War MM & Cannon Cart changes - the FEEDBACK thread!

Actually you can engineer the BH...it's called building everything...but not upgrading everything. That lets you upgrade to the next BH level. So they are basically saying....they are 100% behind building offense max and keeping defenses as low as possible.

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Originally Posted by pb913

Actually you can engineer the BH...it's called building everything...but not upgrading everything. That lets you upgrade to the next BH level. So they are basically saying....they are 100% behind building offense max and keeping defenses as low as possible.

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But you are still required to build EVERYTHING...

But that doesn't matter if everything is L1...but your offense is max.

So why haven't they gone back to a minimum TH value for wars.......because it would hurt all their precious engineers and benefit maxers.

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Originally Posted by pb913

But that doesn't matter if everything is L1...but your offense is max.

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So if you have a 10v10 war with 2 th11s with EA and they have 1 with EA and 4 without, who do you think has the advantage there? It certainly isn't the clan with only 2 th11s.

I don't know what the solution is and I don't have many answers, just expressing my frustrations. Anything is better than what we currently have.

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Originally Posted by JSpur5

But you are still required to build EVERYTHING...

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I have seen engineered bases which has all defenses built and left at level 1.

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Originally Posted by osuchemnerd

When SC got rid of TH sniping, they basically said this is not the way we intended the game to be played. Then they changed it, which upset a ton of people. Then everyone moved on, and it was OK.

Clearly engineering is not the way SC intended the game to be played. If everyone in every clan engineered, then wars would suck because everyone would 3 star their opponents TH1-10 with their max TH11 troops.

SC has said in the past that I engineering is not they way they intended the game to be played (although not that directly), so why can't they do something to give players incentive to keep offense and defense balanced, since that is they way they intended the game to be played? I mean if you were at risk of matching up against a max TH11 with your minimax, what would you do? You would probably drop your defenses at least.

I guess I don't understand the duplicity in saying they want to allow all play styles but then suggest that they don't agree with engineering.

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yes but do you remember the backlash that they got when they decided to openly go against th sniping?

I think that even if supercell is against engineering and will take serious actions to kill it, they'll never say it like they did when they removed th sniping. I think that they consider what they did when they removed th sniping a mistake and that's why now they're PR-talking that they don't want to invalidate any playstyle: to avoid backlash

but even if they're not PR-talking, even if they really don't want to invalidate engineering, I think that that's because, again, of what happened the last time they decided to remove an aspect of the game. because it's truth that the playerbase was seriously hurt when they removed th sniping, specially because of how they did it. and although this game is still successful, I think it's undeniable that it was a lot more popular before december 2015

in short, I think the reason why supercell is handling engineering the way they're doing is to avoid another december update

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Originally Posted by strandwolfza

yes but do you remember the backlash that they got when they decided to openly go against th sniping?

I think that even if supercell is against engineering and will take serious actions to kill it, they'll never say it like they did when they removed th sniping. I think that they consider what they did when they removed th sniping a mistake and that's why now they're PR-talking that they don't want to invalidate any playstyle: to avoid backlash

but even if they're not PR-talking, even if they really don't want to invalidate engineering, I think that that's because, again, of what happened the last time they decided to remove an aspect of the game. because it's truth that the playerbase was seriously hurt when they removed th sniping, specially because of how they did it. and although this game is still successful, I think it's undeniable that it was a lot more popular before december 2015

in short, I think the reason why supercell is handling engineering the way they're doing is to avoid another december update

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In complete agreement.

We're a completely un-engineered clan and have run into our first match against a clan with some engineering. Not posting to complain or anything, but more of an FYI.

I'll list the bases in a US/them format. If more information is needed, let me know.

1) TH11 MAX EXCEPT A FEW LAB UPGRADES / max th11
2) TH11 MAX EXCEPT LAB AND WALLS / max th11 except 3 spells
3) TH11 - MAX DEFENSES - BK25/AQ27/GW20 - LVL 10 WALLS - FEW MAX TROOPS / max th11 with 3 low level troops
4) TH11 - RUSHED - 11 D BUILT WITH TH10 D BK20/AQ22/GW16 / th11 - max d - lvl10 walls - max royals
5) TH10 - BALANCED - BK30/AQ30 / th11 - max 11 d - 10 d all others - max royals - some max troops
6) TH10 - DEFENSE HEAVY - MAX D - LOWER O - BK21/AQ22 / th 10.5 bk18/aq30/gw18
7) TH10 - BALANCED - BK22/AQ23 / th9.5 bk36/aq30
8) TH10 - BALANCED - BK24/AQ25 / th9.11? 9 defenses 11 offense - bk24/aq31/gw12
9) TH10 - RUSHED - 10 D BUILT WITH 9 D - BK20/AQ17 / th9.11? 9/10 lvl defenses 11 offense - bk30/aq/30/gw20
10) TH10 - NEW - NEW D BUILT - BK20/AQ22 / th9.5 low level ad - bk13/aq11
11) TH10 - NEW - NEW D BUILT - BK20/AQ27 / th9 - balanced bk21/aq25
12) TH9 - MAX EXCEPT HEROES - BK25/AQ25 / th9 - balanced bk19/aq29
13) TH9 - NEW - RUSHED BK- LVL2 XBOWS WITH 8 DEFENSES - BK12/AQ6 / th9 - balanced bk18/aq18
14) TH9 - NEW - RUSHED BK- LVL2/3 XBOWS 8/9 DEFENSES - BK10/AQ8 / th9.5 bk14/aq12
15) TH9 - NEW - XBOWS BUILT - RUSHED BK - BK8/AQ1 / th8 - max except walls.

I'd say we have a slight advantage at the bottom. But that advantage seems to be netting the a higher number of high level attacks than we have. All in all, it's not the worst I've seen, but the scales are definitely tipped.

Our clan have an engineer account, a TH10 with max troops and low on defenses. When we search with this account we get another engineered clan. When we remove it from war we get a proper clan with no engineers.
We've already done 4 searches and the pattern repeated.
So good job supercell at least you make engineers play against their own kind.

Just done searching war and believe me its getting better.Thank you SC.