That TH11 you have on your side isn't helping you out any. Your clan will search for another clan that either does the same thing, or matches that TH11 to something you don't want it matched against.Quote:
Originally Posted by BaseAlpha11
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That TH11 you have on your side isn't helping you out any. Your clan will search for another clan that either does the same thing, or matches that TH11 to something you don't want it matched against.Quote:
Originally Posted by BaseAlpha11
Sorry but if that is the worst you have seen, then maybe you've had a long string of unusually favourable matches. Both clans have a th11 offence attack, the enemy has one extra th10 and 2 th9s - but you've not provided any detail on how big theirs or yours are, so we don't know troops, heros and defences to compare (for all we know their 9s are just babies with very small heros and you have have max 9s across from a rushed 10). What you have may be more like some casual clan's regular unpleasant experience of hitting an engineered clan. It superficially looks a tough match based on just th levels, but you haven't provided anywhere near enough detail to say it's a mismatch (particularly detail on your 9s vs theirs and their 10).Quote:
Originally Posted by BaseAlpha11
I'd suggest dropping that engineered th11 of yours and adding another 9 or 7, unless you instead want to go the route of become more heavily engineered.
Horrible logic. It shouldn't matter what you upgrade or don't upgrade, you should get fair wars regardless. The people who made the bad matchmaker are in SuperCell. You are shifting the blame to players where it doesn't belong. It is not the players job to manicure their clans every time someone in SuperCell decides to change a line of code. It is SuperCell's job to provide far wars for EVERYONE. Regardless of what their roster is like. A mismatch is a mismatch in all cases. I don't care if their lineup was made to benefit the previous version of the matchmaker or not. The fix is not to punish anyone for their clan roster, the fix is to find a clan that has 40%-60% chance to win in the war as the enemy.Quote:
Originally Posted by MossackFonseca
This is what the situation is:
Imagine a dictator that decides he will beat everyone who dresses in red. Now some people keep dressing in red, others start wearing blue. The dictator sends out the police and they beat up people in red for years. Then the dictator decides it's time to beat up everyone who is wearing blue instead. Now those people only have blue clothes in their closets and no money to buy new clothes. Suddenly all the people in red start saying: "Hey, you are wearing blue, you deserve what you get.". Let's keep the blame where it belongs, shall we?
Loz, co leader of dauntless, #9RLUGJ20Quote:
Originally Posted by Denton
Who created the latest matchmaking algorythm?
I bet it was some mathematical genius who always wanted to do something like this, doing the perfect matching fastest matches achieved, in the history of the game, perfect balancing matching top of one clan against the bottom of the other then balancing all the way to the middle. Or at least that's how it seems.
Has this person ever played the game?
NO WAY, its IMPOSSIBLE to think that anyone producing such an algorythm giving the matches it does can be seen as fair and decent. The wars we have one, both after the update and from a long time before, have been because we have been organised, we all turn up to use boh attacks, decent tactics to get the best from a stronger army. And where our opponents have missing players.I can't remember how long ago it was that we had a fair match or us as the stronger.
Our latest match? They are massively strong at the top and pathetic at the bottom.
Well theirs is <2> TH11s, strong defences, one with maxedEVERYTHING for attack, the other just a couple of axed, GW is max.
Us? Just <1> TH11 strong troops and defences!
The full match,
Us V Them
TH11 v TH11
TH10 v TH11
TH10 v TH10
TH10 v TH10
TH9 v TH10
those are the ones that matter. So the higher scores are balanced by the lower ones.
TH9 v TH8 (they dont have any 9s)
TH9 v TH7
TH8 v TH7
TH7 v TH6
TH7 v TH5
Their bottom half needn't bother attacking. Their top 5 can clear us totally. They would have a strong TH10 attaking an average TH7
Every match has been like this
Just a few more will have me giving up the game and from sheer anger at the feeling I had been cheated by SC, they would have STOLEN my time and money. I would be avoiding SC, any game they produce and I would tell my friends to do the same.
BUT I would much prefer they got the game right. I would so much prefer to wait longer for a good match. An hour to wait would be nothing compared to the hours I invest in trying to win war, and the weeks I have to wait for just about every upgrade!
Come on SuperCell, get your finger out and get some end users involved in playing the game. NOT just those top few players all with maxed Th11s, but the ones who are still growing! The average Town Halls, the ones who are trying to grow. The ones who understand the top few playes in a clans are the ones who win or lose a war, no matter how good those below them are!
Thanks for reading it all. Apologies for bad spilling and gremmar wot I writ! I'm amazed at myself not swearing AT ALL in this
I disagree with this. Engineered Accts are created because people know the MM doesn't handle them well. The sole purpose is to create mismatches in the engineered clans favor. I do believe that fact invalidates engis complaints of bad matches. This is nothing more than a case of 2 clans trying the same strategy to out maneuver the other before prep day. Only 1 can be successful per war.Quote:
Originally Posted by dorsan
The main point is supercell should provide users with a working matchmaker, not one that favours upgrade paths to a gamebreaking extent as it does now, thats the crux of the matter. Asking players to self regulate to aubitrary playstyles doesnt really seam sensible. This is on supercell, pressure should be on them, we should be united asking for a sensible matchmaker.Quote:
Originally Posted by Clark11308
Its not about the matchmaker not handling some accounts well, that doesnt explain that warden weighing nothing and the eagle weighing too much, the matchmaker is partly designed to encourage farming and gemming (as it should be), it just gives a game destroying advantage, rather than a moderate and sensible one which would be sustainable.
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Originally Posted by Tomville
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I agree and as an engineer, I will never complain no matter how bad the matchup because it is on me to develop my bases and roster...Quote:
Originally Posted by Clark11308
I agree with the general premise of your post - SC owes us a functioning MM that provides fair wars (based on realistic WW) to the broader masses - but I will never accept the fact that engineers (including me) get to complain when our approach backfires...Quote:
Originally Posted by Vikingchief
yes I agree Its hypocritical to live large off the matchmaker when times are good, and then cry when the tables are turned, If you were not complaining before the change, you cant complain now about fair wars.Quote:
Originally Posted by Denton
HOWEVER this fact should never take focus away from the fact the supercell should given us a viable matchmaker, so you need to chose the response when engineers complain, Iether to point out their hypocrisy OR focus on our common desire to have a better matchmaker that supercell should deliver. I suppose you can do both but It splits focus.
I once came to the forums complaining of a bad matchup... it was pointed out to me that with 'buried' TH11s and Mid-depth TH10s, we were in fact engineers....
I now agree with that assessment... and hence to OP, you come here whining about a bad matchup with your pocket TH11.. SUCK IT UP.. you, as others have said, have been 'out engineered'.. good luck in war!