Town Visitors Question

I've just started playing Hay Day and have my Town open. Is there any advantage to fulfilling the three-building visitor or can I trash them? Do they give better rewards or am I wasting my time and resources doing them?

I've upgraded all my buildings to six slots and am working on reducing the time for each. I have finished getting the B&B to 40% time reduction and as I await to get to Rep Level 15 so I can upgrade my B&B, I'd love to hear which one you'd upgrade next, the Coins or the Experience/Reputation portion.

And, which should do for the Personal Train, increase visitors or reduce time?

Thanks for your input.

LovinHayDay

I almost always send away all 2 and 3 stop visitors. They do not give any better gifts than the 1 stop visitors. My rationale is that I send away all 2-3 stop visitors, and pick up the 1 stop visitors from neighbors. Similarly, all the 2 and 3 stop visitors I send away are then transformed into 1 stop visitors for my hood mates to pick up, instead of serving their 2-3 stop visitors, which they send out for me!

upgrade wise, i did 1) 6 spots in all buildings, 2) max time reduction in b&b, 3) max time reduction in spa, 4) upgrade coins in b&B, spa, gift shop. the primary reason i focused on those 3 is that they do not require BEM and SEM like some of the other buildings. i still can't max coins on the highest upgraded buildings, so i've done a mix between the 3. i've also done a few random upgrades to the others, mostly coins.

many people would probably advocate exp/rep over coins, and many will say that coins are eventually useless because you'll have so many. well, i'm lvl 91 and that's still not true, and on the flip side, after lvl 100 exp is pretty pointless too since there are no new buildings / products / etc.

as for train, i concentrated on upgrading slots first, but again it was a bit of a hybrid approach. once i got to maybe 6 slots (i don't remember) i started working on time too. i made this a priority to upgrade, as it in part helps with my strategy of only serving the 1 stop visitors, since i can have such a high throughput of pickups from hood mates.

Great news to hear that I can send all them away and know that I haven't missed out on any monumental prizes. LOL I've upgraded mine to 33 visitors and if I do all the 2/3 visitors, I'm busy for hours and hours. Done with that idea. Thank you.

I'll take your advice on the upgrading. I just couldn't use my resources to upgrade the Grocery and saved them for my Barn. Glad you validated that idea for me, as well. LOL

I see your point on coins because I still need them as I only have three lobsters in the pool and only three ducks in the saloon, so I need my coins for a little while longer and it would help me collect more.

Since I'm on Level 51, are you saying that there's not much more for me to do after the next 50 levels but maintain my farm? I don't like to peek ahead to see what coming so I don't know how many more machines or crops/animals are left. I saw the cute 5th anniversary video and started playing that day, so I've only been playing for two months, so in two months I should be finished??? Yikes, that's not good.

That also answers my Personal Train question as I don't have a huge hood base so I should decrease my time first so I can visit my hood more times in between the dreaded 2/3 visitors from the Eggspress Train that comes barreling in. I've upgraded my Personal Train to 7 and there's only one or two that ever have that many visitors I can pick up.

Thank you for your time and thoughts, they are much appreciated.

if you're level 51, suffice it to say there is a LOT more you're going to need to work toward. for a while still, you're going to be getting new machines and / or products every level. the machines become VERY expensive at later levels, such as the tea stand i just spent 750,000 coins for. that wiped me out and i couldn't buy the 700,000 coin taco stand i'm even further behind on! at level 91 i'm still a few machines behind and need coin (but i do shop a lot, and like trucks).

keep in mind that the exp required for each subsequent level is exponentially higher, so no, it is not a linear relationship in that if you've made it half way in 2 months, you'll hit 100 in another 2 months. earlier levels are quite a bit easier, and become more challenging going forward.

from levels 100 - 150 you get diamonds every level and a field every other level. that's why i'm not building myself to max exp. many will also recommend to try to NOT level up too quickly, as you'll find yourself in a situation where you can't afford the new machines (like me!). that's why i picked coins over exp in town upgrades. you will need them from 51 to the foreseeable future.

agreed on the personal train - that's about when i chose to focus on time. i started to realize the capacity of 6 or 7 or whatever it was was about the type of pick ups i was seeing, and that thereby i'd get more throughput by decreasing time between trains. now mine is maxed and i get 10 every hour and a half.

Personally I took a hybrid approach with building upgrades. As there is little to no benefit in upgrading time on buildings which already serve quickly.

Stage 1
Upgrade all to max capacity

Stage 2
Reduce time for - Spa & Bed & Breakfast
Increase Coins for - Gift Shop & Grocery Store
Increase Rep/XP for - Cinema, Diner & Beach Café

Stage 2
Reduce time for - Cinema
Increase Coins for - Beach Café & Diner
Increase Rep/XP for - Gift Shop, Spa, Bed & Breakfast & Grocery Store

Stage 3
The last remaining for each shop (I'm not up to stage 3 yet)

As for personal train, as you have already noted - balance your upgrades based on the average townies that is usually available to pick up. If you rarely see 5 or more available, there is little to no value in upgrading to 6+; instead get those time reductions.

Wow, you've gotten it all worked out.

I'm somewhere in Stage 2 and B&B in Stage 3.

What criteria did you use to break up your different shops? Or did you chose them willy-nilly?

I'm sad that it came easy to upgrade my Town Hall to 33 because if I start sending 2/3 visitors away, I may not have many at my shops at any one time. I'll see how that goes and just send the 3's away at first. I need to finish this batch first since it would be a waste to send them away with two jobs done and get nothing for them.

Where does upgrading your Train Station come in? My current train capacity is 12, should I keep upgrading or give it a rest?

I'm not thrilled that things are going to get more expensive and that should slow me down to make this game last a bit longer. LOL

I just got the candy machine and it was already out of my price range. Level 52 doesn't have a machine, so I'm going to start saving now. The price tag of 750,000 seems a bit outrageous, like 10 times the lobster and duck upgrades. I hope I'm still looking forward to new stuff by then, if I last that long. LOL

I'm trying to save to get all the pets, but maybe I'll give that a rest so I don't level up too fast.

Diamonds go so fast in this game....especially since I feel I spend way too many by accident.

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Originally Posted by LovinHayDay

Wow, you've gotten it all worked out.

I'm somewhere in Stage 2 and B&B in Stage 3.

What criteria did you use to break up your different shops? Or did you chose them willy-nilly?

I'm sad that it came easy to upgrade my Town Hall to 33 because if I start sending 2/3 visitors away, I may not have many at my shops at any one time. I'll see how that goes and just send the 3's away at first. I need to finish this batch first since it would be a waste to send them away with two jobs done and get nothing for them.

Where does upgrading your Train Station come in? My current train capacity is 12, should I keep upgrading or give it a rest?

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I based that formula on my own gameplay.

I often have times where my B&B and Spa bottleneck (are full and more visitors are waiting for them) - so they needed time reductions. Occasionally the Cinema has a bottleneck too - so I upgraded time there in the next phase.

I priortised Rep/XP for the longer serve buildings. Because as you have probably already noticed, you get more rep on buildings that take longer to serve.

So I felt I got more gain by boosting the rep on those already high rep buildings.

Lastly there is the Grocery Store & Gift shop, they serve so quickly already so I didn't see the need to reduce time there, and as pointed out before quick serve = low rep. Therefore I decided to use those for a coin boost. Gift shop especially benefits from a coin boost as it can pay some serious coins for jewellery. You can get HUGE coins for Diamond Rings in there!

As for EGGspress train - it maxes out at 14 passengers.

All valid reasons and thank you for the explanation and I play the same way. I now have the B&B and Spa both by 40%, so I think I'll relax a bit since the rest aren't too bad for turnarounds.

Good observation in that you get more rep/XP and am excited about getting more from somewhere. LOL

I did not know about the EGGspress train, but good to know. The Tar Paint is fairly hard to find, so I might put them elsewhere for now.

Thanks all for taking the time and you've gotten me excited about my next 50 levels!!!

It's not about the destination, it's about the journey. Why should you send away any townie, except for the odd one that ask for crazy amounts of products?
For quick gifts? What gifts? Oh, the TEM's? The saws and axes? Oh, the ones you can get tons of by 10 minutes of wheating? Its not the lack of "end game" content that ruins the game immersion, it's the quest for instant gratification. Instead, just play the game and have fun. Tons of people play the game for years.
So, all of them have no idea what they are doing?
I am almost at level 50 and having a blast. I am sure, once at level 150, i will still harvest my crops, feed my livestock, load up my machines, wake up my pets, serve my townies and cuddle with my fishes..simply because i love it and it is fun. Level, gifts, coin, xp...yeah, whatever.

The town is my favorite! I serve everybody! And I love, love, love it!

I also started upgrading re: capacity. 6 each. The time on the B&B, Spa and Cinema. Coins on the others. Eventually I didn't need coins anymore so switched to XP.

I also focused on the Eggspress train to get more visitors. Sounds like you have the personal train situation worked out! Don't send away the two building townies if you don't get a lot from your neighbors. The only singles in the game are those from your hoodmate's farms.

The diner was the hardest for me since planks are my absolute most rare item! But I need to *finish* everything, so eventually I maxed that out on everything.

Level 172 and still playing strong! (Town is level 60)

Town is my favorite too. I had almost all buildings upgraded to maximum. I serve everybody especially at town 2*XP or coins event. And if I have time, I serve almost 80 townies daily. Lot of axes and saws and mining tools. And other tools, except mallets :D

I've never really understood the desire to release all 2 and 3 stop visitors without service. Maybe it's because I view each visitor as a source of xp and Rep points, with the added benefit of a drop at the end. Most Townie requests are very reasonable, with only a few crazy requests mixed in (usually those spa visitors wanting my bees wax). These are the townies that get kicked. If you keep the visitors moving through the town, there is always room to also accomodate the personal train visitors. To each their own, so many ways to enjoy the game.

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Originally Posted by illinirick

I've never really understood the desire to release all 2 and 3 stop visitors without service. Maybe it's because I view each visitor as a source of xp and Rep points, with the added benefit of a drop at the end. Most Townie requests are very reasonable, with only a few crazy requests mixed in (usually those spa visitors wanting my bees wax). These are the townies that get kicked. If you keep the visitors moving through the town, there is always room to also accomodate the personal train visitors. To each their own, so many ways to enjoy the game.

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I view the town visitors in much the same way. I try to serve as many as possible but yes the ones wanting lots of beeswax and large amounts of dairy get sent away.

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Originally Posted by shadyacre

if you're level 51, suffice it to say there is a LOT more you're going to need to work toward. for a while still, you're going to be getting new machines and / or products every level.

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I've read this occassionally but the hardest part about the late 40s and early 50s is to increase your lobster pool and duck saloon to max capacity while still buying the occassional new building. But regulary new building appear every second level up and with your 60s it's only every third level up. Giving you a ton of spare time and coins in between for decorating. Unless you're heavy into truck orders (and thus getting tons of experience) you'll earn a decent amount of coins from boats, fulfilling your townfolk desires and selling excess items in the RSS.

Upgrade wise i'd max capacity before reducing time on B&B and Spa and wouldn't bother with anything else beside that. I happily trade my other TEM for BEM and don't look back. Upgrading coins (pointless after a certain point in the game), experience (i'm in no hurry) or reputation (with a ceiling) seems pointless to me.

I started to send away townfolk with 3 tasks (unless they also like my zoo) in favor of getting more 1 task requests from a new and more active NH, with an upgraded train they just come in so fast it's hard to keep up otherwise at 10ish new people every few hours. I won't send away 2 task folks because i think you can't send 1 task folks back and forth unlimited. I might be mistaken here but i think you can only pick up 2 and 3 task folks for an additional 1 task at your friendly NH and they'll be gone afterwards no matter what. So sending away all "regular" customer is detrimental to your NH as a whole and selfish.

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Originally Posted by andrix

I've read this occassionally but the hardest part about the late 40s and early 50s is to increase your lobster pool and duck saloon to max capacity while still buying the occassional new building.

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I personally did not go beyond 4 lobsters and 3 ducks until I purchased all of my buildings.
A free Tom boost here and there from the derby can get you all the blankets, pillows, hats, and duck feathers you will need until you have all the buildings needed as long as you are thrifty with those items on boat and truck orders.

I never had a problem keeping up with lobster items with only 4 lobsters. I still use Tom for pillows and blankets.

Also, to chime in as well on the town serving, I would recommend finding what works for you and your schedule. A gift shop, grocery store, and beach cafe townie will obviously serve much quicker than a B&B, spa, and cinema townie. I personally do serve the 3 building townies, as long as they don't require both the B&B and Spa.

Well, I tried to send away the 3 building visitors and it broke my heart to do that, so that isn't for me. I only did it for one train and realized that I loved being so busy with them. I really like micromanaging their requests for their visits. Making sure that no visitor is idle for too long when I'm maxed out. I felt I was missing an important part of the game for me. However, I have decided to just be selective in which ones I send away, they have to ask for lots of the same item, no lobsters (for now) and I'm selective about which jam or juice (for now) visitors I will serve.

For my play, my need to upgrade everything and in an orderly fashion seems to be a priority. I also feel a need to get all the pets, so I'm thinking leveling up may be too important to me, too. I'm being very careful about which land expansion I do, regardless of the number of items required.

After the journey, I'll stop and smell the roses and then decorate, my farm has NO curb appeal. LOL

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Originally Posted by andrix

...I won't send away 2 task folks because i think you can't send 1 task folks back and forth unlimited. I might be mistaken here but i think you can only pick up 2 and 3 task folks for an additional 1 task at your friendly NH and they'll be gone afterwards no matter what. So sending away all "regular" customer is detrimental to your NH as a whole and selfish.

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I've read this several times and I still don't understand your point?

How is sending away your visitors selfish?

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Originally Posted by SmallChange

I've read this several times and I still don't understand your point? Sending away 2 or 3 stop visitors generates one single one stop visitor for someone in your NH, once they're served they 'go home'. If you fully serve them they go straight home. Your choice which to do. How is sending away your visitors selfish?

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Just want to clarify, if you fully serve a 2 or 3 stop visitor, they are available for pick up by your neighbors. They do not go straight home.

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Originally Posted by illinirick

Just want to clarify, if you fully serve a 2 or 3 stop visitor, they are available for pick up by your neighbors. They do not go straight home.

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Yes, that's right.

I can see how what I wrote reads otherwise, but I actually meant if 'they' serve them. Too much of a hurry, not enough coffee! I've deleted it to reduce confusion.

My post was really to say that I don't understand *Andrix* point about sending people away being 'selfish'.

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Originally Posted by illinirick

I've never really understood the desire to release all 2 and 3 stop visitors without service. Maybe it's because I view each visitor as a source of xp and Rep points, with the added benefit of a drop at the end. Most Townie requests are very reasonable, with only a few crazy requests mixed in (usually those spa visitors wanting my bees wax). These are the townies that get kicked. If you keep the visitors moving through the town, there is always room to also accomodate the personal train visitors. To each their own, so many ways to enjoy the game.

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another reason why i favor serving exclusively the 1 stop visitors that i did not hit upon is the fact that i stack / fully serve visitors for the derby tasks, and do not release them until i have a task. in this manner i can finish the train derby task in the minute it takes for me to release 23 of them.

i bolded the part of your comments, 'if you keep the visitors moving through the town' because you cannot easily do this if you are saving served visitors for the tasks. this is true for both the train task, and then even more importantly for the townie-specific task. unfortunately, they all stand together and it is sometimes impossible to release the ones that need another stop, or a specific townie - for instance try to release the lady while she is standing behind the strong man.

you can *try* to click on their hand when they wave, or the old man's cane, etc. but i find this is not a reliable means of selecting them and prone to error. if they implemented a better system - such as standing in 2 spots (fully served and needing another stop) or being able to select them via the town hall, then i might be more likely to serve the 2 stop visitors.

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Originally Posted by shadyacre

another reason why i favor serving exclusively the 1 stop visitors that i did not hit upon is the fact that i stack / fully serve visitors for the derby tasks, and do not release them until i have a task. in this manner i can finish the train derby task in the minute it takes for me to release 23 of them.

i bolded the part of your comments, 'if you keep the visitors moving through the town' because you cannot easily do this if you are saving served visitors for the tasks. this is true for both the train task, and then even more importantly for the townie-specific task. unfortunately, they all stand together and it is sometimes impossible to release the ones that need another stop, or a specific townie - for instance try to release the lady while she is standing behind the strong man.

you can *try* to click on their hand when they wave, or the old man's cane, etc. but i find this is not a reliable means of selecting them and prone to error. if they implemented a better system - such as standing in 2 spots (fully served and needing another stop) or being able to select them via the town hall, then i might be more likely to serve the 2 stop visitors.

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I get around this by serving them in the other one or two shops they've asked for, then when they only have one shop left, letting them roam around the town. I try to leave each 'character' with a different 'final' shop & I put all of each character in, in turn, so that generally they're grouped for selection.

Hope that makes sense.

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Originally Posted by andrix

I've read this occassionally but the hardest part about the late 40s and early 50s is to increase your lobster pool and duck saloon to max capacity while still buying the occassional new building.

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Originally Posted by Spartan1

I personally did not go beyond 4 lobsters and 3 ducks until I purchased all of my buildings.
A free Tom boost here and there from the derby can get you all the blankets, pillows, hats, and duck feathers you will need until you have all the buildings needed as long as you are thrifty with those items on boat and truck orders.

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i haven't gone beyond 3 lobsters and 2 ducks currently. my rationale for doing so is that those numbers pretty much exactly sync up with the throughput of the net maker versus the time it takes for the lobsters and ducks to be ready to be collected. i also use tom to help supplement my supply of the items noted - they come up pretty infrequently so a run of this or that tends to last a while.

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Originally Posted by SmallChange

I get around this by serving them in the other one or two shops they've asked for, then when they only have one shop left, letting them roam around the town. I try to leave each 'character' with a different 'final' shop & I put all of each character in, in turn, so that generally they're grouped for selection.

Hope that makes sense.

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I use this same method. When I need a particular townie for a task, I serve the 2-3-shop characters in the shops that will take the longest time first. Then let them run around until I actually take the task and send them to their last "quick stop" shop. I will keep collecting "extras" to see if I can get requests for shops that take less time. I will also let particular townies run around my town "collecting" them for neighbors who are planning on doing a townie task. That way, I can send them to the platform when I know that person is online and her PT is ready.

I try to always leave enough "free" space in my town to get the max (14) drop offs from the Eggspress.

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Originally Posted by SmallChange

My post was really to say that I don't understand *Andrix* point about sending people away being 'selfish'.

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(assuming that i understand the mechanics corretly!)
- to "generate" a 1 task visitor for your NH you'd need to first have a regular visitor (visiting your town via eggspress every 6 hours) with 2 or 3 tasks
- if you don't serve any regular visitor and only pick up 1 task generated visitors from your NH you don't give something back to your NH as a whole. Your NH can't pick up any of your regular visitors because you deny them any service.

All visitors who arrive via the eggspress train can be sent away and will regenerate as 1 shop visitors which your hoodies can pick up via the personal train. It does not matter whether you served them or not.

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Originally Posted by andrix

(assuming that i understand the mechanics corretly!)
- to "generate" a 1 task visitor for your NH you'd need to first have a regular visitor (visiting your town via eggspress every 6 hours) with 2 or 3 tasks
- if you don't serve any regular visitor and only pick up 1 task generated visitors from your NH you don't give something back to your NH as a whole. Your NH can't pick up any of your regular visitors because you deny them any service.

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OK. That answers it then, you're calling people selfish because you don't understand the mechanics.

That's why it's frequently mentioned to ask your NH to at least go to their towns to release their townies, even if they don't want to serve their townies.

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Originally Posted by Wussypuss

All visitors who arrive via the eggspress train can be sent away and will regenerate as 1 shop visitors which your hoodies can pick up via the personal train. It does not matter whether you served them or not.

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Originally Posted by SmallChange

OK. That answers it then, you're calling people selfish because you don't understand the mechanics.

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I'm glad i'm enlightened now, the mechanics aren't explained anywhere in the wiki pages or seem to be plain obvious, looking at the other responses over here. I didn't want to insult anyone in the first place, just looking forward to service more townies :)

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On the lobster/duck space: i prefer using Tom for jewelry (-> voucher) instead of blankets and pillows and i like the freedom to get a bulk of the items at once but at their cost it's of course no problem to delay the upgrades to a more convenient time if that pleases you. Of course if you already got all your pets this is no concern to you. Getting 5+ production (thus lining up with the time for lobster) is a tad to expensive in diamonds for my taste compared to regular building slot costs.