Clan War Matchmaking Improvements

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Originally Posted by SystematicChaos

The whole problem started because rather than telling to people to not rush their bases, supercell tried to encourage different play styles. Which is understandable. But now that the flaws have been pointed out and supercell seems to have no solution, may be it's time to rethink this. Because, it's clearly a failure. The casual rushed players, they are doomed anyway because they are matching engineers now.

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every aspect of the game has told players to not rush, clan leaders have explained it adnausium to new players and those who could still fix it but those guys don't have the discipline to listen much less the stamina and discipline to build wise

Problem is they want it all now walls take too much time and get boring........ well ill tell you I was just a little incised when they lowered the cost of walls that change after I had all my walls at 10 and half the 11s devalued my wall work by almost half of the total gold i had raided like about 400,000,000 do you know how many gems it cost just boosting to raid that much gold..... SO I HAVE NOTHING BUT CONTEMPT FOR THE RUSHED and all the criers to be coddled through their poor choicest and get participation trophies

Awesome to hear that they feel as though they are getting close enough to this to be able to tell us. Thanks Darian.

#hope

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Originally Posted by Kraven001

Its not how the game was meant to be played. Not building or upgrading available defenses for a given TH is, IMO, a perversion of how the game can be played but without the war factor they wouldn't exsist.

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IMO= IN MY OPINION
So your opinion of how the game should be played should be yours alone and not interfere with my opinion of how to play.
as I alluded to in a prior post the game is a labyrinth of decisions some that could lead to a harder longer path. this is the game i wish to play regardless of what monsters my lie in the bushes . Those who want a step by step map IMHO are not seeking the same adventure and test of skills.

Dear Darian,

You would be doing the community a huge favor just by being upfront with all. You know very well that maxing a base is not optimum for war. No matter how many tricks you guys make, a maxed base will never, ever, give anyone fair wars. You know this.

What do "play styles" have to do with anything? A balanced game does not have "play styles" (maxing or defenseless enginearing). The only reason the defenseless base has such an impact in wars is because MM was not balanced. Yes, there is a balance. But that balance is neither in maxing nor "engineering" a base. You know this.

So why not just explain this to the community? You know very well that in a game where each base is under "construction", neither maxing nor engineer is optimum.

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Originally Posted by iBork

Dear Darian,

You would be doing the community a huge favor just by being upfront with all. You know very well that maxing a base is not optimum for war. No matter how many tricks you guys make, a maxed base will never, ever, give anyone fair wars. You know this.

What do "play styles" have to do with anything? A balanced game does not have "play styles" (maxing or defenseless enginearing). The only reason the defenseless base has such an impact in wars is because MM was not balanced. Yes, there is a balance. But that balance is neither in maxing nor "engineering" a base. You know this.

So why not just explain this to the community? You know very well that in a game where each base is under "construction", neither maxing nor engineer is optimum.

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Actually maxed bases are optimum for war. Imagine 20 v 20 all maxed both sides. Can't get fairer than that.

The only reason people started to exploit the system and the whole engineering idea was evolved is because there was no offense/defense balance...10V10 and 11V11 is practically impossible to 3 star with fairplay style...therefore people started to just upgrade the offense to have the "upper hand" in wars...if there was a good balance in the game (meaning stronger troops and better offensive power) so that 3 stars could become viable at all TH levels...there would have been less tendency to develop lopsided bases

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Originally Posted by crazywolf

Actually maxed bases are optimum for war. Imagine 20 v 20 all maxed both sides. Can't get fairer than that.

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Yes, all clan have maxed bases. No one ever upgrades. They just stay maxed TH8, or 9, or 10, or 11 forever.

Great news thnx,

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Originally Posted by HavanaWoody

IMO= IN MY OPINION
So your opinion of how the game should be played should be yours alone and not interfere with my opinion of how to play.
as I alluded to in a prior post the game is a labyrinth of decisions some that could lead to a harder longer path. this is the game i wish to play regardless of what monsters my lie in the bushes . Those who want a step by step map IMHO are not seeking the same adventure and test of skills.

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Engineering is causing people to play the game their way to stay competitive in wars, so first point negates itself.

Harder longer path is subjective, what might be hard for one person could be fun for another. The challenge...so negates itself.

Its not just your opinion, it's very apparent we have different ways to "experience the adventure" but don't be rude before you check out your own logic on yourself. My arguments are based on game design and what appears to be the proper way to play the game (builder hut has suggested upgrades before it suggests the TH for instance)

unless this war MM change has engineering folks posting/talking about how they've lost their advantage in war and how's its not fair than I won't believe it's really doing anything....might as well remove suggested upgrades or teach everyone how to engineer with the suggestions....just saying. Give suggested upgraders the advantage....

Seems to me that war has morphed into something that SC just don't know exactly how to proceed further on.can the development team expand the parameters of the game ? Why not just give more options for war ( perks give better options ) and let the leaders choose, the losers can only blame the leader for choosing the war and leave SC mm out of it . just my 2 cents