Nice job on the match making update Supercell

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Originally Posted by InflatedCoC

The difficulty of getting the stars is also even in both reality and statistical probability. You say you are an average attacker, so as a TH9.5, I would assume you could 2 star, 60% a max TH10 or have a crack at a 3 star (15% chance). On the flip side, your TH9.5 base gives the 15/15 TH10 with a few max war troops available the exact same and possible chance of securing a safe 2 star, 60%, or the possibility of three starring your base with a 15% chance.

I am not sure how this is unfair?

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Because your statistics are out of whack. 9.5 bases can be 3 stared easily by any th10 with 15/15. In fact I have a 5/5 account that can 3 star 9.5s with much higher than 15% chance. And I am not even that good of an attacker. However I do have much much much lower % chance to 3 star a th10 with infernos down even if not all of their defenses are maxed yet.

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Originally Posted by dorsan

The only person disagreeing with that is checkmate. He claims they don't engineer and win solely on skill. Everyone else is claiming the exact same thing you are.


So why not make regular accounts then if they shine so much?


Then why did they never accepted any offer of a friendly challenge? Or post any proof for their claims? Can you post any proof of this claim of yours?


Got it. So as long as both clans have the same number of players it's a fair match. 10 maxed th10s against 10 th9.5s is a completely fair match by your definition, because both players have the chance to attack for 3 stars or defend for the win. The difficulty of getting those stars is irrelevant as long as there is a statistical possibility of getting the 3 stars, it's fair.

The only problem is that you are the only person who would claim that a matchup like that is fair. However it is not because we don't know what fair is. It is because your definition of fair is out of whack.

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The only definition of fair that matters is from SC. I happen to have a pretty good idea of what SC think is fair. That is why I think wars are mostly fair, while you can continue your crusade against the mm, like you did for years now and will continue doing so for a foreseeable future. Lets just agree to disagree.

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Originally Posted by CheckMate99

The only definition of fair that matters is from SC. I happen to have a pretty good idea of what SC think is fair. That is why I think wars are mostly fair, while you can continue your crusade against the mm, like you did for years now and will continue doing so for a foreseeable future. Lets just agree to disagree.

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Did you talk with them?

If you are referring to knowledge of the matchmaker and then extrapolate knowledge of intent from that, then you're far off from the mark. Thinking that you can get to intent by analyzing how a faulty system works is just silly.

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Originally Posted by 2222

And if you had even matches, say both clans given the exact same troops and defenses, you would win what % due to your skill? 95%?

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I don't know what %. However, due to the huge # of casual clans out there, I think a decently skilled and organized clan can easily achieve 90% win rate.

Stopping the #6ayMartians Win Streak 101
Step 1 be rich(So you trophy pushers from dubai listen up lol)
Step 2 Make 25-30 Accounts
Step 3 join/spy on a clan they recently beat, get some details on what that clan used to match into #6ayMartians
Step 4 gem your 25-30 accs to be like the clan you spied on and que when #6ayMartians que
Step 5 on prep day, gem troops and heroes on half or most bases if you're bad at atking and 3 star every base
...draw...profit

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Originally Posted by BoBoTheGoat

Just to clarify, this falls into the I would rather not look silly option.

You don't even have to reveal war size or composition. Just show your top 3 or 5 THs compared to your opponents. If anything you say is true, no reasonable person would have an issue doing that.

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Showing only the top 3 or 5 bases is insufficient to judge a match up. A whole comparison from top to bottom is required. Just so you know, we frequently get outmatched at the top but still manage to win with mid and bottom bases.

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Originally Posted by SSeleulc

I respected 6aymartians even after seeing how they've engineered their clan. However, I've grown tired of hearing about them from their members/fanboys like chickmate popping up claiming they are the best clan/attackers and that the streak is due to their skill not their engineering. Until they prove their claimed ability with some high level th11 whoopings, I'm not considering them anywhere near the best. It takes about 3 months to build an account that can consistently 3 star th8's with fairly low skilled attacks.

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We dont deal with max th11. That domain is reserved to cwl clans and other modders. Most of our members do have max th11 as main account, they just war in other clans.

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Originally Posted by CheckMate99

Showing only the top 3 or 5 bases is insufficient to judge a match up. A whole comparison from top to bottom is required. Just so you know, we frequently get outmatched at the top but still manage to win with mid and bottom bases.

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It's more than enough to know if your full of it or not.

Still waiting for those screenshots man. One really easy way to put any truth to anything you say. It's not suprising, some people are taught to lie throughout their life.

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Originally Posted by Rambletamble

Clanwar subforum lurker here, neither for or against anyones certain playstyle or position but prefer solid concrete reliable evidence. Your winstreak is a impressive streak and i for what it is worth recognize the achievemant. However, since the forums seems to be the only real arena where your martians can achieve any recognition why at this stage continue to not let the masses see your clan in action. Seems to me to hide behind a shield of martian mindpower is just sorta.....deflating. Stand proud and stand tall of what you have done, whether people approve is immaterial but i for one would like to see your clan and its accounts war in a live stream....be good entertainment

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Not going to happen. Not going to show our secret recipe. There is a huge line ups of hunters out there waiting on us doing something stupid like that.

It is extraordinary to see someone benefiting to such a ridiculous extent from a form of exploitation, being unable to acknowledge it honestly... in a game.

Kind of like when nations gets rich off the back of slavery, and claim their success is well deserved. The success cannot be refuted, but everyone who knows even a little about the history understands that at the heart of that success, is exploitation.

Just admit it mate, it's not that hard.

The fact that you hide behind the obscurity of your war log and cast doubt over those who dare judge is just plain embarrassing.

I might indeed be wrong. It's possible I have no idea. I have no issues with people who win through an application of skill. But your clan cannot sustain its success on skill alone. The entire Clash community knows it. Deep down, you know it.