Darian tell us,is supercell working on a way to fix Legend League clouds?

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Originally Posted by Darian[Supercell]

I'm not really sure what you're expecting me to say on this apart from what's already been said. I know it sounds like a broken record but it is something the team is looking into and has been.

Reducing shield times may not necessarily be the right answer. Having shorter shield times means players will just hop online more often or for longer stretches of time to avoid being attacked while trying to find more bases to attack. And that is the underlying issue - it requires people to be offline with no shields. When there is a high number of people online trying to find a base to attack then it leaves not enough bases to attack.

Removing shields altogether for that league might look like a solution but would have similar consequences.

Going H2H is an option we're possibly looking at as it proved it could work as it does on the Builder Base. It takes advantage of the number of people online instead of the number of people offline. Given that we just implemented the H2H system, we do need to collect more data on if it's a viable solution first and try and predict how many people it will impact, and how it will impact the end-game leagues.

Yes there are solutions out there. Each one of them has pros and cons; some with more cons than pros, but some are potentially viable. The goal is to find the one that has the least number of negative consequences for the players. The idea people spend more gems while clouding is a silly one. We would prefer if players were able to enjoy the game when they want and not have to wait in a virtual cloud-queue to do so.

If you're looking for me to say "we have a solution planned for X date" then I don't have that answer for you yet.

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Darian, it doesn't seem that supercell wants to fix clouds in legends though. Don't get me wrong, I have never been there. But I have read countless complaints of clashers in legends posting screenshots of themselves being attacked by titan players.

How can titan players find legend bases quickly (even if it doesn't happen often - it still happens) while legends players are looking for hours?

Again, forgive me if I am wrong on this, as I am not a legend player, but this is what legends players are reporting here. But with this info, does it not seem that some of the clouding problem is beceause supercell intentionally wants it?

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Originally Posted by Darian[Supercell]

I'm not really sure what you're expecting me to say on this apart from what's already been said. I know it sounds like a broken record but it is something the team is looking into and has been.

Reducing shield times may not necessarily be the right answer. Having shorter shield times means players will just hop online more often or for longer stretches of time to avoid being attacked while trying to find more bases to attack. And that is the underlying issue - it requires people to be offline with no shields. When there is a high number of people online trying to find a base to attack then it leaves not enough bases to attack.

Removing shields altogether for that league might look like a solution but would have similar consequences.

Going H2H is an option we're possibly looking at as it proved it could work as it does on the Builder Base. It takes advantage of the number of people online instead of the number of people offline. Given that we just implemented the H2H system, we do need to collect more data on if it's a viable solution first and try and predict how many people it will impact, and how it will impact the end-game leagues.

Yes there are solutions out there. Each one of them has pros and cons; some with more cons than pros, but some are potentially viable. The goal is to find the one that has the least number of negative consequences for the players. The idea people spend more gems while clouding is a silly one. We would prefer if players were able to enjoy the game when they want and not have to wait in a virtual cloud-queue to do so.

If you're looking for me to say "we have a solution planned for X date" then I don't have that answer for you yet.

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What is h2h??

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Originally Posted by SmileTillYouDie

What is h2h??

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Head 2 Head, PvP, mono et mono, 1vs1, hamster takes all!

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Originally Posted by WormShoes

Head 2 Head, PvP, mono et mono, 1vs1, hamster takes all!

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Bloody hamsters always win.....

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Originally Posted by WormShoes

Head 2 Head, PvP, mono et mono, 1vs1, hamster takes all!

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Oh ok thanks
I also believe that PvsP is the only solution to cloud
Posted same on this thread earlier

Anyways thanks :)

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Originally Posted by Darian[Supercell]

I'm not really sure what you're expecting me to say on this apart from what's already been said. I know it sounds like a broken record but it is something the team is looking into and has been.

Reducing shield times may not necessarily be the right answer. Having shorter shield times means players will just hop online more often or for longer stretches of time to avoid being attacked while trying to find more bases to attack. And that is the underlying issue - it requires people to be offline with no shields. When there is a high number of people online trying to find a base to attack then it leaves not enough bases to attack.

Removing shields altogether for that league might look like a solution but would have similar consequences.

Going H2H is an option we're possibly looking at as it proved it could work as it does on the Builder Base. It takes advantage of the number of people online instead of the number of people offline. Given that we just implemented the H2H system, we do need to collect more data on if it's a viable solution first and try and predict how many people it will impact, and how it will impact the end-game leagues.

Yes there are solutions out there. Each one of them has pros and cons; some with more cons than pros, but some are potentially viable. The goal is to find the one that has the least number of negative consequences for the players. The idea people spend more gems while clouding is a silly one. We would prefer if players were able to enjoy the game when they want and not have to wait in a virtual cloud-queue to do so.

If you're looking for me to say "we have a solution planned for X date" then I don't have that answer for you yet.

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Thanks for making things clear. I really hope you will somehow get clouds fixed.

However, since this issue is affecting players for years, it's just disappointing to know you're still in this phase (viability study) of the process. I really look forward to seeing H2H in legend league out of the paper.

If you can, please update us as soon as you get further information on cloud fixing, how it will work, and when it is expected to be delivered.

Again, tks for answering. I was looking for some information from SC on legends clouds for a long time.

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Originally Posted by scysk

Please, next time read carefully.Where did I say clouds encourage gemming?I quoted: There's no money in it for them if they fix clouds.Which is entirely different.

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Putting things in bold capitals doesn't make it right... this isn't a virtual shouting contest.others have explained their views on why removing clouds would make them (sc) money. You'll need more than big font and an attitude like scarey spice to be convincing. We await your reply

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Originally Posted by yukonAC

How can titan players find legend bases quickly (even if it doesn't happen often - it still happens) while legends players are looking for hours?

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I haven't been into the high Legends but I never had hours (or even an hour) waiting. It gets incrementally longer as one goes up the Titans levels into Legends. It isn't like I get my Legend badge and another 30 minutes are added on to the search times, they were averaging about the same at 5025 as they were at 4975.

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Originally Posted by Ken1374

I haven't been into the high Legends but I never had hours (or even an hour) waiting. It gets incrementally longer as one goes up the Titans levels into Legends. It isn't like I get my Legend badge and another 30 minutes are added on to the search times, they were averaging about the same at 5025 as they were at 4975.

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When he mentioned hours, he was most certainly talking about the upper reaches of Legend and not in the lower end. As you said, wait times aren't bad in the 5000 range and really are fine (for me) up until about 5600. I keep climbing past, but it's with some annoyance. However, Yukon's question is a legitimate in that why should a guy past 5600 have to wait extended periods for a base when a guy in Titan, who likely waited significantly less time, gets a Legend League base. My immediate guess is that their are a multitude of "pools," so to speak, where one clasher can't see bases becoming available in other pools. I.e. that Titan player and the Legend player weren't looking in the same clouds.

Just like any other idea being thrown out, there are pros and cons to everything. Setting a hard line against Titan's hitting Legends might very well allow more bases to the Legend League players that are searching, but I'm sure it also would have some adverse effects on Titan players as well.

The real problem imho is that it is to easy to get a one star victory as a maxed TH11. The only limitation that people have with pushing is the time limitation. The result is that people stay online endlessly. The solution is that you make your army weaker when you get more cups. So at e.g. 5000 cups your army is the same as it is now but if you get more cups the hitpoints and dps of your troops get lower. Then it becomes more and more difficult to beat the base of your opponent. Time online will no longer be the decisive factor but attacking and defending skill.