Bolts... more scarce than platinum ore...

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Originally Posted by Janilee

All the bolts are at my farm. They breed there, like coathangers. ;)

Bolts and panels are always abundant at my farm. Planks and nails are always scarce.

It's the duct tape and screws that interesting. Usually they are fairly plentiful, but every once in awhile they get scarce. Usually when I need them.

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My 2 that are fairly plentiful is duct tape and panels, but as you said, every once in awhile they get scarce. Seems to me if by chance you got lucky and you get the amount you need for the next expansion on one of your really scarce ones(for me planks and screws), and you don't yet have the amount for expansion on these fairly plentiful ones, that is when they become scarce.

I'll try and test this part of the theory out. I seem to have found a bunch of screws lately in neighbor shops and the DD, so I will see if I can trade off some of my nails and bolts(cause they just keep a coming no matter what)for the remaining screws. My panels are doing fairly well, but I will get those scarce screws to the max before the panels and see what happens to those panels.

Hello I need help with the increase in tonnage of my tower and barn. Who can help with duct tape, boards and nails respond, please. In response to help than I can!)))

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Originally Posted by Poliwanaya

Hello I need help with the increase in tonnage of my tower and barn. Who can help with duct tape, boards and nails respond, please. In response to help than I can!)))

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Post your request in the trade thread:

http://forum.supercell.net/showthrea...e-%28part-5%29

You will need a Game Center ID or a Facebook account to trade.

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Originally Posted by Goobster1963

It seems to be for me that the most of what I have in my barn is the stuff I get without fail. I need the duct tape so bad, but can I get some? No.

I've decided to try an experiment regarding this. I am going to try to get the tape I need to upgrade but I'm NOT going to upgrade. I am going to upgrade each time I have enough to upgrade x 2.

Normally as soon as I can upgrade, I immediately do . Near the end when I have only a few duct tape needed, they start coming fairly fast for me. Then I'm back to desperately needing duct tape again once I hit the upgrade button. This time I'm going to wait and see if the duct tape starts rolling in when I have 50+ in my barn already. Right now I need 50 of each item to upgrade. I have 48 of the planks and bolts and 2 duct tape. I'm going to hold on to everything from today onward until I have 100 of each before I upgrade.

Since I'm bored of the game, this gives me a new challenge to try to keep playing. I'm always out of room in my barn but hey, who isn't? That's a Hay Day farmers life. So it's not like it's a surprise. I try to have 15 of every product in my barn but I'll cut that down to 10 to accommodate the extra barn expansion items. Granted, getting another 48 duct tape is going to take some time but once I get it, I'm going to see if this theory has any merit.

If the theory of SC programming withholding that of which you desperately need holds true, then the duct tape will not become a desperate situation. Since I WILL have enough to upgrade - BUT - I won't and the items remain in my barn and my expansion items numbers will be relatively high (compared to my measly 2 out of 50 duct tape ratio here at the moment) the programming will not recognize this as an item that I'm desperate to have.

An example of this for me is the axes and saws. Currently I have 107 axes and 105 saws. All I get are axes and saws when I'm harvesting (used to be deeds). Anyway, I have no TNT, dynamite or shovels, I NEVER get any when harvesting - none, nada, zip. But I used Tom for the first time and set my alarm for every two hours - that was tough - and acquired 106 shovels through him for that 24 hour period. Now, when I am harvesting, shovels are coming up continuously. I believe it's because they are no longer a hot commodity I'm struggling to get. I have plenty. BUT, I never get dynamite or TNT. Hmmm. If I had no axes or saws (I sell them in batches of 5 when I have more than the trees/bushes to use them on) I doubt I would get any when I am harvesting. This gave me the idea that there could be some merit to this all.

Does this make any sense to anyone? Or am I finally losing my reason from playing Hay Day too long?

As soon as I get 50 duct tape to upgrade, I'm going to post again and then I am going to start to record the results of the duct tape caper and see if they start rolling in. At least I feel motivated to play a little again. It's been really tough picking up my iphone and getting my animals fed and tended to. I've just lost a little bit of interest.

Wish me luck!

Goobster1963
Level 51 (still!!!!!)

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Hi Everyone,

I'm quoting my own post as a reminder of my theory. I think I'm on to something here.

The duct tape was so hard to acquire and I would get (if I was lucky) one a week. Bolts and planks came in abundance but the illusive duct tape would not come. Since I needed 50 of each to upgrade, I knew that it would take FOREVER to get enough duct tape to expand.

A wonderfully kind neighbor helped me with enough duct tape to upgrade my barn to begin my experiment. As per the above post, I wanted to see if my theory had any merit so I didn't upgrade my barn right away, I left it and got rid of most of my products stored in my barn so that I had room to collect expansion materials.

After I had the 50 duct tape (got on 20 Jan 14) and did not need to struggle for the expansion, I began to get duct tape. It wasn't a slow process either. They started popping out of the field, in mystery boxes, harvesting from animals, all sorts of things. I had acquired 14 in one day alone! It now has been 4 days since my neighbor (you know who you are and I love ya!) helped me with the duct tape and I've already got 40 more for the next expansion.

In conclusion, I believe that my theory has merit. We all know we get multitudes of some items and they just keep coming. But that one illusive one is the frustrating one. We upgrade as soon as we get that last one - bringing us back to the poverty of that one item. We're back to square one, struggling for bolts, duct tape, whatever.

My intention now is to always be one upgrade ahead. Yes, it does take up barn space, there's no denying that. But when one is frustrated, as a lot of us are, because we can't get these items, it's not as much fun to play this amazing game.

We all play the way it suits us best and I respect that for every one of us. To channel the boredom I was feeling into something a little more constructive was a whole lot of fun. You might need help at first, like I did with my wonderful neighbor, but I think that there is something to this experiment and I'm going to keep going and see if this trend continues. I'll update all of you again, if you like, on how it's going.

Wish me luck!

Goobster1963
Level 62

Interesting.

I am usually short of nails and planks, and drowning in bolts and panels. Last week I made some massive trades, ending up with tons of nails and planks - enough to upgrade twice. But since I didn't have enough of the other items, I only upgraded once.

And I really did start getting more planks and nails. I started to wonder if my farm had changed, as I've heard sometimes happens, and I had new scarce items and new common ones.

After awhile, though, the old tendencies returned, and I ended up short of planks and nails again. Even though I had plenty of nails, panels eventually overtook them, even though I didn't upgrade.

I do think Hay Day has a tendency to give you more of what you have a lot of, but IME it doesn't overcome the natural tendency of your farm. Which for mine is toward bolts and panels.

I'll be interested to see how your experiment goes.

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Originally Posted by Gamof3

My 2 that are fairly plentiful is duct tape and panels, but as you said, every once in awhile they get scarce. Seems to me if by chance you got lucky and you get the amount you need for the next expansion on one of your really scarce ones(for me planks and screws), and you don't yet have the amount for expansion on these fairly plentiful ones, that is when they become scarce.

I'll try and test this part of the theory out. I seem to have found a bunch of screws lately in neighbor shops and the DD, so I will see if I can trade off some of my nails and bolts(cause they just keep a coming no matter what)for the remaining screws. My panels are doing fairly well, but I will get those scarce screws to the max before the panels and see what happens to those panels.

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Quoting my own post to as I did test this out. So I got over the max amount of screws needed for my upgrade by doing a few trades. I then stopped getting panels and they became my scarce item. Nails still kept coming because my farm is a nail farm.

Barn my farm is a bolt farm, middle of the road is duct tape and scarce is planks. I happened to have a good run on duct tape at the beginning of the week and a neighbor of mine does not get any, so I gave her what she needed and in return she gave me planks. I have another neighbor who does not get bolts and traded some bolts with him for planks. I ended up over the number of planks, I was right at my number for tapes and shorted myself on bolts. Didn't matter as my farm is a bolt farm and they kept coming and I upgraded a short time later.

So I agree with what both of you guys have discovered and have added my own discovery on the middle of the road items. If your short on something it does help to get it to the max and then go for awhile or if you can until you have enough for 2 upgrades. If though you get that scarce item maxed before your middle of the road, then you will have issues finding that middle of the road item. But whatever your farm is, be it a bolt farm or tape or plank, those will still come regardless of what you do. Once you get your scarce item back under max for upgrade, it then becomes scarce again. So far my farm has not changed in what I get a lot of and what I get very little of either.

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Originally Posted by Janilee

Interesting.

I am usually short of nails and planks, and drowning in bolts and panels. Last week I made some massive trades, ending up with tons of nails and planks - enough to upgrade twice. But since I didn't have enough of the other items, I only upgraded once.

And I really did start getting more planks and nails. I started to wonder if my farm had changed, as I've heard sometimes happens, and I had new scarce items and new common ones.

After awhile, though, the old tendencies returned, and I ended up short of planks and nails again. Even though I had plenty of nails, panels eventually overtook them, even though I didn't upgrade.

I do think Hay Day has a tendency to give you more of what you have a lot of, but IME it doesn't overcome the natural tendency of your farm. Which for mine is toward bolts and panels.

I'll be interested to see how your experiment goes.

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I agree, just for me it is the duct tape and screws that keep coming and hardly ever any bolts. I have slot every other item except for bolts, might get one, but the back to duct tape.

If the shoppers want organic food why do they ask for saws and other non food products? Ask me for carrots and corn and other plantings. . I have plenty of them., Get with the food program for the food event!

I believe your quote is right.. I agree... I will try to keep one step ahead.. Good luck!

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Originally Posted by Goobster1963

Hi Everyone,

I'm quoting my own post as a reminder of my theory. I think I'm on to something here.

The duct tape was so hard to acquire and I would get (if I was lucky) one a week. Bolts and planks came in abundance but the illusive duct tape would not come. Since I needed 50 of each to upgrade, I knew that it would take FOREVER to get enough duct tape to expand.

A wonderfully kind neighbor helped me with enough duct tape to upgrade my barn to begin my experiment. As per the above post, I wanted to see if my theory had any merit so I didn't upgrade my barn right away, I left it and got rid of most of my products stored in my barn so that I had room to collect expansion materials.

After I had the 50 duct tape (got on 20 Jan 14) and did not need to struggle for the expansion, I began to get duct tape. It wasn't a slow process either. They started popping out of the field, in mystery boxes, harvesting from animals, all sorts of things. I had acquired 14 in one day alone! It now has been 4 days since my neighbor (you know who you are and I love ya!) helped me with the duct tape and I've already got 40 more for the next expansion.

In conclusion, I believe that my theory has merit. We all know we get multitudes of some items and they just keep coming. But that one illusive one is the frustrating one. We upgrade as soon as we get that last one - bringing us back to the poverty of that one item. We're back to square one, struggling for bolts, duct tape, whatever.

My intention now is to always be one upgrade ahead. Yes, it does take up barn space, there's no denying that. But when one is frustrated, as a lot of us are, because we can't get these items, it's not as much fun to play this amazing game.

We all play the way it suits us best and I respect that for every one of us. To channel the boredom I was feeling into something a little more constructive was a whole lot of fun. You might need help at first, like I did with my wonderful neighbor, but I think that there is something to this experiment and I'm going to keep going and see if this trend continues. I'll update all of you again, if you like, on how it's going.

Wish me luck!

Goobster1963
Level 62

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I have noticed that if you let the item you get a lot of accumulate, you really start getting a lot of it. Once the number of panels or bolts in my farm gets over 100 or so, they're all I get. I have to either sell off a bunch or make a trade, or it won't stop.