5 dps, ¾ hp
Armor:
Rogue's cloak: + movement speed, -hp
Pigskin: +hp
Polished Armor: ++hp, +1 size
Wizards:
(min size=2, max size=6)
Mustache: (well we just have to do this one don't we)
Goatee: +dps, - attack rate
Long and Beardy: ++dps, -- attack rate, - movement speed
French: +dps, ++ attack speed
Cloak:
Fancy Cloak: +dps
High Mage Cloak: ++dps, +1 size
Shielded Cloak: +hp
Magic:
Fireball: +dps
Iceball: 30% chance at freeze
Lightning: single target, but will jump to nearest target for 70% dmg up to 5 times
Earthquake: +splash radius, only attacks ground
Hand:
None: -1 size
Wodden Staff: +dps
Engraved Staff: +++dps, +1 size
Cursed staff: Selfdestruct on death
Giants:
(min size=3, max size=8)
Armor:
Rags: -1 size
Nemean Lion Cloak: ½ chance of ignoring dmg taken, +1 size
Great Armor: ++hp
Train: (wearing a train engine, why not) like a bull, fast but moves in 1 direction, +dps, +1 size
Paladin Armor: +hp, heal over time, +1 size
Ice Block: (wearing an ice block….) +hp, - movement speed
Hand:
None: -1 size
Club: +dps
Iron Fist: ++ dps, - movement speed
Paladin Sword: +dps, heal over time, +1 size
Genes:
Troll: + movement speed, +hp, +dps, +2 size
Ogre: - movement speed, + hp
Frost Giant: - movement speed, +++hp, +3 size
Hog Rider:
(min size=3, max size=8)
Mount:
Pig: -1 size
Hog: +hp
Boar: +hp, + movement speed, +1 size
Elephant: +3 size, ++hp, ++dps, splash in front
Goat: -2 size, - hp
Hand:
Magnet: favorite target=loot
Big hammer: +dps, - movement speed
Small hammer: -1 size
Armor:
None: -1 size
Painted Bullseye: -hp, ++ movement speed
Light Steel Armor: +hp, - movement speed
Heavy steel armor: ++hp, -- movment speed
Decorated armor: +hp, +dps, +1 size
Dragon:
(min size 15, max size 25)
Armor:
None: -2 size
Steel Armor: +hp
Crystal Armor: ++hp, +dps, +1 size
Claws:
Serrated: +dps
Metal-Shod: ++dps, +1 size
Blunt: -1 size
Teeth:
Serrated: +dps
Metal-Shod: ++dps, +1 size
Blunt: -1 size
Wings:
Large: + movement speed
Normal: +hp
Small: -2 size
Breath:
Fire: +dps
Ice: 30% chance to freeze opponents
Magma: ++dps, +1 size
Acid: +dps, + attack speed
Minion:
(min size=1, max size=3)
Skin:
Thick: +hp, - movement speed
Reflective: ½ chance at dodge, +movement speed, +1 size
Streamlined: ++movement speed
Spitball:
Dark Elixir Hose: +dps
Dark Elixir bolt: (pukes out a bolt of dark elixir) ++dps, + attack speed, +1 size
Target:
Loot: +1 size
Defenses: +1 size
None: -1 size
Body Build:
Skinny: -1 size, + movement speed
Tubby: +1 size, + hp
Normal: +dps
Healer:
(min size=10, max size=15)
Spell:
Minor Heal: +heal
Major Heal: ++heal, +1 size
Minor Rage: +rage
Major Rage: ++rage, +1 size
Minor Jump: +jump
Major Jump: +jump, +dodge rate, +1 size
Minor Rageheal: +heal, +rage, +2 size
Hand:
Angel Sword: Adds attack, + spell, +1 size
Staff: ++ spell, +1 size
None: -2 size
Crystal Ball: +spell
Clothing:
Tuxedo: (I couldn't help myself) -2 size
Normal:-1 size, +hp
Ballgown: +hp, +spell
Balloon:
(min size=3, max size=8)
Pilot:
Skeleton: -1 size
Pig: +dps
Goblin: + movement speed
Balloon Type:
Blimp: +3 size, +++hp, +dps, - movement speed
Normal: -1 size
Multiballoon: (imagine a lot of kiddy balloons [saying happy birthday] tied together) ++hp, ++movement speed, +1 size
Bomb Type:
Nuke: +2 size, +++dps, - attack speed
Stun Grenade: 30% chance to stun
Concussive bomb: bigger splash
Archer:
(min size=1, max size=2)
Bow:
Normal: -1 size
Recurve: +dps, + movement speed, - range
Longbow: +dps, - movment speed, + rage
Elite: ++dps, +hp, +1 size
Shadow Bow: 30% dodge rate
Cloak:
Shadow cloak: 30% dodge rate
Royalty Cloak: - movement speed, +hp
Marksman cloak: +dps
Arrow:
Serrated: +dps, extra 1% of max hp bleed per second for 8 seconds, +1 size
Flaming: +dps, x1.5 vs defenses
Multishot: attack 2 targets at once if possible, +1 size
Goblin:
(min size=1, max size=2)
Feet:
Winged shoes: +2 size, 10% chance of jumping over a wall, -- hp
Fleet Shoes: ++ movement speed
Mocassins: 30% dodge chance
None: -1 size
Hand:
Magnet: +10% dps vs resources
None: -1 size
Grabber Claw: +dps
Chainsaw: ++ dps, - movement speed
Electromagnet: +5 range, +2 size
Eyes:
UV Spectrum: avoid traps, -- movement speed
X-Ray: finds safest route to loot, - movement speed
None: -1 size
Pekka:
(min size=21, max size=28)
Armor:
Steel: +hp
Crystal: ++hp, +1 size
Diamond: +++ hp, +2 size
Hand:
4 hands, 4 swords: x1.5 dps, +2 size
Electric blades: Splash dmg, +2 size
Normal:-3 size
Wall Breakers:
(min size-1, max size=3)
Bomb:
Big Splash: ...big splash, +1 size
Concentrated power: single wall target, x2 power
Acid Bomb: After suicide, causes 3% of max hp dmg to wall for 7 seconds
Helmet:
Crash Dummy Helmet: Skeleton survives blowup, continutes as a witch skeleton
Iron Shod Helm: ++hp, - movement speed
Valkyrie:
(min size=10, max size=15)
Hand:
Bigger Axe: +dps, - movement speed
Normal Axe: -1 size
Small Axe: - dps, + movement speed
Hammer: ++ dps, - movement speed, +1 size
Broadsword: ++dps, +2 size
Feet:
Winged shoes: +2 size, 10% chance of jumping over a wall, -- hp
Fleet Shoes: ++ movement speed
Mocassins: 30% dodge chance
None: -1 size
Armor:
Normal: -1 size
Leather: +hp, + movement speed
Aura: hp regen, +hp, +2 size, + movement speed
Imperial: +++hp, +4 size, - movement speed
Target:
Loot: +1 size
Defenses: +1 size
None: -1 size
Golem:
(min size=25, max size=32)
Element:
Fire: 3% of max hp dmg per second for 8m seconds
Ice: 30% chance of freeze splash
Earth: x1.5 dps
Golemites:
Normal: -1 size
+1 Golemite: all golemites have 90% hp
+2 golemites: all golemites have 70% hp
Crystal Heart: (Sort of like a special ability center)
Normal: +hp
Cursed: -hp, ++dps
Sparking: + movement speed, +dps, +1 size
Ember: +++movement speed, +2 size
Witch:
(min size=10, max size=15)
Troop:
Skeletons: -1 size
Hog Skeletons: skeletons that can leap over walls, - summoning time
Dragons: summons 2 skeletal dragons, +3 size, -hp, -- summoning time
Staff:
None: -1 size
Wodden Staff: +dps
Engraved Staff: +++dps, +1 size
Cursed staff: Selfdestruct on death
Physchentrancing Staff: Troops selfdestruct on death, +1 size, + summoning time
Cloak:
Fancy Cloak: +dps
High Mage Cloak: ++dps, +1 size
Shielded Cloak: +hp
Cowled Cloak: + summoning time, +1 size
Sorry All my creative juices have run dry now :P
I am sure you all could some up with stuff as well though.
But just so you understand how this would help, here is an example, using barbs.
Option 1
Crystal Sword
2nd Sword
Pigskin
-This result is a powerful attack barb. He doesn’t have too much health, but has an extra powerful attack. He is quite fast, and could avoid mortar attacks.
Option 2
Dagger
Buckler
Rogue’s Cloak
-This results in a fast moving barb, with not too much health, but has a chance of dodging attacks. He has a mediocre attack, but makes up for it with his resistance to die.
Option 3
Hammer
Legionnaire Shield
Polished Armor
-This results in a slower moving barb. He attacks slowly, with a slow powerful splash attack, but can soak tons of dmg (maybe like 150). He takes up 2 capacity.
This is just the start. More options could give tons of ways to form a troop to your needs. And I happened to demonstrate with barbs. Imaging the fun you oculd have with more unique troops!
My last Idea was a hero making facility, the “colosseum”. In here, you can train heros for their specific troop. You can modify them using the mutations and combination method. They would be about twice as strong as their normal troop, with added perks. They would have a 0 min regen time, and return to you after battle
For example, you have a bunch of “wizard heroes”. You select one to lead your wizards. The first wizard you drop on the battlefield will be the hero, who can buff the other wizards around it when they are dropped. The hero drop would consume one of your troops, so if you have 50 archers, in reality you would have 1 archer hero and 49 archers.
BUYING the equipment costs gold. Once bought, in the lab, troops have to be trained with the equipment for elixir. If unsuccessful, then troop goes backwards 1 lvl. (reupgrading the troop will only cost 1/5 price). If successful, then tada, troop stats boosted.
How is this similar to mutations? it is simply an extension. The mutations idea was that a troop get a fork in its metaphorical road of upgrades. What this does is ad more side roads. Basically taking mutations to the next level (no pun intended).
For the heroes though, they shouldn't be as customizable. You should be able to upgrade them through the mutations method only, otherwise they could get too powerful.
The balloon aready cause some damage on the buildings under it. And i love the examples and idea, but you should be able to go back to the original and start over mutation. But it should cost more to start over the mutations.Quote:
Balloon
Option 1: Blimp- Drops a wall breaker every 10 seconds
Looks like a blimp
Option 2: Armoured Balloon- Increases HP and when the ballon is destroyed it falls and causes some damage on the buildings under it
Why did you bump this?
Whats the problem? it's not like he bumped a spam thread or anything, this is a pretty good idea.Quote:
Originally Posted by UltraDragonMaster
This is a good idea. It adds a lot of new troops and would keep SC working for a while. Chillax ultradragon it's a good thread, it's better than the horrible threads that you always say "hi and welcome to the forums. This idea has been ruled and it sucks. Goodbye." Stats or percent increases for a couple of them are needed. Great idea though.
This is awesome!
What do you figure you would upgrade these troops with? I was kinda thinking about the word "Mutation". It means to differ from the path of normality. So that got me thinking, what is abnormal of elixir (normal resource for normal troops)? Dark elixir, what if you could upgrade normal elixir troops with dark elixir, and upgrade dark elixir troops with normal elixir? And when these upgraded troops are in the barracks, it would cost both of the types of elixir to make. Example: Mutated Giant would cost 5000 (just an example) elixir + 50 dark elixir. How about that?
I kindda agree with this that way it wont be overpowered because if you could just bring them out normally it would be way to over powered so there should be a way to make it worth it plus this idea should go with the next (after clan wars) update because it would go well with a new townhall levelQuote:
Originally Posted by TurtleBandits
This is a really old thread, that's why he aked. Plus, this isnt really a good idea. This game does a good job of making you feel like you never missed out on anything. Having to pick between two things would ruin that, especially when it would be a ♥♥♥♥♥-and-a-half to switch if you dont like your first choice. Same thing for all the other ideas that have to do with different upgrade paths. There's a 50% chance that you will be disappointed and that shouldn't happen in this game.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nmills
You do realise i wasn't the one who bumped this or the one who made this thread, i dont think the guy who made this comes on the forums anymore so there is little point criticising the suggestion. (And i didnt say the idea was realy good, i said it was pretty good as it isn't a ruled out or stupid thread) it looks like a lot of thought has gone in to it and it has recieved a lot of positive responses so bumping it is hardaly a huge issue, With all the people posting ruled out ideas and bumping their own threads, even if someone bumping a decent thread was a crime its hardily the worst one.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bigeez