How about an option to lock the stuff you are selling unless people help your boat or revive your plants. So many people take your stuff but never help!
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How about an option to lock the stuff you are selling unless people help your boat or revive your plants. So many people take your stuff but never help!
What about people who stop by from the leader board or via the dd? If a farm doesn't need help, they could not buy.
Farms dont always align on their need for help. i have some new friends who never seem to need help. I go to their farms multiple times a day, and can't find a thing to do for them. They have helped me...I feel terrible about the inequity, but what can I do? I just keep hoping one of these days I can repay the favor. Or that they will come buy some good stuff from my farm.
if you have friends or followers who are burdensome, maybe get rid of them and find more even minded friends who play from the same time zone as you do, and followers who have to be involved to maintain follower status. That is a wonderful thing about the last update, we are not stuck with anyone except the folks whom we have helped, and that is temporary.
But I think you should have an option of which items you want to lock, for example you lock the nice items such as building materials that can only be bought if you help ect. Because I sometimes place items in my market to attract people to help but then to lot of the times no one helps.
I don't like this idea. I don't always need help with a boat. I fill my boat myself 90% of the time. Besides, I have over 250 friends and they can't all help me. I want what I sell available to all of them.Quote:
Originally Posted by BeckyM
I did have a few that raided my shop and didn't sell anything in their shop. That's what the unfriend button is for ... they have been unfriended.
Buying your stuff isn't "helping"?
NO! They're just TAKING the stuff and paying for it with money! That's the worst!Quote:
Originally Posted by Holidae
I'm not certain if this was sarcasm but I had a good laugh nevertheless.Quote:
Originally Posted by CheddarLimbo
Thank you.
This comment made me ask myself what the original concept of the game Hay Day was. I am dumbfounded by it so I decided to look up what propaganda Hay Day’s creators used to lure us in.Quote:
Originally Posted by BeckyM
“Get back to nature and experience the peaceful, simple life of working the land and rearing chickens, pigs, cows and sheep. Make a name for yourself by harvesting crops and building bakeries, sugar mills and dairies that turn your fresh produce into wholesome goods you can trade with your friends at your very own Farmer's Market.”
I imagined myself in a market place and stopped by your shop. As I was perusing the options available to me, I saw a sign that said:
“If you do not help me….”pack some creates, water my plants” (fill in the blanks here), you cannot shop here because you not only pay for my goods, you must work for the privilege to pay for my goods.
I think the concept of the game has been lost here. Filling crates and watering the plants for your neighbors is a courtesy, not a requirement within this game. The kindness of some of your neighbors help you to reach your boat achievements, help you gather much needed vouchers, help you get one more crop from your trees and bushes. They do this because they want to not because they have to.
As a real everyday farmer, if I were to make the people that buy my grain get on the combine and harvest it, get in the barn and clean up the cow’s poo, I would have no customers. Not even my friends or family would consider buying my goods and I would be out of business pretty fast and no friends or family who would speak to me again. (I jest here as my family and friends are great but you get the idea).
Not only that, when I do haul my product to the markets, I carry the crates alone, set up my booth and sit there for hours smiling & chatting throughout the long day as people, who have no idea of the work involved in producing that beautiful zucchini they are holding, buy it for a nominal price.
Thankfully Hay Day is a game and there is no poo to clean up (getting kicked in the head because you moved behind the cow and startled her) and harvesting is a breeze, not something that takes you into the dead of night, combining in the dark, and grain dust in your lungs…
But there is nothing like standing in the field with the breeze blowing…I love the farm!
But that’s how I see it….
GC: Goobster1963
Level 48
I also was dumfounded by this post when I first saw it hours ago. After much contemplation on how to respond and coming up with nothing due to being so stunned, I said forget it. Now that Goobster has so eloquently said all I couldn't figure out how to put into words, all I can do is say I agree with Goobster completely.
My opinion may seem rude but if the OP doesn't want to sell to anyone who won't help them first then the OP is playing the wrong game. This is a social, laid back, sharing, give and take if you can type game. YOU play in any style you wish but you have no control whatsoever on the actions or playing styles of other farmers.
If you don't want strangers to buy from your shop without a guarantee that they will help boats or trees first, than don't advertise...you can't force strangers to help you.
If you have friends that you feel aren't helping you as much as you think they should, than unfriend them. No one is forcing you to keep connections with folk you don't feel are sharing a two-way relationship.
If you want to up the chances of someone helping you when they shop, DON'T put anything into your shop UNTIL you have a boat or tree that needs help, and first move all plants in need by the market stall or newspaper where they will be seen immediately, and change your market sign to "please help boat".
I have to agree with Goobster and Cricks. This is supposed to be a fun, laid back game :) I have just over 300 neighbours and it would be impossible for them all to help, just to buy my goods...as I have said many times, whatever I put in my shop, I put out for everyone to buy :) and if you wanna buy everything I'm selling....well, go right ahead :)
Again, people getting all worked up over the items in their road side shop. If you don't want people to buy it, then don't put it in there. You sell to make $$. It's not to hold for some kind of ransom. I always help my friends on their boats, trees, bushes. I don't even care if certain friends don't fill my boat orders, etc. There are ones that always do, and ones that don't. It's a game. get over the drama.
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Originally Posted by Goobster1963
Well said Goobster.
the rewards for filling a boat crate are the coins, XP and boat points, not the "privilege " of BUYING something from the shop. The reward for reviving crops are the XP and points toward the green thumb achievement, not the "privilege " of BUYING something from the shop.
I sell stuff to make room in my shop, sometimes at default, sometimes at Max. For that you get product and I get coins (and room for more stuff).
The rewards for each action are already built into the game--- period. and Once again I say if you want your "stuff" to go to someone special, contact them and arrange a trade. I once decided I needed lots of cash so I held a fire sale. I contacted some players who had helped me with trades or help with the TT or Capt achievement and told them about the sale. Smack in the middle of it someone else noticed the sale and stay to buy stuff too. SO WHAT! We are now good neighbors. That's the name of the game.
I have met some great people here and we stay in "real life" contact by instant message. If i got all bent out of shape worrying about who is buying my stuff, I would be less blessed by their friendship.
Whoa folks- the OP gave an idea that they would like to be implemented into the game- just because it doesn't mesh with how you play the game that doesn't give anyone the right to bash them or "tell them to get over the drama".
This has not been the first thread of this nature and it certainly won't be the last.
If you'd like to continue to post your opinion of their idea great, but anymore of the self righteous sounding posts that border on personal attacks -and not only will this thread be locked- infractions will be given. Everyone is entitled to give their opinions on this forum, I hope the OP isn't driven away by some of these responses.
I think this is a remembrance of all the interaction between Hayders in the General threads. Threads that were considered etiquette threads. I guess it just spilled over here. There is still one under General floating around. All these threads combined surfaced within the last few days, which is making us all feel the negative vibes and wanting to eradicate them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kendra1168
With that said, I think this is a bad idea. If feels a bit discriminatory, because how about if it is low level farm that can not help with boats but like what is in the shop. How about if it is a player that is in a different time zone and can not see when you flag for help. Too many issues to just arbitrarily block someone.
Edit: As with the other threads, the suggestion is to unfriend them. Either through GC or the new feature SC made available to all of us, which is delete them from the follower's tab.
Have you considered that some people don't have the items you need for your boat? I don't have a large barn, so can't stock things in great quantities. I help where I can, but when people need 21 bread, or 17 popcorn, I just don't have the numbers needed.
Hello Kendra,Quote:
Originally Posted by Kendra1168
My post was not meant to bash the OP. Reading the suggestion had me surprised over the intention of the suggestion. It sort of felt to me that the product was held hostage until you did something other than “pay” between default and premium price for the goods. Products are, in fact, locked out to players who have not reached the level to acquire them by Hay Day itself.
I referenced to the fact that since Hay Day touted to experience the peaceful, simple life that the feeling of holding goods captive until you did more than pay the required fee, simply had me rethink the point of the suggestion for the game.
In a game where no animals that are harmed for their bounty – specifically the pigs, which I find hilarious and wish I could go to SC and trim down myself that easily, Hay Day is a game of good nature.
I was neither rude nor disrespectful, simply bringing a different view to the table, looking at it from the buyer’s (players) perspective. Watering trees and filling crates in the river boat are, in my view, a courtesy, as I mentioned. However, not always are the trees that need watering able to be located (if there is an overabundance on the farm) and not always can a neighbor help because they simply do not have the goods in their barn to fill the crate. Should that neighbor not be able to buy from the shop because of that? This was my point.
There was no drama. I simply made a comment from a different perspective.
Goobster1963
Can I just say, not everyone who goes to your shop is taking advantage of you?? Many a time I have been working like mad to fill a crate for someones boat, and someone else gets there first (leaving me with a hell of a lot of bread etc!!). Sometimes people ARE trying to help and thats life - it sometimes doesnt happen - its a game, and supposed to be fun - plus if someone buys from your farm shop surely you are benefitting - they are using coins from their game balance to pay you??? Also as someone who is relatively new to the game, I havent actually got the hang of finding random people who need help... if I go on someones shop and see they have the exclamation mark above their avatar I will scan around the farm and see where they need help and if I can I will!
I think the title is throwing people off. I think friends only crates would be a nice addition. It would make helping and trading a lot easier.
Hi,Quote:
Originally Posted by drdolittle
Yes - this is definitely an spill over from the recent etiquette threads - it just has no business in a thread with an idea. Now of course I'm saying once again we can all give our opinions on someone's idea, but when a simple given idea turns into yet another etiquette thread, that's where mods step in.
Hi,Quote:
Originally Posted by Goobster1963
Thanks for you reply, the good news is that if your post was neither rude nor disrespectful, and had no mention of the word drama, then my post wasn't referencing yours.
Happy farming,
Kendra
I honestly don't agree with this for many reasons. Placing goodies in your shop enables any of your neighbors to buy them whether you like it or not. Trust me, I use to feel sort of the same way the OP felt but I wasn't serious about it because I had other choices, like not placing goodies in our shop while we flag our crates for help.
I've been in the shoes of a neighbor who wanted to help but couldn't because my neighbor wanted something I didn't have, like a gazillion bags of sugar. But something nice and shiny, something I needed was there in their shop so I bought it because once it's placed in your shop, it's a free for all, lol.
But if the same people keep on raiding and never helping, you should remove them, don't stress over it and game on. :)
I understand where OP is coming from, but I think it'll kill a lot of the farmers' markets. Suddenly everyone will mark their items with that feature and that will kill the trade. No items will be available and it'll make the "market" redundant. I quite frankly think that it's incredibly childish to demand people's help before wanting to sell them items. As Goobster1963 so nicely puts it, it seems a little extreme to not only demand pay for the items - but also demand people to work for the "privilege" of paying for them.
people spend money for your stuff ... so i think its help too ... another idea would be that we can make special offers for the people who help ... like offers that only people can buy who helped us ...
It seems ridiculous that you would expect everyone that buys from you to help fill your boats. I play the game for me, not for the way others think I can help them. If I am able to fill a boat order I do - not for the joy of helping someone else, for the fact that I earn coins, points and might get a thank you letter with some cards in it. I put up things for others to fill because I either don't have the ability to make it or have other things already in the machines needed. I don't really care what others think, if they want to help they can and if they don't they don't have to. If they don't like it - unfriend me - I can find others who play the game like I do in a second.Quote:
Originally Posted by Goobster1963
If I come to your farm cause it says you need help and then the things you are asking for help on are things I can't even make yet, does that mean that I then can't buy from your market? This is really a moot point as I hardly ever buy from others markets because I only buy if I NEED something, which I hardly ever do cause I make my own. That is the point of the market, not to buy stuff and make a profit. In fact, sometimes I won't even buy if I need it because it costs more to buy it and put it in my crates than I will even make off the crate. Kind of silly don't you think? And I read another thread where someone got mad because they go to help with a crate and there is nothing in the market to buy. How crazy is that? I put things in my market if my barn or silo get full and I need the room, not on the off chance that someone else might want it. If someone wants it, great. If not, no biggie. Why get all bent out of shape over a game?
I like it when people dig up old threads.
It shows some folks actually search, scan, and scroll.
I so agree with Goobster, Cricks, and Bear. However, I'm finding it difficult to respond as eloquently and in as non-confrontational of a way as they have done. So...
I do my best to help as many as I can. However, normally, I just won't fill a boat crate with the 10-pancakes that I have worked so hard to manufacture for my boat order for 10-pancakes AND I don't expect my shoppers or neighbors to put my needs above their own.
In addition, it seems a bit self-superior to judge and try to dictate how others use their game-playing time. If a "farmer" has 10 minutes to tend their farm, they might feel that filling their own orders is a priority to helping someone else maintain and supply their farm, only to be allowed to spend their hard earned cash to fill the other's bank account.
It it appears that it's time for this op to take a deep breathe, take a chill pill, and "step away" from the farm. Remember, it's a game...just a game. If it becomes a power struggle, the enjoyment slips away. Have fun!
We put up things in shop because we want to sell to others. And others buy.
People cannot be forced to help. Helping is done as per willingness.
Imagine yourself in a farm where 10 mallets, 10 stakes, 10 deeds, 10 planks, 10 bolts, 10 tapes, 10 screws, 10 panels, 10 nails, 10 of all rare items BUT all are locked because you did not help. And the boat order is something that you cannot help. You will miss out on all those good items.