Permanent ban option

I'm sure others have encountered this issue: former members that continuously try to rejoin the clan, even though they've been kicked out and their join requests get rejected. This is a hassle because it means that a separate blacklist must be maintained outside of CoC in order to keep track of people that have earned permanent bans. Why not add a permanent ban option in the game? I would suggest limiting this power to the leader (to prevent it from being abused). This would also prevent people from changing their screen name name and rejoining.

It would be a headache for support.

General would be filled with posts about "My little brother permanent banned my best friend, please help" or "My dog permanent banned all the cats, please help".

This could be a really useful feature for responsible players, if implemented properly. But there are a lot of irresponsible players, and this feature would not be worth the trouble

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Originally Posted by EverettReef

It would be a headache for support.

General would be filled with posts about "My little brother permanent banned my best friend, please help" or "My dog permanent banned all the cats, please help".

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lol. I hadn't thought of that. I suppose you could get around this if there were a "control panel" for blacklisted players, and the leader could add and remove players from the list. I would like to have a feature like this, but obviously this adds a little more complexity to the UI.

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Originally Posted by EverettReef

It would be a headache for support.

General would be filled with posts about "My little brother permanent banned my best friend, please help" or "My dog permanent banned all the cats, please help".

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Ah the proverbial little brother. He strikes again!

We should call him Newman. Then when he does stuff we can all grinace and go "Newman!!!" (Seifeld reference)

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Originally Posted by EverettReef

It would be a headache for support.

General would be filled with posts about "My little brother permanent banned my best friend, please help" or "My dog permanent banned all the cats, please help".

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This doesn't seem like a downside?
Just a badly run clan...

You're saying we can't have a good useful feature because some clans and people in those clans are stupid.
Really?

I'd love this

This desired request is easily met with the clan blacklist. The leaders maintain a list of players who may not join. Leaders may add, review, and remove names&tags on the list at will. Invitations to join don't work if the recipient is on the blacklist.

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Originally Posted by George1971

This desired request is easily met with the clan blacklist. The leaders maintain a list of players who may not join. Leaders may add, review, and remove names&tags on the list at will. Invitations to join don't work if the recipient is on the blacklist.

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Hey George: We do this in our clan, but it's a hassle to maintain a list in a separate application outside of Clash and to check every new join request against the list. An in-game blacklist makes a lot of sense and would be quite easy to implement. This feature would barely take up any resources.

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Originally Posted by HoneyBadgersCoC

Hey George: We do this in our clan, but it's a hassle to maintain a list in a separate application outside of Clash and to check every new join request against the list. An in-game blacklist makes a lot of sense and would be quite easy to implement. This feature would barely take up any resources.

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I always find it interesting how people think things are easy to implement and would barely take up resources.

Please then, if it's so easy, mock up some UI ideas. Make sure it's intuitive and document the functionality of each component. Write pseudo-code for how it will behave. Analyze the database structure that will be required - look at how much space it will take on the server and how much bandwidth it will use. Should probably also include a cost-benefit analysis that compares Supercell's engineers' time spent on this feature vs other features vs the benefit it will bring to the game and community as a whole.

Since Supercell hasn't implemented it yet, then one or more of these things are probable:
1) It's actually not easy to implement
2) It would take up too many resources
3) It's not worth implementing (engineers' time should be spent on other things that are more worth it)
4) They haven't taken the time to analyze how easy it would be and how few resources are required. They need someone like you to do the analysis I've detailed above to prove this feature is in fact so easy to implement and a good use of their time.

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Originally Posted by JohnnyPC

I always find it interesting how people think things are easy to implement and would barely take up resources.

Please then, if it's so easy, mock up some UI ideas. Make sure it's intuitive and document the functionality of each component. Write pseudo-code for how it will behave. Analyze the database structure that will be required - look at how much space it will take on the server and how much bandwidth it will use. Should probably also include a cost-benefit analysis that compares Supercell's engineers' time spent on this feature vs other features vs the benefit it will bring to the game and community as a whole.

Since Supercell hasn't implemented it yet, then one or more of these things are probable:
1) It's actually not easy to implement
2) It would take up too many resources
3) It's not worth implementing (engineers' time should be spent on other things that are more worth it)
4) They haven't taken the time to analyze how easy it would be and how few resources are required. They need someone like you to do the analysis I've detailed above to prove this feature is in fact so easy to implement and a good use of their time.

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There is NOTHING difficult about this technically.
1 Store a list of players against a clan who CAN'T be in it (they can store a list of players who re in a clan, so this can't be too hard)
2 Display a list of players (they can already display lists)

I like tbe idea but those fools you wish to have permantely banned from rejoining your clan would just make new bases then rejoin we had a guy with several bases And he kept reappearing thankfully he gave up after a few months

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Originally Posted by JohnnyPC

I always find it interesting how people think things are easy to implement and would barely take up resources.

Please then, if it's so easy, mock up some UI ideas. Make sure it's intuitive and document the functionality of each component. Write pseudo-code for how it will behave. Analyze the database structure that will be required - look at how much space it will take on the server and how much bandwidth it will use. Should probably also include a cost-benefit analysis that compares Supercell's engineers' time spent on this feature vs other features vs the benefit it will bring to the game and community as a whole.

Since Supercell hasn't implemented it yet, then one or more of these things are probable:
1) It's actually not easy to implement
2) It would take up too many resources
3) It's not worth implementing (engineers' time should be spent on other things that are more worth it)
4) They haven't taken the time to analyze how easy it would be and how few resources are required. They need someone like you to do the analysis I've detailed above to prove this feature is in fact so easy to implement and a good use of their time.

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Lots of snark. Not sure why.

This is a trivial problem. Each clan has a list of blacklisted tags. Sort this list whenever a new entry is added. Compare player id tags from new join requests against the sorted blacklist. If the player id tag is on the blacklist, end loop and return a standard rejection message: "You have been blacklisted from this clan". They already do this in a limited fashion: People that get kicked from a clan have a cooldown timer that prevents the from rejoining the clan for a specific period of time.

Do you really think that a basic sort and compare is too much for Supercell to implement? OK. I guess you have less faith in their programmers abilities to cut and paste code than I do...

how bout you use this thing called a pen and paper

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Originally Posted by policenine

how bout you use this thing called a pen and paper

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A large motivation for the blacklist is to prevent stalkers abusive or rude requests from appearing in the clan chat

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Originally Posted by PhilISuppose

This doesn't seem like a downside?
Just a badly run clan...

You're saying we can't have a good useful feature because some clans and people in those clans are stupid.
Really?

I'd love this

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Agree with this. So many issues on forums seem to get written off because a select few would/could abuse it. Let them do so if it means the large majority of us enjoy it and find the quality of life change positive.

if you are disturbed with those clan members which have severely violated you clan rules or do some thing else. all you need to do is virtual Permanent ban.
how this system works.
I do not agree with your this feature because the way The reporting feature got misused, similarly people will misuse it to troll other players
this is How I managed:
My clan INDThallasemics, since last year, has faced lots of players who just want to troll and disturb the environment of other clans.
thrice the situation happened that in my clan Some players attempted to kick my all players. so we just kicked these players with a message that they should never join again here as for us they have been perma. banned
other two situations, two of my friends started Fighting with each other and badly swore each other in the clan chat because player A kicked Player D which is my friend. so Player B started defending him and kicking his second Id. in that case player B can inform me but he did what he wants on his own. so I Immediately demoted both and they left. and declared that they should never join again.
mentioned above the two situations about 5 players. I noted their name and Tag and other necessary info in a paper and issued a notice to all my clan mates through social group that following these 5 players are the part of our updated blacklist(permanent ban list)
if any of these joined again, Immediately kicked out by one of our members.
after sometimes these players getting annoyed and will stop joining your clan.
being a Responsible Leader of my clan you have to put several efforts rather than asking supercell to add a feature which is definitely in the field of misuse.
EverretReef what do you think?

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Originally Posted by PhilISuppose

There is NOTHING difficult about this technically.
1 Store a list of players against a clan who CAN'T be in it (they can store a list of players who re in a clan, so this can't be too hard)
2 Display a list of players (they can already display lists)

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Very Right! Your Idea Can be Considered Simply:)

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Originally Posted by SamirMishra

if you are disturbed with those clan members which have severely violated you clan rules or do some thing else. all you need to do is virtual Permanent ban.
how this system works.
I do not agree with your this feature because the way The reporting feature got misused, similarly people will misuse it to troll other players
this is How I managed:
My clan INDThallasemics, since last year, has faced lots of players who just want to troll and disturb the environment of other clans.
thrice the situation happened that in my clan Some players attempted to kick my all players. so we just kicked these players with a message that they should never join again here as for us they have been perma. banned
other two situations, two of my friends started Fighting with each other and badly swore each other in the clan chat because player A kicked Player D which is my friend. so Player B started defending him and kicking his second Id. in that case player B can inform me but he did what he wants on his own. so I Immediately demoted both and they left. and declared that they should never join again.
mentioned above the two situations about 5 players. I noted their name and Tag and other necessary info in a paper and issued a notice to all my clan mates through social group that following these 5 players are the part of our updated blacklist(permanent ban list)
if any of these joined again, Immediately kicked out by one of our members.
after sometimes these players getting annoyed and will stop joining your clan.
being a Responsible Leader of my clan you have to put several efforts rather than asking supercell to add a feature which is definitely in the field of misuse.
EverretReef what do you think?

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You're right in saying that we don't need this feature and that the same thing can be achieved through other means. But this sub forum isn't about things we need, it's about things we want. And a quality of life improvement, while not something I have great use for, is something that could certainly be helpful to a lot of people. So besides being possible through TPAs and pen and paper, do you have a reason why this shouldn't be added?

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Originally Posted by Tiler

You're right in saying that we don't need this feature and that the same thing can be achieved through other means. But this sub forum isn't about things we need, it's about things we want. And a quality of life improvement, while not something I have great use for, is something that could certainly be helpful to a lot of people. So besides being possible through TPAs and pen and paper, do you have a reason why this shouldn't be added?

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This should not be added Because Lots of Reasons. One of the Main Reason is The Misuse.
There are lots of Aother minor disadvantages of it But I need some time to Mention it :rolleyes:

this forum is about everything! If Some One Wish something could be added. We are here to make it our want with a Possible good discussion to Improve it. If it's not, Then we will Take The Issue and Consider It Through a Period of time and By discussion try to Find The Best Road of Improvement

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Originally Posted by SamirMishra

This should not be added Because Lots of Reasons. One of the Main Reason is The Misuse.
There are lots of Aother minor disadvantages of it But I need some time to Mention it :rolleyes:

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Pretty tough to discuss if you're not willing to take the time to mention your arguments.

As far as misuse goes, I acknowledge that as a fair point. But on the other hand, any clan that would misuse the blacklist feature already misuses existing features. If I'm "unfairly" banned from a clan, I'm not going to want to join that clan again anyway

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Originally Posted by Tiler

Pretty tough to discuss if you're not willing to take the time to mention your arguments.

As far as misuse goes, I acknowledge that as a fair point. But on the other hand, any clan that would misuse the blacklist feature already misuses existing features. If I'm "unfairly" banned from a clan, I'm not going to want to join that clan again anyway

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Definitely, people will get Frustrated with such kind of Trolling.

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Originally Posted by SamirMishra

if you are disturbed with those clan members which have severely violated you clan rules or do some thing else. all you need to do is virtual Permanent ban.
how this system works.
I do not agree with your this feature because the way The reporting feature got misused, similarly people will misuse it to troll other players
this is How I managed:
My clan INDThallasemics, since last year, has faced lots of players who just want to troll and disturb the environment of other clans.
thrice the situation happened that in my clan Some players attempted to kick my all players. so we just kicked these players with a message that they should never join again here as for us they have been perma. banned
other two situations, two of my friends started Fighting with each other and badly swore each other in the clan chat because player A kicked Player D which is my friend. so Player B started defending him and kicking his second Id. in that case player B can inform me but he did what he wants on his own. so I Immediately demoted both and they left. and declared that they should never join again.
mentioned above the two situations about 5 players. I noted their name and Tag and other necessary info in a paper and issued a notice to all my clan mates through social group that following these 5 players are the part of our updated blacklist(permanent ban list)
if any of these joined again, Immediately kicked out by one of our members.
after sometimes these players getting annoyed and will stop joining your clan.
being a Responsible Leader of my clan you have to put several efforts rather than asking supercell to add a feature which is definitely in the field of misuse.
EverretReef what do you think?

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So you admit you use exactly the system this thread is about, you just use paper
Making a list of banned players (your clan sounds super dysfunctional by the way!)

But you don't want it added in game as a feature?

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Originally Posted by PhilISuppose

So you admit you use exactly the system this thread is about, you just use paper
Making a list of banned players (your clan sounds super dysfunctional by the way!)

But you don't want it added in game as a feature?

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What do you mean by superdysfunctional?

This will help to responsible persons ot the clan members