War MM & Cannon Cart changes - the FEEDBACK thread!

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Originally Posted by Bigtone2001

War started with their #28 getting 3* on both our 13 & 14, so we figured we were in for a hammering.
We got off to a good start with our 11s getting 2* on their top 11 first go (4 & 12 were 3*) so freed our 2nd attacks for lower 3*.
war result 71 (79.67) v 71 (79.07) to us.

Even with SC's broken MM we scraped the Win.

War #7 (search was under 20 mins) 30v30

Yest again, matched against engineers.
us
1-14 Th11
15-26 TH10
27-30 TH9

them
1-21 TH11
22 TH10
23 TH11 (34/35/16) Max Hound, Loon, Barbs
24-25 TH10
26 TH11(20/20/13) Max Bowlers, Hound, Loon
27-30 TH10


so 9 extra TH11s all with GW and all with varying Max troops. (Bowlers, Witches, Hound, Loon, Healer, Valks, Hogs, Giants etc)

yet again, a non engineered clan hits heavily engineered.


Surely SC seriously can't be classing a new TH as engineered.
If they expect a new TH to drop every defence before they can get an even war they are bonkers.
at th11 that'd be cannon, archer tower, wiz tower, xbow & eagle.
cant remember all the extras at TH10.

Simply give the TH a base rating so it's above a Max of the one below. Does the same thing, just allows people to upgrade as they can.
should be the easiest fix, it's 1 variable, but has the biggest impact.

currently they allow a TH11 to have Max warden and troops, but by not placing defences, give it the same weight as a TH9.

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How long have you been playing? You should know by now THEY ARE BONKERS!!!!!

Another war spin for us, maxer style clans, 1 hour 10 mins search, 13 th11 and 2 th10 matched 15 th11, the smallest of which has level 2 eagle, 2 level 4 infernos and 30/34/11... the only one of theirs lacking a max warden, and bigger than all our bottom 4. Did someone declare big 10s = huge 11s when we weren't looking?

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Originally Posted by JSpur5

How long have you been playing? You should know by now THEY ARE BONKERS!!!!!

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A mere 4.5 years, hence a near maxed account, a second which has just gone TH11. (Def was maxed at th10, except walls, heroes 30,35 when I went 11. Now at 31,39,10)

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Originally Posted by Tomville

Another war spin for us, maxer style clans, 1 hour 10 mins search, 13 th11 and 2 th10 matched 15 th11, the smallest of which has level 2 eagle, 2 level 4 infernos and 30/34/11... the only one of theirs lacking a max warden, and bigger than all our bottom 4. Did someone declare big 10s = huge 11s when we weren't looking?

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join the club,
us
14 TH11s
12 TH10s
4 TH9s

Them
24 TH11s
6 TH10s

posted their hero & troop advantage on previous page

thats 6 from 7 wars with new algorithm we've had matches like this.

instead of Match Making Algorithm, think they've created a Mis Match Algorithm.

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Originally Posted by Bigtone2001

join the club,
us
14 TH11s
12 TH10s
4 TH9s

Them
24 TH11s
6 TH10s

posted their hero & troop advantage on previous page

thats 6 from 7 wars with new algorithm we've had matches like this.

instead of Match Making Algorithm, think they've created a Mis Match Algorithm.

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I think it's more likely a side effect of putting more significance on offence, as it happens most with big hero 10s that seem to match big 11s with some king/queen neglect. Seems like when the warden isn't carrying a great weight and only 1-2 troops really need one level of upgrade for war, the offence gap between them closes too far. Previously the (too) heavy stress on defence weight meant where a big 10 did end up opposite an 11 it was either eagleless, a baby or pretty rushed (but again not level 2 eagle). Whereas now they are none of those things and seen in multiple lanes. About the only fix I can see is significantly more offence weight on the warden, mostly placed on the warden levels 5-20 rather than the initial warden placement.

Thanks for the club welcome, but I was already a member there, this has happened 6/6 of our matches since the upgrade.

5th war into new war algo and im just flat disgusted, we have no th11s in this war, they have 2 maxed at top vs our max 2 10s. This is not better, this is not even worth warring any longer sc, my fave part of the game is ending my love affair cuz i feel like im being cheated.

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Originally Posted by Tomville

I think it's more likely a side effect of putting more significance on offence, as it happens most with big hero 10s that seem to match big 11s with some king/queen neglect. Seems like when the warden isn't carrying a great weight and only 1-2 troops really need one level of upgrade for war, the offence gap between them closes too far. Previously the (too) heavy stress on defence weight meant where a big 10 did end up opposite an 11 it was either eagleless, a baby or pretty rushed (but again not level 2 eagle). Whereas now they are none of those things and seen in multiple lanes. About the only fix I can see is significantly more offence weight on the warden, mostly placed on the warden levels 5-20 rather than the initial warden placement.

Thanks for the club welcome, but I was already a member there, this has happened 6/6 of our matches since the upgrade.

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Probaby not only the GW having not enough weight, but also any th11 level offensive units weighted too close to th10 units

Just finished up a 10v10 war against a Chinese clan. Our breakdown 2/4/4. Their breakdown 8/0/2. Us = 4 warden hits. Them = 16 warden hits. Our #6, brand new th10 with no infernos and 30/30 heroes. Their #6, th11 with max heroes (including warden) but no eagle or infernos. Our th11s both have eagles. They only had 1 eagle. Three of their th11s had max heroes, and the rest had mid-range heroes. All their th11s had maxed lavas and/or bowlers. Most had max golems and valks. I'm just about done putting time and money into this game. I don't mind losing, but I would at least prefer a fair matchup. Can't say that I have seen any improvement in war matchmaking.

This war wasn't a good match for anyone.
We have one th10 and one 9.5 (both high level heroes). They have one th10 (th10 defenses, but no infernos) and one super 9.5 (a th11 with lvl 7 loons, lvl 4 lava, low level heroes and warder, but th9 defenses) at their top. The rest of the roster is very similar for both clans, except for one lopsided th10 with level 4 dragons and no queen at our bottom.
So our th10 attacks were more than enough to easily 3 star all their defenses and their th11 attack will probably 3 star our top bases too, so it will be probably a draw.
I guess that's one of the consequences of the new MM considering the "total weight" of the bases. We have much more defense, they have much more attack, but the MM thought we should be paired.
We hope to solve this problem in the near future dropping new deffenses at our 9.5. I just hope that with this added defensive weight we don't get mached against stronger th11 attacks with max heroes, once our "total weight" will be increased.

Don’t run a max th9 if your th10’s are down, they’ll mirror a th10 with 25/25 heroes and level 3 infernos.

.5 is now considered full engineering.

Running a single 8.5 will give you: a few low weight th10s and th11s. It doesn’t matter if you only have one 8.5, he just put you vs engineering. It doesn’t matter if he has level 10/5 heroes, now your top 5 will get 3 starred by dragons lol.