Mutiny Army Encyclopedia: Test & Suggest

Due to the downfall of Mutiny Invictus, this thread has been renamed:
EX Family Army Encyclopedia: Test & Suggest

Us at Mutiny Invictus were scrolling around the forums looking for things to do; recruit, give advice, create new ideas… etc. We noticed a massive overload of threads in the “Tactics, Strategies, & Questions” sub-forum asking about the best troop type for so and so town hall level and whatever troop capacity. We got down to talking and came up with a great idea: Why don’t we make a thread where all of this information and wealth of knowledge can be found in one place? Why not have fun battling by testing out crazy, fun army combos while also learning more about the game and how it is played? Here is our idea:

Basically, you start off by asking for us to test out an army composition for you. For example, you would say:
-200 troop capacity, 10 giants, 2 healers, 6 wallbreakers, the rest are archers.
-Farming
-TH8
or:
-240 troop capacity, 40 barbs, 170 archers, 30 goblins, Barb King
-Trophy pushing
-TH 10

We then would have a player from our clan test this army composition out. This player would then reply to your post with your suggestion in quotes, followed by a summary of how the battle went and how we think best to use this composition. A picture of the results will be posted after, showing how successful the battle was.

If the post you want us to test is very similar to one we have done, please do not ask us to test it. Fell free to post your own test results and such, but we will not do repeats. If you post your own, we will index it.

Feel free to post your own suggestions and/or test results, any deposit into this bank of knowledge is greatly appreciated by all. Here is a prime example of what a post of your own should look like

Example Test

Army: Hogs/Balloons (20 hogs, 20 balloons, CC archers optional)

The Raid: (note that some tests may include videos)

http://i745.photobucket.com/albums/x...ps9b99a48c.jpg


http://i745.photobucket.com/albums/x...ps88e426df.jpg


Guide:

1) Lure & kill CC troops with you CC. If none, go to step 2.

2) Deploy as few hogs as possible to destroy the nearest air defense.

3) Deploy your balloons on the same side.

4) If there were no CC troops, deploy your CC after a few seconds to help clear out buildings. There shouldn’t be any defenses left where you started the battle, so don’t worry about your CC troops dying. (optional)

5) As your balloons head deeper into the base, use rage or heals spells for an extra boost (optional)

6) Support your balloons by deploying the rest of your hogs on the the opposite side of the base, or near crucial air defenses.

7) Watch as your troops demolish the rest of the base.

Summary: This army can be a useful trophy hunting army. It is also a very quick army. At max level troops and with either one or both heroes, this army combo should easily be able to 2 star well developed TH 9’s.

Index:
#1: BAM (Barbarians/Archers/Minions)
link: http://forum.supercell.net/showthrea...l=1#post951666

#2: GVWbW (Golem/Valkyrie/Wallbreaker/Wizard)
link:http://forum.supercell.net/showthrea...l=1#post954828

#3: WAB (Wallbreakers/Archers/Barbarians)
link: http://forum.supercell.net/showthrea...l=1#post957621

#4: VGHDW: (Valkyries/Golems/Healers/Dragons/Wallbreakers)
link: http://forum.supercell.net/showthrea...l=1#post958243

#5: WHG (Wizard/Healer/Giant)
link: http://forum.supercell.net/showthrea...l=1#post959932

#6: MAH (Minions/Archers/Healers)
link: http://forum.supercell.net/showthrea...l=1#post959945

#7: Ballonions (Balloons/Minions)
link: http://forum.supercell.net/showthrea...l=1#post964851

#8: Raining Death (Balloons/Dragons)
link: http://forum.supercell.net/showthrea...l=1#post973252

#9: HAM (Hogs/Archers/Minions)
link: http://forum.supercell.net/showthrea...l=1#post973308

#10: Generic distract and destroy (Healers/Giants/Barbs/Archers/Wallbreakers)
link: http://forum.supercell.net/showthrea...l=1#post973629

#11: 100% overkill (Dragons/Wizards/Archers)
link: http://forum.supercell.net/showthrea...l=1#post979809

#12: Valk/Wiz/Healer Distract and Destroy (Valkyries/Wizards/Healers/Wallbreakers/Minions)
link: http://forum.supercell.net/showthrea...l=1#post981877

#13: Power Farming (Giants/Wizards/Healers/Wallbreakers/Minions/Archers)
link: http://forum.supercell.net/showthrea...l=1#post988828

#14: BAG (Barbarians/Archers/Goblins)
link: http://forum.supercell.net/showthrea...l=1#post998941

#15: Wallbreakers (Wallbreakers)
link: http://forum.supercell.net/showthrea...=1#post1006893

#16: GAWG!!!! (Goblins/Archers/Wizards/Giants)
link: http://forum.supercell.net/showthrea...=1#post1008487

Nice idea, hope it works out well :)

Thanks Wizard! Glad to have your support. We sincerely hope it does as well.

Could you guys test a BAM composition at TH7 max? Much has been said about what an efficient army this is for farming, BUT I have had mixed results with lvl 4 B/A and lvl 1 minions. Thoughts?

H

I will get on that ASAP. Subscribe to the thread or keep checking up, I will have the results up within 48 hours

Great idea 😎

Great idea guys!

Currently, I'm in need of a good, fast army composition that can boost me up the trophy counts quick. I'm a TH8 with L5 archers barbs and goblins, L2 minions and dragons, rest L4. I need this army to move me from sub200 farming into reasonable trophy ranges (1200-1500) without taking hours?

Any thoughts you have would be greatly appreciated!:cool:

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Originally Posted by Defeater

Great idea guys!

Currently, I'm in need of a good, fast army composition that can boost me up the trophy counts quick. I'm a TH8 with L5 archers barbs and goblins, L2 minions and dragons, rest L4. I need this army to move me from sub200 farming into reasonable trophy ranges (1200-1500) without taking hours?

Any thoughts you have would be greatly appreciated!:cool:

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Look up Comsii's goldstar army on YouTube. Definitely a great one.

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Originally Posted by Mynameshunter

Could you guys test a BAM composition at TH7 max? Much has been said about what an efficient army this is for farming, BUT I have had mixed results with lvl 4 B/A and lvl 1 minions. Thoughts?

H

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I'm looking forward to the results of this.I'm also a nearly maxed TH7 and have had mixed results,usually more bad than good.Anyway I hope this thread goes well,maybe people will see how awesome and helpful this clan is and bring in some recruits.😉

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Originally Posted by Defeater

Great idea guys!

Currently, I'm in need of a good, fast army composition that can boost me up the trophy counts quick. I'm a TH8 with L5 archers barbs and goblins, L2 minions and dragons, rest L4. I need this army to move me from sub200 farming into reasonable trophy ranges (1200-1500) without taking hours?

Any thoughts you have would be greatly appreciated!:cool:

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Honestly, TH8 Farming at Sub-200 is a lot slower than collectors at the 1200-1500 range. From down there, the best method is BAM - Barb Arch Minion. 200 of those can three-star most Th7s.

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Originally Posted by Stephenislander

Look up Comsii's goldstar army on YouTube. Definitely a great one.

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Goldstar army generally doesn't work well for TH8, to move from sub 200 just train barbs and snipe THs. Though you should move up automatically due to people dropping trophies on you.

True on the people dropping trophies on me. That seems to happen quite a bit.

Once I get into the 1200-1500 range, is BAM still the best composition for farming? I'm actually really curious to see the results of the BAM test that was requested earlier.

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Originally Posted by Defeater

True on the people dropping trophies on me. That seems to happen quite a bit.

Once I get into the 1200-1500 range, is BAM still the best composition for farming? I'm actually really curious to see the results of the BAM test that was requested earlier.

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I primarily use BAM in the 1300-1600 range as a TH8. It works beautifully!

Yeah if you know how to use BAM and can stay on a full hour, you can make 1M GPH

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Originally Posted by Thalric

Yeah if you know how to use BAM and can stay on a full hour, you can make 1M GPH

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I actually plan on making a full fledged BAM guide - but until then, I would say actually it is more like 1.7-2.0 MGPH as a th8.

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Originally Posted by Mynameshunter

Could you guys test a BAM composition at TH7 max? Much has been said about what an efficient army this is for farming, BUT I have had mixed results with lvl 4 B/A and lvl 1 minions. Thoughts?

H

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Guide;
1. First, take out the nearest mortar to the selected drop-zone with two lightning spells (3 spells if it will take out 2 mortars)(Optional).

2. Place all barbs down around drop-zone to use as meat shields, in an area about as long as your thumb, or two inches long.

3. Wait about ten seconds and then place most archers about an inch behind where you dropped your barbs, saving about twenty.

4. Wait a few seconds till you are around 40 percent, then drop minions where you dropped your archers. Drop in a large swathe, maybe 3 inches long on an iPhone and 5 on an iPad.

5. (If possible) Drop clan castle troops and barb king to maximize damage.

Summary:
This is a very cheap, quick, and effective farming army. It creates a huge profit, especially due to the low cost. As Professor Oak, leader of my clan says, more than one million gold per hour is do-able with this army. I highly recommend this for the average TH7 farmer.

*Note: Experiences may vary, play around with the deployment strategy to suit your style.

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Originally Posted by Wizard

Goldstar army generally doesn't work well for TH8, to move from sub 200 just train barbs and snipe THs. Though you should move up automatically due to people dropping trophies on you.

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True, I would agree were he pushing into gold I and Crystal and beyond, however, when coming from sub 200 up to 1200 this is the quickest and cheapest way if you want loot as well. Although Town Hall sniping is definitely very effective as well.

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Originally Posted by Stephenislander

https://app.glassboard.com/web/api/b...d4150f57c/data

https://app.glassboard.com/web/api/b...295f1cc47/data

1. First, take out the nearest mortar to the selected drop-zone with two lightning spells (3 spells if it will take out 2 mortars)(Optional).

2. Place all barbs down around drop-zone to use as meat shields, in an area about as long as your thumb, or two inches long.

3. Wait about ten seconds and then place most archers about an inch behind where you dropped your barbs, saving about twenty.

4. Wait a few seconds till you are around 40 percent, then drop minions where you dropped your archers. Drop in a large swathe, maybe 3 inches long on an iPhone and 5 on an iPad.

5. (If possible) Drop clan castle troops and barb king to maximize damage.

Summary:
This is a very cheap, quick, and effective farming army. It creates a huge profit, especially due to the low cost. As Professor Oak, leader of my clan says, more than one million gold per hour is do-able with this army. I highly recommend this for the average TH7 farmer.

*Note: Experiences may vary, play around with the deployment strategy to suit your style.

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BAM does not require you to deploy all of your troops. You want use the minimum troops possible to get the loot. This means less time waiting for training, and so more GPH.

I hardly ever deploy all of my troops... I usually use about 75 barbs and 50 archers per raid, and a few minions every now and then.

Another thing: the minions should not deployed every raid. They should be saved for use as a cleanup crew only when necessary.

This is a good guide, though. Just remember to conserve as many troops as possible.

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Originally Posted by AirmanRaider

BAM does not require you to deploy all of your troops. You want use the minimum troops possible to get the loot. This means less time waiting for training, and so more GPH.

I hardly ever deploy all of my troops... I usually use about 75 barbs and 50 archers per raid, and a few minions every now and then.

Another thing: the minions should not deployed every raid. They should be saved for use as a cleanup crew only when necessary.

This is a good guide, though. Just remember to conserve as many troops as possible.

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I realize, just trying to use each army to it's full potential. I wanted to show that it can easily three star a base as well as be an effective farming tool. Thank you though, any input is great.

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Originally Posted by AirmanRaider

BAM does not require you to deploy all of your troops. You want use the minimum troops possible to get the loot. This means less time waiting for training, and so more GPH.

I hardly ever deploy all of my troops... I usually use about 75 barbs and 50 archers per raid, and a few minions every now and then.

Another thing: the minions should not deployed every raid. They should be saved for use as a cleanup crew only when necessary.

This is a good guide, though. Just remember to conserve as many troops as possible.

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I think the guide was aiming towards attacking decent bases with the loot in the storages, where using most or all of the army is neccessary. Your point is a very good and valid one, though. I only use about the same amount of troops for collector raids as you do.

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Originally Posted by Stephenislander

I realize, just trying to use each army to it's full potential. I wanted to show that it can easily three star a base as well as be an effective farming tool. Thank you though, any input is great.

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Ok, I understand what you mean. I find that if I deploy all 200 troops I can usually three-star most TH7's (I'm TH8) and I have heard of people using BAM to trophy hunt in Crystal.

I am only concerned with ruthless, efficient farming, though! :p

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Originally Posted by ProfessorOak

I actually plan on making a full fledged BAM guide - but until then, I would say actually it is more like 1.7-2.0 MGPH as a th8.

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Really? Im only hitting 1M at 1400 cups. Should I move up to 1500 cups with you?

Sorry but I've just been itching to see what the new LvL 4 is capable of


I had some curiosities

10 Valkyries
2 Pekka
10 WB
12 Wizards (archer's filling up the holes)
3/2 Rage, 1/2 heal

I think the above combo could be powerful, with Pekka checking for spring traps and the general DPS of this combo

or

1 Golem
12 Valkyries
10 WB
13 Wizards
2 Rage and 2 Heal

Similar idea really, but a Golem might be more reliable as both a tank and a spring trap checker

And finally!

12 Valkyrie
3 Healers
6 Balloons
8 Wizards
2 Rage and 2 Jump Spells

I'd just love to try this, though it doesn't have a spring trap troop. But using the Jump spell to get inside and taking out an AD (may need to swap a spell for a healing) then deploying healers and balloons (balloons to distract). Using rage at critical times along with an additional jump. It seems to me the new Valks can take walls out fine on their own. I've seen suggestions and people state they'd try similar things but haven't seen a vid or results....

I have a valkyrie combo video taken with lv 1 valks before the update in my sig.

Your armies look very interesting, give us some time to test them all!

So I'm interested to hear if other people have had similar experience: BAM was working pretty efficiently for me up til the update (like i say, a little mixed, but some disasters were probably due to me getting overly ambitious). However, since the update, collector loot has been pretty weak and I've been finding myself trying to break into more cores for the 200k. BAM doesn't seem like the most effective army for consistently breaching cores, so I've been running a simple giant/healer and not dropping the healer when I can avoid it.

Have you guys modified your armies post-update? Ay ideas on what the curve is like for the return to normal levels of collector loot?

H

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Originally Posted by Mynameshunter

So I'm interested to hear if other people have had similar experience: BAM was working pretty efficiently for me up til the update (like i say, a little mixed, but some disasters were probably due to me getting overly ambitious). However, since the update, collector loot has been pretty weak and I've been finding myself trying to break into more cores for the 200k. BAM doesn't seem like the most effective army for consistently breaching cores, so I've been running a simple giant/healer and not dropping the healer when I can avoid it.

Have you guys modified your armies post-update? Ay ideas on what the curve is like for the return to normal levels of collector loot?

H

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I just use more of my army to penetrate deeper into the base. The loot you gain is definitely worth the extra troops.

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Originally Posted by Mynameshunter

So I'm interested to hear if other people have had similar experience: BAM was working pretty efficiently for me up til the update (like i say, a little mixed, but some disasters were probably due to me getting overly ambitious). However, since the update, collector loot has been pretty weak and I've been finding myself trying to break into more cores for the 200k. BAM doesn't seem like the most effective army for consistently breaching cores, so I've been running a simple giant/healer and not dropping the healer when I can avoid it.

Have you guys modified your armies post-update? Ay ideas on what the curve is like for the return to normal levels of collector loot?

H

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I have found the same amount of loot in collectors, but I can also go for storages.
I put 3 Barracks Archers, 1 Barbs, 1 Minions (My minions are l4 which helps)
You use barbs to break walls, I suggest throwing down a heal/rage (yey spell boost) to help them out.
Then spam troops for a dramatic DPS increase, and finally, go in with the minions.

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Originally Posted by ProfessorOak

I have found the same amount of loot in collectors, but I can also go for storages.
I put 3 Barracks Archers, 1 Barbs, 1 Minions (My minions are l4 which helps)
You use barbs to break walls, I suggest throwing down a heal/rage (yey spell boost) to help them out.
Then spam troops for a dramatic DPS increase, and finally, go in with the minions.

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Does it get expensive or time consuming using rage spells?

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Originally Posted by Defeater

Does it get expensive or time consuming using rage spells?

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Well, I only use the rage when it would gain me money. Time is not an issue with the boosting also.

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Originally Posted by NioTheDreamer

Sorry but I've just been itching to see what the new LvL 4 is capable of


I had some curiosities

10 Valkyries
2 Pekka
10 WB
12 Wizards (archer's filling up the holes)
3/2 Rage, 1/2 heal

I think the above combo could be powerful, with Pekka checking for spring traps and the general DPS of this combo

or

1 Golem
12 Valkyries
10 WB
13 Wizards
2 Rage and 2 Heal

Similar idea really, but a Golem might be more reliable as both a tank and a spring trap checker

And finally!

12 Valkyrie
3 Healers
6 Balloons
8 Wizards
2 Rage and 2 Jump Spells

I'd just love to try this, though it doesn't have a spring trap troop. But using the Jump spell to get inside and taking out an AD (may need to swap a spell for a healing) then deploying healers and balloons (balloons to distract). Using rage at critical times along with an additional jump. It seems to me the new Valks can take walls out fine on their own. I've seen suggestions and people state they'd try similar things but haven't seen a vid or results....

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Hello. We have seen your request and will definitely test them out. However, due to the fact that there are multiple suggestions and such strong (and expensive) troops, we are going to need your patience with us, as this will be difficult to fill. We will get to you, but we will need to communicate with some stronger members to get this done. Thank you for understanding.

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Originally Posted by NioTheDreamer

Sorry but I've just been itching to see what the new LvL 4 is capable of


I had some curiosities

1 Golem
12 Valkyries
10 WB
13 Wizards
2 Rage and 2 Heal

Similar idea really, but a Golem might be more reliable as both a tank and a spring trap checker

It seems to me the new Valks can take walls out fine on their own. I've seen suggestions and people state they'd try similar things but haven't seen a vid or results....

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Ok! I did a raid with this army. Here's how it went:

Army: 1 Golem (lv 1), 12 Valks (lv 2), 11 wb (lv 5), 13 wiz (lv 5), 2 rage (lv 5)

Results:

http://i745.photobucket.com/albums/x...ps43fac02c.jpg

http://i745.photobucket.com/albums/x...psd021266a.jpg

I forgot to take a screenshot before the raid, but it was a maxed TH8 Pokeball.

Guide:

1) Drop your golem and/or BK as close to the base as you can. This is important to minimize the amount of wandering that your troops do.

2) Let your golem activate heroes/cc troops.

3) Deploy half of your wizards and valks and let them get sucked into the base by the heroes/cc troops.

4) Use a rage spell to easily get past the first/second layer.

5) Deploy the rest of your troops around the base as needed.

6) (optional) Use extra spells if needed.

Summary: Definitely a strong army. However, it is not cost or time effective at all, and I still prefer my valk/wiz/healer combo, which only takes 1 hour compared to this army's 2 hour build time. In my raid, I didn't have to deal with CC/heroes, but I included a part about them in the guide based on how enemy heroes/CC have helped me in raids in the past. I also spammed all of my troops at the same time, which was not a smart move. Hence the part about deploying half of your troop initially.

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Originally Posted by sfergusond

Summary: Definitely a strong army. However, it is not cost or time effective at all, and I still prefer my valk/wiz/healer combo, which only takes 1 hour compared to this army's 2 hour build time. In my raid, I didn't have to deal with CC/heroes, but I included a part about them in the guide based on how enemy heroes/CC have helped me in raids in the past. I also spammed all of my troops at the same time, which was not a smart move. Hence the part about deploying half of your troop initially.

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Thanks! I have a LvL 2 golem, a pair of healers, 10 valks and a pair of dragons I plan to try early this morning. My wizards aren't properly leveled or my balloons. It makes me optimistic to see you results on how they will fair.

Do you run into difficulty with spring traps with Valk/Wizard/Healer? I saw that as a huge wild card with the few runs I got with the Valks

Stephenislander - Just glad your willing to do it!

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Originally Posted by NioTheDreamer

Thanks! I have a LvL 2 golem, a pair of healers, 10 valks and a pair of dragons I plan to try early this morning. My wizards aren't properly leveled or my balloons. It makes me optimistic to see you results on how they will fair.

Do you run into difficulty with spring traps with Valk/Wizard/Healer? I saw that as a huge wild card with the few runs I got with the Valks

Stephenislander - Just glad your willing to do it!

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Any time! Seeing and learning about these attacks is always fun. Thanks for showing interest in our thread.

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Originally Posted by NioTheDreamer

Thanks! I have a LvL 2 golem, a pair of healers, 10 valks and a pair of dragons I plan to try early this morning. My wizards aren't properly leveled or my balloons. It makes me optimistic to see you results on how they will fair.

Do you run into difficulty with spring traps with Valk/Wizard/Healer? I saw that as a huge wild card with the few runs I got with the Valks

Stephenislander - Just glad your willing to do it!

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I don't usually have spring trap problems because I usually throw my barb king in to set off spring traps. If he is sleeping, then I'll simply attack base without interior funneling.

I just want to give a huge shout out to islander and sfergusond who are doing so much for this thread.

This is awesome. Great idea guys. And could you test out an army ive been wondering about, archer/healer/minion? I was thinking that you could also throw in a dragon as meat shield for the ad, but i really have no idea :p

Awesome thread guys, keep up the good work!

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Originally Posted by Sgruenler3

This is awesome. Great idea guys. And could you test out an army ive been wondering about, archer/healer/minion? I was thinking that you could also throw in a dragon as meat shield for the ad, but i really have no idea :p

Awesome thread guys, keep up the good work!

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I will get on that immediately. Thanks for the bump! Expect to see it in less than 48 hours.

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Originally Posted by ProfessorOak

I just want to give a huge shout out to islander and sfergusond who are doing so much for this thread.

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Thanks Oak, it's all thanks to you starting the clan. You're a great leader brah.

Hey, could you tell me a good army for farming in TH8?

I am currently in the 1500+ trophy range and have level 5 archer, barbarians and giants, level 2 dragon and healer, everything else is level 4. My minions and my hog riders are level 1 (:( I am a new TH8).

I have 200 army spaces.

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Originally Posted by SeriousClasher

Hey, could you tell me a good army for farming in TH8?

I am currently in the 1500+ trophy range and have level 5 archer, barbarians and giants, level 2 dragon and healer, everything else is level 4. My minions and my hog riders are level 1 (:( I am a new TH8).

I have 200 army spaces.

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Use BAM (barbs/arch/minions). I use 80/80/20 of barbs/arch/minions, but there are many variations. Stephenislander made a quick guide earlier in the thread, so you can look at that. Professor Oak is also planning to make an in depth guide, so keep an eye out for that.

Good luck!

Wallbreakers x 10, Archers x 120, Barbs x 60.

https://app.glassboard.com/web/api/b...811b1a0ee/data
https://app.glassboard.com/web/api/b...ff6383c83/data
Guide:
1. Use two lightning spells to take out the nearest mortar.
2. Place down ten barbs to use as a meat-shield
3. Place down all wallbreakers slightly to the left or right of barbs, this will avoid mortar shots towards the barbs. The ten wallbreakers will open up the base quite a bit.
4. Using two fingers, place down all the archers and the rest of the barbs behind original drop.

Summary:
This is an easy to use, cheap, effective farming army. This isn't meant to 100% a base (although if you can do that then props to you). This is meant for quick farming, you go in, get the loot, and get out. This is most effective in the silver I category with th7 and th8 level troops.

3 giants, 3 wizards, all the rest healers, barbs for remaining space.

Guide, try to do a generic distract and destroy with the healers and giants.

Can you please test this armies composition for me?

15 lv.4 giants
8 lv.4 wall breakers
2 lv.2 healers
81 lv.4 archers

thanks for the help.

great idea and great thread!! what do you guys think is the best gold farming army for a near maxed th9? lately i've been using 12 giants, 8wb, 10minions, 32 gobs, 32 barbs and 60 archers (220 army camp space) at around 1400-1700. all my elixir troops are maxed and minions as well. hog riders on their way to level 4 as we speak. anyway, any advice would be apreciated :)

Thanks for the ideas! I will get on all of these as soon as I donate out the rest of my dragons.

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Originally Posted by MoustacheMike

great idea and great thread!! what do you guys think is the best gold farming army for a near maxed th9? lately i've been using 12 giants, 8wb, 10minions, 32 gobs, 32 barbs and 60 archers (220 army camp space) at around 1400-1700. all my elixir troops are maxed and minions as well. hog riders on their way to level 4 as we speak. anyway, any advice would be apreciated :)

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For any farming, BAM is an amazing choice. To find out more, you can check out my test from earlier (link in the index of the main post). Professor Oak is also making a full BAM guide later on, so you can wait for that for more info. Another option, if DE is a scarcity for you, is to use my WAB strategy (link also in the main post). Good luck and happy clashing!

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I'll post the results screen - says I exceeded my limit

Combo

1. 10 Valks
2. 1 Golem
3. 2 Healers
4. 2 Dragons
5. 10 WB

3 Healing spells

Summary
Strong but the healers just ended up making the golem a super tank. This wasn't effective because the valkyries didn't get the benefit of the healing-Pekka seems a better choice.

The valks were very powerful and didn't need the wb greatly, just to get in and break quickly into the heavy defensive fire areas. Chewed the cc troops to pieces in seconds, bk didn't fair alot better.

Drags were a good distraction for the healers but I deployed them ineffectively. I do believe balloons would fair better because of their 5 unit space and defense preference.

Wish I had rages as they would of been more effective, the healing was mainly used to compensate for poor deployment of drags

Overall - powerful - did get a 100% with room to spare but very expensive


Edit: Says I can exceeded my limit - the base was 100% and here is a link to the video https://app.box.com/s/tff2jlvm2wh20cdqs5bu

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Originally Posted by Sylau

3 giants, 3 wizards, all the rest healers, barbs for remaining space.

Guide, try to do a generic distract and destroy with the healers and giants.

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Hi, I don't think that this would work because 3 giants won't provide enough DPS to destroy air defences before the air defences kill the healers. We can still test it out if you want, however.

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Originally Posted by sfergusond

Hi, I don't think that this would work because 3 giants won't provide enough DPS to destroy air defences before the air defences kill the healers. We can still test it out if you want, however.

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Oh, it's okay. D: ill try to think of a more practical one.

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Originally Posted by Sylau

3 giants, 3 wizards, all the rest healers, barbs for remaining space.

Guide, try to do a generic distract and destroy with the healers and giants.

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http://i848.photobucket.com/albums/a...ps69c12c8f.jpg
http://i848.photobucket.com/albums/a...ps74b9ed6b.jpg

Guide:
1. Place down 4 giants, these will be the bulk of your attack
2. Place wizards behind giants.
3. Lightning attack the nearest AD.
4. Wait till your giants near about half-health, then place all your healers behind
5. If you have BK and CC troops place behind healers

Summary:
I do not recommend this attack strategy. It was incredibly entertaining, both in thought and on screen. The cost of the healers will rarely be compensated for by loot, as the troops will go for defense before anything. The only reason I got any loot at all was because of the wizards and my BK. I used up the full time limit and barely broke 50%. If you are looking to goof around and use a fun strategy, look no further. But this is neither a trophy hunt nor a farming composition.

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Originally Posted by Sgruenler3

This is awesome. Great idea guys. And could you test out an army ive been wondering about, archer/healer/minion? I was thinking that you could also throw in a dragon as meat shield for the ad, but i really have no idea :p

Awesome thread guys, keep up the good work!

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https://app.glassboard.com/web/api/b...e28cc6a5a/data
https://app.glassboard.com/web/api/b...b118c1937/data

Guide:
1. Lightning on mortars or AD (your choice).
2. Place down all archers in a small sweep.
3. Place down healers
4. Place down minions (note: minions cannot be healed by healers)

Summary:
This was a fun one. Although it was over pretty quickly, watching the flood of archers and minions flowing around was entertaining to say the least. The healers had little effect, however, because they cannot heal minions and if the archers are hit by a mortar that is the end of half your army. The mortars quickly tore apart my archers and the AD/Wiz towers demolished the minions, and the healers were left at the end of the battle. I would not recommend this to be an army you use often. It was a cool idea, but not very effective.

EDIT: the title is MAH, not BAH.

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Originally Posted by Sylau

Oh, it's okay. D: ill try to think of a more practical one.

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It doesn't have to be practical necessarily, it just needs to work. Your suggestion simply lacked the DPS to work. Your thinking is on the right track, however. I'm curious to see what you come up with!

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Originally Posted by Stephenislander

For any farming, BAM is an amazing choice. To find out more, you can check out my test from earlier (link in the index of the main post). Professor Oak is also making a full BAM guide later on, so you can wait for that for more info. Another option, if DE is a scarcity for you, is to use my WAB strategy (link also in the main post). Good luck and happy clashing!

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hey, thanks for the quick response. DE is no problem, both of my drills are maxed. I'll try the BAM strategy, noticed it alot of times but never bothered to try it out. Will let you know how it went :)

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Originally Posted by MoustacheMike

hey, thanks for the quick response. DE is no problem, both of my drills are maxed. I'll try the BAM strategy, noticed it alot of times but never bothered to try it out. Will let you know how it went :)

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Awesome! Glad I could help.

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Originally Posted by Stephenislander

https://app.glassboard.com/web/api/b...e28cc6a5a/data
https://app.glassboard.com/web/api/b...b118c1937/data

Guide:
1. Lightning on mortars or AD (your choice).
2. Place down all archers in a small sweep.
3. Place down healers
4. Place down minions (note: minions cannot be healed by healers)

Summary:
This was a fun one. Although it was over pretty quickly, watching the flood of archers and minions flowing around was entertaining to say the least. The healers had little effect, however, because they cannot heal minions and if the archers are hit by a mortar that is the end of half your army. The mortars quickly tore apart my archers and the AD/Wiz towers demolished the minions, and the healers were left at the end of the battle. I would not recommend this to be an army you use often. It was a cool idea, but not very effective.

EDIT: the title is MAH, not BAH.

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Oh well. I was using bam, and wondered about this. I guess it would be useful for taking out premature bases with low splash. Thanks anyways! :)

Where can i find balloons and minions how to strategy

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Originally Posted by heay46

Where can i find balloons and minions how to strategy

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We don't have one yet. So search it! However, I was planning on doing balloons/minions anyways for my next raid, so it can write something up.

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Originally Posted by heay46

Where can i find balloons and minions how to strategy

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I can have one made in less than an hour. I'll get on that very soon.

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Originally Posted by heay46

Where can i find balloons and minions how to strategy

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Here ya go!

Army: 27 Balloons (lvl 5), 30 minions (lvl 4), 2 rage/heal spells (optional), BK (optional)

The Raid:

Before:
http://i745.photobucket.com/albums/x...ps0c0b85ab.jpg

Balloons deployed near AD's (rage spells completely unnecessary):
http://i745.photobucket.com/albums/x...ps7ff22982.jpg

Minion mop up crew:
http://i745.photobucket.com/albums/x...ps45ae375b.jpg

Result:
http://i745.photobucket.com/albums/x...ps679a74fe.jpg

Guide:

1) Lure out CC/AQ and kill them with your minions/BK/CC.

2) Deploy most of your balloons so that they will take the shortest route to AD's and/or Wiz towers. It might help to drop a few minions to tank some AD fire.

3) Deploy the rest of your balloons. Make sure to deploy them on a side that needs the extra help.

4) If necessary, use heal/rage spells.

5) Deploy your minions on the side that you initiated the attack to start mopping up.

Summary: This is a very easy and powerful army. The build time wasn't too great (55 minutes), but you can reduce it by adding more minions and taking some balloons away. I see this army combo as an easy DE farming army, and good for trophy hunting. You can tweak the amount of balloons/minions used, or even add some hogs/valks based on the situation.

I personally prefer a lightning to dispatch of cc troops (archers mostly) and use a heal and a rage.

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Originally Posted by Commander

I personally prefer a lightning to dispatch of cc troops (archers mostly) and use a heal and a rage.

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That can be helpful, but when farming it is not necessary and will definitely hurt your gold profit.

Just a reminder to everyone to post their suggestions. It is also awesome if you want to test your own compositions and post the results on here. Post a picture of the composition (see main post), and the results at the end (also in main post). Feel free to post pictures of the battle, these also are great helps.

I tried Hogs, Archers and Minions last night, around 2000 trophies. Basically, 4 barracks on archers, one on hogs, one on minions. The idea was a farming army, so mainly the types of collector raids you find at higher trophies (i.e. collectors are fairly well guarded, often behind walls).

The problem was not enough hogs to tank or take down defenses, and maybe too low level (mine are level 2). If I had level 4+ hogs, might have worked better, but still I suspect not enough hitpoints, and at only around 7 hogs that's not enough if they can't tank as well as a giant.

Overall, I was underwhelamed, and have moved back to Giants, Archers and Minions (sometimes with 4-6 WB). I did mave some luck with partly-protected TH, where the hogs got at the tessla etc behind walls easier than giants would have, but again their lack of durability, and lack of numbers, was their downfall.

p.s. I'm without spells while upgrading my spell factory, although I don't think that's a big deal as I'm mainly farming and would not typically use spells with these kinds of troops, except maybe a lightning if 25+ archers unexpectedly pop out of the CC...

Here's a thought for you guys.

I only have 1 barracks that can make PEKKAS and I'm wondering about an army composition that has a PEKKA compliment, but not heavy on them (as only 1 barracks currently can make her).
So really, whatever you think? The goal is a fun army, not really for trophies or resources specifically. I just want to have a good time :D



Also a second idea:
All girl army? Archers, healers, pekka, valks?

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Originally Posted by Defeater

Here's a thought for you guys.

I only have 1 barracks that can make PEKKAS and I'm wondering about an army composition that has a PEKKA compliment, but not heavy on them (as only 1 barracks currently can make her).
So really, whatever you think? The goal is a fun army, not really for trophies or resources specifically. I just want to have a good time :D



Also a second idea:
All girl army? Archers, healers, pekka, valks?

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I'm thinking 1 pekka, 2 healers, the rest archers. What do you think? Sound like a good one?

Amazing idea! This will go SO good, trust me!

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Originally Posted by ClasherOfClans

Amazing idea! This will go SO good, trust me!

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Thanks dude! Glad to hear. Feel free to suggest or test whatever compositions you want, I'll add it to the index.

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Originally Posted by hastur

I tried Hogs, Archers and Minions last night, around 2000 trophies. Basically, 4 barracks on archers, one on hogs, one on minions. The idea was a farming army, so mainly the types of collector raids you find at higher trophies (i.e. collectors are fairly well guarded, often behind walls).

The problem was not enough hogs to tank or take down defenses, and maybe too low level (mine are level 2). If I had level 4+ hogs, might have worked better, but still I suspect not enough hitpoints, and at only around 7 hogs that's not enough if they can't tank as well as a giant.

Overall, I was underwhelamed, and have moved back to Giants, Archers and Minions (sometimes with 4-6 WB). I did mave some luck with partly-protected TH, where the hogs got at the tessla etc behind walls easier than giants would have, but again their lack of durability, and lack of numbers, was their downfall.

p.s. I'm without spells while upgrading my spell factory, although I don't think that's a big deal as I'm mainly farming and would not typically use spells with these kinds of troops, except maybe a lightning if 25+ archers unexpectedly pop out of the CC...

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Thank you for posting, I'll add this into the index.

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Originally Posted by Stephenislander

I'm thinking 1 pekka, 2 healers, the rest archers. What do you think? Sound like a good one?

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Sounds dodgy, the archers are easily taken out by splash damage, so you'll have to pick a base with weak splash to give your archers a chance i.e. one where a single shot from a wiz tower / mortar won't kill a whole bunch before they can get healed. Or if you plan on a single pekka with two healers to keep it alive, well a single pekka is easily killed by concentrated point-fire, even with a couple of healers on it... By all means experiment, but I think this kind of one has been tested ages ago on youtube and found lacking...

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Originally Posted by hastur

Sounds dodgy, the archers are easily taken out by splash damage, so you'll have to pick a base with weak splash to give your archers a chance i.e. one where a single shot from a wiz tower / mortar won't kill a whole bunch before they can get healed. Or if you plan on a single pekka with two healers to keep it alive, well a single pekka is easily killed by concentrated point-fire, even with a couple of healers on it... By all means experiment, but I think this kind of one has been tested ages ago on youtube and found lacking...

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What do you recommend? Three healers? I feel two would be enough to keep the big girl alive. But maybe three would be better? Tell me what you think.

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Originally Posted by Stephenislander

What do you recommend? Three healers? I feel two would be enough to keep the big girl alive. But maybe three would be better? Tell me what you think.

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In all honesty, I am not a fan of Healer-Pekka. I think Wiz-Pekka is almost always better.

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Originally Posted by ProfessorOak

In all honesty, I am not a fan of Healer-Pekka. I think Wiz-Pekka is almost always better.

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Either way. We could test both too, just so they are indexed. If anyone is curious it'll be there.

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Originally Posted by Defeater

Also a second idea:
All girl army? Archers, healers, pekka, valks?

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Interesting. I think I'll try this out,

http://i848.photobucket.com/albums/a...ps04f790ac.png
http://i848.photobucket.com/albums/a...ps8aaa0cd6.png
http://i848.photobucket.com/albums/a...psf2d1af5c.png

Guide:
1. (Optional) Lightning to the AD as with all air raids.

2. Place down all balloons as close as you can to an AD, if you have a fourth spell use a rage spell.

3. Place down dragons behind balloons about 5 seconds later.

4. Place down CC troops (balloons if you can) and BK.

Summary:
This is by far my favorite composition for trophy pushing, and I wanted to share it with you guys. Obviously it is expensive and takes a while, but you can easily earn your loot back and you can two and three star well developed Town Hall 8 bases quite easily with a Town Hall 7 max. Do not farm with this, that is pretty obvious.

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Originally Posted by hastur

I tried Hogs, Archers and Minions last night, around 2000 trophies. Basically, 4 barracks on archers, one on hogs, one on minions. The idea was a farming army, so mainly the types of collector raids you find at higher trophies (i.e. collectors are fairly well guarded, often behind walls).

The problem was not enough hogs to tank or take down defenses, and maybe too low level (mine are level 2). If I had level 4+ hogs, might have worked better, but still I suspect not enough hitpoints, and at only around 7 hogs that's not enough if they can't tank as well as a giant.

Overall, I was underwhelamed, and have moved back to Giants, Archers and Minions (sometimes with 4-6 WB). I did mave some luck with partly-protected TH, where the hogs got at the tessla etc behind walls easier than giants would have, but again their lack of durability, and lack of numbers, was their downfall.

p.s. I'm without spells while upgrading my spell factory, although I don't think that's a big deal as I'm mainly farming and would not typically use spells with these kinds of troops, except maybe a lightning if 25+ archers unexpectedly pop out of the CC...

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I decided to try this attack so here it is with pictures.

http://i848.photobucket.com/albums/a...psa90163f0.png
Not getting very far
http://i848.photobucket.com/albums/a...ps5817cd0e.png
http://i848.photobucket.com/albums/a...ps89a14c34.png

Guide:
1. Place all troops as close to town hall (hopefully exposed) as you can

2. Hope for the best

Summary:
Don't use this for farming or trophy hunting. The cost in DE will never be made up, the saving grace in this attack was my archers (Pushed me past 20%). If this base were super exposed, then my archers and minions would have dominated, but the hogs would be useless (Not that they helped much). However, this was quite fun to do, I enjoyed it quite a bit. I would never use it in a serious raid, but it did get me some trophies.

http://i848.photobucket.com/albums/a...ps2a72f0c9.png
Lightning (X2) on the mortar...
http://i848.photobucket.com/albums/a...ps59df6a26.png
A few barbs to distract nearby defense towers...
http://i848.photobucket.com/albums/a...ps7f5c1354.png
Some Wallbreakers...
http://i848.photobucket.com/albums/a...psa8325fc2.png
Throwing in the rest of the barbs...
http://i848.photobucket.com/albums/a...ps1261eb72.png
Now for the giants...
http://i848.photobucket.com/albums/a...ps8c68e6e6.png
Lemme see those healers...
http://i848.photobucket.com/albums/a...ps6ede4c65.png
Archers to clean up...
http://i848.photobucket.com/albums/a...psd3bd6dd9.png
Enjoy
http://i848.photobucket.com/albums/a...psc796dd89.png

Guide:
This army is great for a cheap trophy pushing comp. I would say it maxes out around 2000, although this raid at around 1850 was on a weaker base for this count (average Town Hall 8). I recommend this one to the average Town Hall 7 looking to help his/her clan in their push who still wants to make some profit. Go for it.

Great thread!

You should try for 200 troop capacity:
15 wizards
20 archers
6 dragons
2 rage
1 heal
It requires some practice though, but when you get it, you can wreck villages with ease

ID like to see

8 Giants / 8 wbs / 60 Archer / 60 Barbarian / 44 Goblin

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Originally Posted by Great

ID like to see

8 Giants / 8 wbs / 60 Archer / 60 Barbarian / 44 Goblin

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I'm on it!

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Originally Posted by Stephenislander

http://i848.photobucket.com/albums/a...psd7b35bf7.png
http://i848.photobucket.com/albums/a...ps2c712c71.png


Guide;
1. First, take out the nearest mortar to the selected drop-zone with two lightning spells (3 spells if it will take out 2 mortars)(Optional).

2. Place all barbs down around drop-zone to use as meat shields, in an area about as long as your thumb, or two inches long.

3. Wait about ten seconds and then place most archers about an inch behind where you dropped your barbs, saving about twenty.

4. Wait a few seconds till you are around 40 percent, then drop minions where you dropped your archers. Drop in a large swathe, maybe 3 inches long on an iPhone and 5 on an iPad.

5. (If possible) Drop clan castle troops and barb king to maximize damage.

Summary:
This is a very cheap, quick, and effective farming army. It creates a huge profit, especially due to the low cost. As Professor Oak, leader of my clan says, more than one million gold per hour is do-able with this army. I highly recommend this for the average TH7 farmer.

*Note: Experiences may vary, play around with the deployment strategy to suit your style.

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Yeh I see why you deployed all your troops to show the power f this army and I hope this thread does take off and become awesome!

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Originally Posted by AirmanRaider

BAM does not require you to deploy all of your troops. You want use the minimum troops possible to get the loot. This means less time waiting for training, and so more GPH.

I hardly ever deploy all of my troops... I usually use about 75 barbs and 50 archers per raid, and a few minions every now and then.

Another thing: the minions should not deployed every raid. They should be saved for use as a cleanup crew only when necessary.

This is a good guide, though. Just remember to conserve as many troops as possible.

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I agree with most and I use about 40 barbs&archers &10-20 minions per battle.
I don't agree with you on the don't use minions every battle though. If collectors are over walls its is much more time-efficient to drop 5 minions than use 15+ archers&barbs to get that collector over the wall. With this army you have to be willing to lose to use as little troops as possible so to solve this you can have a hybrid base to keep cups or add TH snipes to your normal search.

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Originally Posted by Mynameshunter

So I'm interested to hear if other people have had similar experience: BAM was working pretty efficiently for me up til the update (like i say, a little mixed, but some disasters were probably due to me getting overly ambitious). However, since the update, collector loot has been pretty weak and I've been finding myself trying to break into more cores for the 200k. BAM doesn't seem like the most effective army for consistently breaching cores, so I've been running a simple giant/healer and not dropping the healer when I can avoid it.

Have you guys modified your armies post-update? Ay ideas on what the curve is like for the return to normal levels of collector loot?

H

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I only just got back my collector raids and before that but after update to crack to cores i used
16 giants
12 wall breakers
32 goblins
40 archers
32 barbarians
I would appreciate if you guys can test this out for me, it is a good base to break into mid-level bases.

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Originally Posted by Metten98

Great thread!

You should try for 200 troop capacity:
15 wizards
20 archers
6 dragons
2 rage
1 heal
It requires some practice though, but when you get it, you can wreck villages with ease

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I will get on that. Definitely a pushing army, not at all cost effective haha.

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Originally Posted by ChiefofLiquidOrder

I only just got back my collector raids and before that but after update to crack to cores i used
16 giants
12 wall breakers
32 goblins
40 archers
32 barbarians
I would appreciate if you guys can test this out for me, it is a good base to break into mid-level bases.

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Personally, for farming, I've settled on 8 giants, 4-6 wall breakers, 20 goblins, maybe 4 minions, and the rest archers. This is with level 5 troops, around 1800-2100 trophies. I do have a King and Queen now, but only use them occasionally. I typically take 2 rage, 1 heal, and 1 lightning, but don't use the spells much. My clan castle is usually archers, sometimes a wizard or two, sometimes a few minions, occasionally a dragon; I don't use my castle much on attack though.

This army has minimal "heavies", but can actually break into the core of TH8 and some TH9, if required, especially if you have a king and/or queen available and it's worth the effort. It's also an extremely good army for collector farming at higher trophies, where typically you have to take out a King (and maybe queen), and the collectors are all behind walls or at least protected by tessla / archer towers / air defenses. I've used it succesfully this week, to raid for exlier as well as DE, and of course have made plenty of gold from it too. But mainly it's a very flexible army for TH8+, at higher trophies, where you can have a good look for bases offering 200k+ of each, often 250k+ of each as well as DE.

I'm a brand new TH9, and have been farming elixer for the last 7 days. This army has made me over 12M elixer profit (enough for 2 camp upgrades, level 1 DE drill, 6M for giants to level 6, and a few upgrades of my new gold storage), about 20K DE (getting close to the 25k for level 3 queen), and as I've had no spells for 5 of the 7 days I've also probably made a heap of gold (no idea how much, probably about 10M - I've got my 50 new walls all up to level 7, some of my old walls to level 8 i.e. skull, and got all the new defenses built to level 1 including 1M for a new tessla). As I only make a couple of raids in the morning, and then a few hours in the evening, that's a pretty good result given I'm TH9 with TH8 troops, and am a good donator to my clan (usually archers and minions, if I'm saving hard for elixer and DE).

Note: I found gold 1 to be pretty barren, once I got towards Crystal I've found the loot much better. Possibly just the weekly cycle of poor loot mid-week, but typically I do find it easier to find good offers once I've got the Crystal badge (and the better loot bonus helps, too - sometimes you can TH snipe, but generally nearly all of my "farming" raids I do actualy aim for 50%).

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Originally Posted by hastur

Personally, for farming, I've settled on 8 giants, 4-6 wall breakers, 20 goblins, maybe 4 minions, and the rest archers. This is with level 5 troops, around 1800-2100 trophies. I do have a King and Queen now, but only use them occasionally. I typically take 2 rage, 1 heal, and 1 lightning, but don't use the spells much. My clan castle is usually archers, sometimes a wizard or two, sometimes a few minions, occasionally a dragon; I don't use my castle much on attack though.

This army has minimal "heavies", but can actually break into the core of TH8 and some TH9, if required, especially if you have a king and/or queen available and it's worth the effort. It's also an extremely good army for collector farming at higher trophies, where typically you have to take out a King (and maybe queen), and the collectors are all behind walls or at least protected by tessla / archer towers / air defenses. I've used it succesfully this week, to raid for exlier as well as DE, and of course have made plenty of gold from it too. But mainly it's a very flexible army for TH8+, at higher trophies, where you can have a good look for bases offering 200k+ of each, often 250k+ of each as well as DE.

I'm a brand new TH9, and have been farming elixer for the last 7 days. This army has made me over 12M elixer profit (enough for 2 camp upgrades, level 1 DE drill, 6M for giants to level 6, and a few upgrades of my new gold storage), about 20K DE (getting close to the 25k for level 3 queen), and as I've had no spells for 5 of the 7 days I've also probably made a heap of gold (no idea how much, probably about 10M - I've got my 50 new walls all up to level 7, some of my old walls to level 8 i.e. skull, and got all the new defenses built to level 1 including 1M for a new tessla). As I only make a couple of raids in the morning, and then a few hours in the evening, that's a pretty good result given I'm TH9 with TH8 troops, and am a good donator to my clan (usually archers and minions, if I'm saving hard for elixer and DE).

Note: I found gold 1 to be pretty barren, once I got towards Crystal I've found the loot much better. Possibly just the weekly cycle of poor loot mid-week, but typically I do find it easier to find good offers once I've got the Crystal badge (and the better loot bonus helps, too - sometimes you can TH snipe, but generally nearly all of my "farming" raids I do actualy aim for 50%).

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yeh usually use 12 giants and switch in the 4 for gobs/barbs but just fine the more giants you add the heavier bases you can take on. At the moment using BAM and getting great loot at 1,300+

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Originally Posted by hastur

Personally, for farming, I've settled on 8 giants, 4-6 wall breakers, 20 goblins, maybe 4 minions, and the rest archers. This is with level 5 troops, around 1800-2100 trophies. I do have a King and Queen now, but only use them occasionally. I typically take 2 rage, 1 heal, and 1 lightning, but don't use the spells much. My clan castle is usually archers, sometimes a wizard or two, sometimes a few minions, occasionally a dragon; I don't use my castle much on attack though.

This army has minimal "heavies", but can actually break into the core of TH8 and some TH9, if required, especially if you have a king and/or queen available and it's worth the effort. It's also an extremely good army for collector farming at higher trophies, where typically you have to take out a King (and maybe queen), and the collectors are all behind walls or at least protected by tessla / archer towers / air defenses. I've used it succesfully this week, to raid for exlier as well as DE, and of course have made plenty of gold from it too. But mainly it's a very flexible army for TH8+, at higher trophies, where you can have a good look for bases offering 200k+ of each, often 250k+ of each as well as DE.

I'm a brand new TH9, and have been farming elixer for the last 7 days. This army has made me over 12M elixer profit (enough for 2 camp upgrades, level 1 DE drill, 6M for giants to level 6, and a few upgrades of my new gold storage), about 20K DE (getting close to the 25k for level 3 queen), and as I've had no spells for 5 of the 7 days I've also probably made a heap of gold (no idea how much, probably about 10M - I've got my 50 new walls all up to level 7, some of my old walls to level 8 i.e. skull, and got all the new defenses built to level 1 including 1M for a new tessla). As I only make a couple of raids in the morning, and then a few hours in the evening, that's a pretty good result given I'm TH9 with TH8 troops, and am a good donator to my clan (usually archers and minions, if I'm saving hard for elixer and DE).

Note: I found gold 1 to be pretty barren, once I got towards Crystal I've found the loot much better. Possibly just the weekly cycle of poor loot mid-week, but typically I do find it easier to find good offers once I've got the Crystal badge (and the better loot bonus helps, too - sometimes you can TH snipe, but generally nearly all of my "farming" raids I do actualy aim for 50%).

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What worked great for me was 60 barbarians and the rest archers. This was awesome for collector raids and was good enough to break into most cores at 1400 trophies.

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Originally Posted by ChiefofLiquidOrder

yeh usually use 12 giants and switch in the 4 for gobs/barbs but just fine the more giants you add the heavier bases you can take on. At the moment using BAM and getting great loot at 1,300+

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If I really want to take the core of a heavier base, I thrown down my king with the giants, and some rage. In my earlier days, I always used 12 giants minimum, but over time I've found the more you have the more you tend to waste them, which means you've got less archers to actually pick up the loot. And giants are not cheap. Anyway, just sayin', I try and use less giants now as I try and use less brute force and a bit more finesse in my farming. When trophy hunting, I prefer a golem over giants anyway, although with level 6 giants that might change a bit... In the end, it's not just the army, it's how you use it - less giants means you can't just throw a bunch down at once, you have to be really considered in how you deploy everything.

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Originally Posted by Stephenislander

What worked great for me was 60 barbarians and the rest archers. This was awesome for collector raids and was good enough to break into most cores at 1400 trophies.

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Yep; personally I haven't been down there since TH7, but I'd agree.

I tried my level 5 barbs around 1800, and it worked OK but generally I've always found a few Giants are better than Barbs at 1800+ trophies - they just tank better against what is usually decent-enough defenses at the edge.

What would you recommend for a farming army for a TH4, 75 housing, and 700 trophies?
Currently using:
6 Giants
2 Wallbreakers Lvl 2
3 Goblins
21 Archers Lvl 2
17 Barbs Lvl 2

CC:
10 Archers/2 Balloons

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Originally Posted by Doller

What would you recommend for a farming army for a TH4, 75 housing, and 700 trophies?

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For TH4, I had best success using just goblins and barbarians - fill one barrack with each. Or just 100% barbarians. Pick easy bases, and your storages are overflowing in no time. I never really used my clan castle, didn't need it. Giants etc were not required, and not strong enough at such low level.

Here's an example of what I acheived:

http://i.imgur.com/Go0iNyS.png

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Originally Posted by Doller

What would you recommend for a farming army for a TH4, 75 housing, and 700 trophies?
Currently using:
6 Giants
2 Wallbreakers Lvl 2
3 Goblins
21 Archers Lvl 2
17 Barbs Lvl 2

CC:
10 Archers/2 Balloons

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Do 3 wallbreakers, 10 barbs, 10 gobs, the rest archers. Drop the barbs as a meat shield, drop the wallbreakers to get into the vault (as most bases have down there), drop some archers, then your gobs, and (only if necessary) the rest of your archers.

First wanted to say this is encyclopedia is an AWESOME idea!! I've been having a lot of fun checking out all these different strategies. Mad props to whoever came up with this..

So Im a th10. Right now my troop and spell levels look like this. Ive got: Level 6 - archers, barbs, giants, balloons, lightning and healing spells. Level 5 - gobs, wb's, wizards, minions and rage spells. Level 4 - Healers. Level 3 - Dragons. Level 2 - Pekka. I've also got a level 11 AQ and a level 10 Bk, but its becoming super expensive to keep upgrading those..

I've been using the same army composition for forever now and was hoping to get some good new ideas to work with. Given my troop and spell levels, what would be some good strategies to try out?? I'm only looking to farm, don't care about trophies right now.

One of the biggest problems I have is when I search for a base to attack, it costs 1k every base I pass up on, but the bases I'm seeing are all like 40/60ish and not worth it. I usually have to search thru about 20-30 (maybe more) to find anything with enough loot worth attacking, and then those bases are always stacked. (Xbows, inf towers, etc.) it's very annoying...

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Originally Posted by Cm09

First wanted to say this is encyclopedia is an AWESOME idea!! I've been having a lot of fun checking out all these different strategies. Mad props to whoever came up with this..

So Im a th10. Right now my troop and spell levels look like this. Ive got: Level 6 - archers, barbs, giants, balloons, lightning and healing spells. Level 5 - gobs, wb's, wizards, minions and rage spells. Level 4 - Healers. Level 3 - Dragons. Level 2 - Pekka. I've also got a level 11 AQ and a level 10 Bk, but its becoming super expensive to keep upgrading those..

I've been using the same army composition for forever now and was hoping to get some good new ideas to work with. Given my troop and spell levels, what would be some good strategies to try out?? I'm only looking to farm, don't care about trophies right now.

One of the biggest problems I have is when I search for a base to attack, it costs 1k every base I pass up on, but the bases I'm seeing are all like 40/60ish and not worth it. I usually have to search thru about 20-30 (maybe more) to find anything with enough loot worth attacking, and then those bases are always stacked. (Xbows, inf towers, etc.) it's very annoying...

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Are you looking to farm? If you are farming I would definitely recommend BAM. If you are concerned with using DE because you are saving for your heroes, a giant/healer strategy would be good, or you could go with the WAB strategy. If you are looking for trophies my personal favorite is balloonions. Another great one is the balloons and dragons strategy, although that is costly.

Thanks for for checking out our thread though! I'm glad you like it. Sfergusond came up with the idea, you can thanks him. Keep looking for updates, this thread will continue to grow. Suggest compositions if you want, it's always great to see what comes up, they're always fun to test.

Hi, what a wonderful threat and I need your help here with my army composition!

Currently TH7 going to TH8.

Which army composition would be the best for farming but also not losing trophy at the same time?
(Victory with 1-2 star)

I'm currently using 10 Giants, 8WBs, 20 Gobs, 40 Barbs, rest archers.

Seems like it's not working too good for me which I think it can be improved further! I had to use some healing and rage spells in order to get my 1 star sometimes.

Help me!

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Originally Posted by YingKai

Hi, what a wonderful threat and I need your help here with my army composition!

Currently TH7 going to TH8.

Which army composition would be the best for farming but also not losing trophy at the same time?
(Victory with 1-2 star)

I'm currently using 10 Giants, 8WBs, 20 Gobs, 40 Barbs, rest archers.

Seems like it's not working too good for me which I think it can be improved further! I had to use some healing and rage spells in order to get my 1 star sometimes.

Help me!

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Hi there. If you are normally farming collector bases, then BAM is the way to go. However, if you like attacking stronger bases I would recommend a giant/healer army. I would use 6 WB/15-20 giants/1-3 healers and the rest a mix of barbs/archers/goblins/minions.

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Great thread!

You should try for 200 troop capacity:
15 wizards
20 archers
6 dragons
2 rage
1 heal
It requires some practice though, but when you get it, you can wreck villages with ease

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http://i848.photobucket.com/albums/a...ps1c5480f1.png
http://i848.photobucket.com/albums/a...psec895646.png

Guide:
1. Place the archers down in your selected area, recommended to be fairly close to the wall (maybe 4 tiles)

2. Place down all dragons in the same spot

3. Wait three seconds, then hit them with a rage, making sure to place slightly in front of them

4. Wait three more seconds, place down the heal

5. Place wizards down in one sweep

6. Hit the wizards with your final rage

7. 3-star the base

Summary:
Awesome army, awesome suggestion. This was a really fun one. Not only was it overly expensive (total overkill on my storages), it was 100% (get it? cause the base... nevermind) worth every drop of elixir. This army dominated. If you have money to spare for gemming troops and buying elixir, this is the army you should use, as it will take you far.

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Originally Posted by YingKai

Hi, what a wonderful threat and I need your help here with my army composition!

Currently TH7 going to TH8.

Which army composition would be the best for farming but also not losing trophy at the same time?
(Victory with 1-2 star)

I'm currently using 10 Giants, 8WBs, 20 Gobs, 40 Barbs, rest archers.

Seems like it's not working too good for me which I think it can be improved further! I had to use some healing and rage spells in order to get my 1 star sometimes.

Help me!

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I would agree with Sfer, if you want to retain your cups while still bringing in profits, use a giant/healer strategy.

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Originally Posted by Stephenislander

http://i848.photobucket.com/albums/a...ps1c5480f1.png
http://i848.photobucket.com/albums/a...psec895646.png

Guide:
1. Place the archers down in your selected area, recommended to be fairly close to the wall (maybe 4 tiles)

2. Place down all dragons in the same spot

3. Wait three seconds, then hit them with a rage, making sure to place slightly in front of them

4. Wait three more seconds, place down the heal

5. Place wizards down in one sweep

6. Hit the wizards with your final rage

7. 3-star the base

Summary:
Awesome army, awesome suggestion. This was a really fun one. Not only was it overly expensive (total overkill on my storages), it was 100% (get it? cause the base... nevermind) worth every drop of elixir. This army dominated. If you have money to spare for gemming troops and buying elixir, this is the army you should use, as it will take you far.

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Thx for testing mine, I agree it's not smart when you want elixir:rolleyes::rolleyes: That's why I don't attack bases under the 170k elixir:rolleyes:
This are my last results (TH-sniping excluded):

http://i39.tinypic.com/208h6gx.jpg

http://i40.tinypic.com/2d8flna.jpg

http://i40.tinypic.com/x1aa7n.jpg

http://i41.tinypic.com/2qm0tog.jpg

http://i42.tinypic.com/23lbm8o.jpg
Note the BK still standing in most cases, I prefer to use him to speed up the attack when I can

Army: 8 Valks/16 Wiz/4 Healers/4 wb/4 minion/BK (recommended)/rage spell (recommended)

The Raid:

Using minions to clear outer buildings

http://i745.photobucket.com/albums/x...ps3577d7ca.jpg

Deploying wallbreakers

http://i745.photobucket.com/albums/x...psebfa0ed2.jpg

Healer, valk, and BK deployment as initial tanks

http://i745.photobucket.com/albums/x...ps9243e7c5.jpg

Wizards and the rest of the valks deployed. Note how they are sucked in by CC troops.

http://i745.photobucket.com/albums/x...ps8c75e237.jpg

The result!

http://i745.photobucket.com/albums/x...ps3cb70537.jpg


Guide:

1) Use minions to clear outer buildings. Or save them and he them as an AD shield for the healers.

2) Deploy a valk and follow it up with a set of wall breakers.

3) Deploy BK (optional) and 5 valks. Make sure the either aim for an air defense or something inside the walls.

4) Drop some wizards so they also aim for the interior of the base. It's helpful if CC troops can lure your troops into the base.

5) Deploy your healers 10 tiles behind your wizards so the AD's can't target them. Alternately, you can drop 2 healers initially and save 2 for later.

6) Deploy a few more wizards an then drop a rage spell so that it covers as much of the core as possible while still covering your troops.

7) If you saved 2 healers, deploy them once another AD or two are destroyed.

8) Deploy the rest of the wizards around the base so they target exterior point defenses.

9) Watch the carnage.

Summary: This is a very powerful army with a one hour build time. The DE cost is also about 700-1000, which can easily be made back with one raid. The guide above focuses on bases with semi protected air defenses, with the goal of eliminating any danger to healers before you completely commit. Another strategy is to deploy as much as you can at once in order to break into the the core and destroy air defenses before they kill your healers. This strategy, if successful, tends to 3 star bases much more easily than the strategy above. However, the AI can be tricky so if your wizards or valks go the wrong way, or don't target the air defenses, then you're in trouble. One last thing to note is that I don't usually use my CC. However, balloons, minions, wizards, dragons, and healers are the best to have.

Huge shout-out to Sfer, thanks for all the work you've put into making this thread great.

Reminder that if you want us to test any army comp, please post it!! We enjoy this very much and would love to test them all.

Looking for a good army composition for th7 not trophy pushing just a normal army that gives good results
Currentlyusing 15 giants 2healers 20 goblins 8 wiz 25 archers 5 wallbreakers army capacity 190