War MM & Cannon Cart changes - the FEEDBACK thread!

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Originally Posted by Slayer339

Reading all the posts above seem to support this. I suspect it's the new TH9, 10 & 11s seem to not fit those conditions, not the heavy 10s. Those of you complaining about heavy 10s matching 11s, are any of your TH10s or TH9s new? (any missing defenses)

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I've seen some of these, and no - there are extreme maxer clans with no base much below totally maxed (I mean barely a single upgrade missing, let alone entire guns) getting a large discrepancy in the number of TH10s and 11s.

And although there's a lot of people saying "get rid of every every engineered base and you'll get good matches" if you look at the details it doesn't always tell the same story. In some cases people meant they got rid of their last x.5. In others they got rid of some fully engineered base and now have only x.5s and claim they get good matches. I've seen cases where people say getting rid of every last x.5 got them a good match - but if you look at the details the match was against a clan with that did have x.5s - so how is that supposed to work? It's hardly evidence that x.5s have been separated from non-x.5 clans even though it was presented as such.

Simplistic approach. Can anyone see a problem with MM using offense ONLY as the determining factor? The game is completely based on attacking and not defending (although, obviously defenses do happen). People can upgrade their bases in whatever way they want, but if you have a strong offense you're going to be matched against someone else that has strong offense, so, you'd better have some defenses too. I'm struggling to think of ways this kind of system could be exploited. I doubt someone is going to max their defenses and keep all their offense low LOL.

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Originally Posted by xc3ss1v30n3

Simplistic approach. Can anyone see a problem with MM using offense ONLY as the determining factor? The game is completely based on attacking and not defending (although, obviously defenses do happen). People can upgrade their bases in whatever way they want, but if you have a strong offense you're going to be matched against someone else that has strong offense, so, you'd better have some defenses too. I'm struggling to think of ways this kind of system could be exploited. I doubt someone is going to max their defenses and keep all their offense low LOL.

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Yes, a TH8-10 clan would stick in 1 base with max TH11 defence and only barch, which would match as some very low base. It wouldn't even attack, and their other players would cover the extra target. Meanwhile the enemy can only possibly get 2* from it, and likely only 1*

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Originally Posted by OnyxDS

Yes, a TH8-10 clan would stick in 1 base with max TH11 defence and only barch, which would match as some very low base. It wouldn't even attack, and their other players would cover the extra target. Meanwhile the enemy can only possibly get 2* from it, and likely only 1*

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I guess the exact opposite of what happens now then. Oh well ):

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Originally Posted by JSpur5

If you want a fair match, drop the .5s and new town hall people from your roster. You might want to go back and read many of the previous posts in this thread.

Kind of hard to complain when you're engineering your roster as well with the th3's.

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It's easy to say to drop the .5s. Most of these .5s are players focused in war who tried to get a fair advantage in war (made public by SC) in detriment of farming and trophy pushing. Now (and all of a sudden) they are paired with heavily engineered bases. If you say these dedicated players should be out of war, when shall you tell them to come back to war? It takes time to build up defenses, particularly at th11

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Originally Posted by VicThorious

It's easy to say to drop the .5s. Most of these .5s are players focused in war who tried to get a fair advantage in war (made public by SC) in detriment of farming and trophy pushing. Now (and all of a sudden) they are paired with heavily engineered bases. If you say these dedicated players should be out of war, when shall you tell them to come back to war? It takes time to build up defenses, particularly at th11

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Take your time and build defenses.

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Originally Posted by VicThorious

It's easy to say to drop the .5s. Most of these .5s are players focused in war who tried to get a fair advantage in war (made public by SC) in detriment of farming and trophy pushing. Now (and all of a sudden) they are paired with heavily engineered bases. If you say these dedicated players should be out of war, when shall you tell them to come back to war? It takes time to build up defenses, particularly at th11

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Well, I am a th11. (Twisted #2LGYRU9C). I have all the defenses of th11 and the previous ones. I Also have some in my clan who are/were .5s. They are no longer in wars and understand they're ouy until they get xbows or infernoes or whatever they're missing. Because as you stated, they are DEDICATED to the game, none have complained and only want is best for the clan as a whole.

When you find the right people and explain the ins and outs of what is happening, they make the necessary changes. Sure it sucks but waiting 14 days on a defense is no different than those waiting 14 days for max bowlers. Time is relative.

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Originally Posted by junaidd123

Take your time and build defenses.

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Does it mean staying out of war? Of course not, most people are not keen to wait since they war full time. And I think this is the biggest problem as people need time to adapt.
My clan had 30 ppl playing last war, now there are only 20. Feel sorry for them. Big unexpected kick in their teeth

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Originally Posted by junaidd123

Take your time and build defenses.

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That guarantees you squat. We have all maxer bases with all defenses built and we still get bad match-ups against engineered clans.

New war:

30v30. Both clans heavily engineered.

Defense:
We: 109, 90, 90, 89, 86, 83, 81, 77, 73, 73, 71
They: 95, 94, 91,91, 91, 90, 87, 86, 86, 84, 83
Offense: We have 9 strong th11 attackers, they have 6. (12 -9 if I count weaker th11 attackers, too)

I'm not sure if I like this match. It's much easier for them to 3 star our 2-30 but our 1 is very strong and we have more attacks.