Clan War Matchmaking Improvements

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Originally Posted by MisterOz

A "war record" should play no part in matching. That's like "everyone is equal" garbage. And we will match you harder and less equal until finally you lose bwahahahahahahahahahaaaa and everyone will be equal whether you like it or not.

Imagine SC doing the boxing match making. Sorry Mr Featherweight, we think you are winning too much, here, fight this heavyweight.

That's what it's like

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agreed :thumbsup:

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Originally Posted by MisterOz

A "war record" should play no part in matching. That's like "everyone is equal" garbage. And we will match you harder and less equal until finally you lose bwahahahahahahahahahaaaa and everyone will be equal whether you like it or not.

Imagine SC doing the boxing match making. Sorry Mr Featherweight, we think you are winning too much, here, fight this heavyweight.

That's what it's like.

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Very true, I hadn't thought about it like that.

When the update come??

THANKS !! Well we just lost last war coz of Engineered base.

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Originally Posted by MisterOz

They have Five extra TH10s. Their bottom TH10 who is my mirror just for example, has 35/39 heroes. I am not sure where this hero advantage is, you think we have. Certainly none of our five outmatched TH9 have heroes in the high 30s and even 40, to equal their TH10s. And all their TH10 bases are maxed defensively.

The TH11s are comparable. Their top 5 10s match ours. Their 9s match ours. There are no engineered bases on either side. No point fives. Legit bases on both sides. Except they have 5 extra fully maxed TH10s. So, lets see..... they get 20 x TH10 attacks we get 10. That's not a fair or equitable match in any way, shape or form.

A "war record" should play no part in matching. That's like "everyone is equal" garbage. And we will match you harder and less equal until finally you lose bwahahahahahahahahahaaaa and everyone will be equal whether you like it or not.

Imagine SC doing the boxing match making. Sorry Mr Featherweight, we think you are winning too much, here, fight this heavyweight.

That's what it's like.

I am encouraged by the "we are working on it" post though.

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Will vouch for this war since I was in it too, really was a head scratcher.

Yes, normally with a match like that you'll see a big hero advantage, or they have a load of .5s so they're not really th10s.

Nope. Top 9 pretty identical, same goes for bottom 10....but in the middle, 5 max th10 vs 5 max 9s.

As it turned out, they were a really good clan as well, so it was unwinnable.
Has to be one of the worst matches I've ever seen, considering there was no roster or base manipulation in sight from either side. No allowances, no hero vs inferno trade offs....just straight mismatch of crippling proportions.

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Originally Posted by MisterOz

A "war record" should play no part in matching. That's like "everyone is equal" garbage. And we will match you harder and less equal until finally you lose bwahahahahahahahahahaaaa and everyone will be equal whether you like it or not.

Imagine SC doing the boxing match making. Sorry Mr Featherweight, we think you are winning too much, here, fight this heavyweight.

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I've heard this rhetoric before a few times, and understand the frustration. However... overtime, I've come to the conclusion that the 'recent war performance' checkbox was actually implemented to help the losing clans in the main, not penalise the winning ones in particular.
Just my opinion of course...very subjective! It just makes more sense to me, which in turn probably lessens its validity!!!XD

Well, on that war record thing, I will disagree with MisterOZ.

Purely because....how could that thinking apply to the opponent?
We were on a 5 streak, them on 4.

Is 5 the magic number where they start allowing big weight disadvantages? Cos the clan on a 4 streak found themselves in an 'un-losable' match, which does rather go against the point they're making.

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Originally Posted by Skrags

I've heard this rhetoric before a few times, and understand the frustration. However... overtime, I've come to the conclusion that the 'recent war performance' checkbox was actually implemented to help the losing clans in the main, not penalise the winning ones in particular.
Just my opinion of course...very subjective! It just makes more sense to me, which in turn probably lessens its validity!!!XD

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That does make sence but continually matching clans that don't perform so well will just lead to an even bigger difference in skill level. For any clan wanting to progress always great to come against someone better than yours. Perfect opportunity to get new base design ideas & 1st hand experience of the current meta(s).

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Originally Posted by Skrags

I've heard this rhetoric before a few times, and understand the frustration. However... overtime, I've come to the conclusion that the 'recent war performance' checkbox was actually implemented to help the losing clans in the main, not penalise the winning ones in particular.
Just my opinion of course...very subjective! It just makes more sense to me, which in turn probably lessens its validity!!!XD

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XD funny, but I'll reply anyway

yes, it helps the losing clans, but it also penalises the winning ones. that's not different than, in a fps game, giving better guns to the less skilled players

come on everybody, skilled players win and unskilled players lose, it has always been like this, everywhere

Wouldn't the simplest solution be to just adjust the war rankings by TH level?

IE - the lowest TH10 will always be ranked above the highest TH9, 9>8, 8>7, etc.

This would take the heavily engineered bases from the bottom of the lineup and actually be a disadvantage.

But it wouldn't hurt casually rushed or X.5 bases since most casually rushed bases grab the shiny new defenses (x bows and ITs) and the X.5s are typically maxed before going up.