Clan War Matchmaking Improvements

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Originally Posted by iBork

So you have been making tweaks and balances on the background with no announcement of what was changed? Why do you think that is not important to communicate? When you makes changes to the game, you announce it so we know what to expect. Why is MM not treated the same?



Define "engineered base". Is .5 engineered? Is a base that is mid upgrade from one th to another engineered? Where do you draw the line?

You guys really need to better communicate with your PAYING customers.

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With respect to the first part about no announcements or lack of communication about matchmaker tweaks i sorta relate that to their constant update and changing of the octupus to wage war on the mods, frustrating to players but for the greater good of the game. However, this clearly needs an answer or clarification SC definition of engineered as it relates to matchmaker. I am not for one side or the other here related to engineering, I play this game to reach current end game th 11 and enjoy all 3 aspects of clash,farming,pushing and warring and via upgrades i engineer my base to try and do all 3 realistically. Without firm facts as a new th 10 where will be the line between offense and defense upgrades that might make me and my clan thru upgrade choices engineered. Current meta says limit splash and focus on point, dont drop new defenses has that changed as weights get tinkered with.....Again, i am not looking for SC to tell me how to 100% upgrade my base but a little better info on how certain upgrades both offense and defensively may or will change my war weight, something that imo needs improvemant on so people can be or make better and informed choices...

Guys what did you expect? That all defenseless bases get banned or are counted as a max th11? Matching with clans with similar offense/defense ratio as one additional factor is the best you will get. Get over it: Defenseless bases are not the huge advantage everybody thinks.

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Originally Posted by strandwolfza

how do you know that it isn't the other way around? ;)

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I'm guessing the identical forum post didn't precede the in game news. But does it matter? It wasn't particularly illuminating either way. Just a whole page that could be said in a sentence. "We're working on it."

Obviously we need to see how this pans out, but this news has delighted me.

Engineers to be matched with engineers, and vice versa with standard bases.

Ideal.

the finely tuned engineered clans with a defenceless TH11 at the bottom of the roster where a TH8 should be can now fight it out with other clans with the same set-up

us standard plebs can now enjoy war a little more

If they published the details of the war matchmaking system, and made that part open source, and even publish a few extensive datasets of war logs (w/ each players troops levels and base building counts), the community would bend over backwards finding ways to optimize the weightings so as to ensure fair matchups.
I've recently been working some with R-script to optimize weighting for a certain scoring function, using Kendall's tau, which is precisely what should be done here. I'd love to have a crack at that data and help make war matching making great (again?)

If this does what it sounds like it does - then us rushers might finally be able to war and stop being looked at like a burden to the clan? I'd LOVE to go against other rushers!!!!

What I understand from the information that Darian gave us is that the new matchmaking system will create more parameters then the old system. This means that it is possible to better match clans because you are matching on more criteria. Each parameter can later be fine-tuned.

This does not automatically mean that searches take longer. It only means that clans will be matched based on more criteria. It seems that one important criteria that will be used in the query is an enginering factor of some sort. We will have to see how well this will work out. I guess that a clan with only balanced bases, with a relative small variation in strength will always give the best match since most bases are somewhat balanced. Taking a clan to war with 3 or less TH levels will be ideal to get the best match.

I missed this (how could I it being at the top of the forum!!)

I say bravo. About time. Put like with like, the finely tuned clans can now battle wit each other.


Ideal.

I've just noticed the thread at the top! Sorry for the new thread please merge as required.

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Originally Posted by Jesterdeath

Obviously we need to see how this pans out, but this news has delighted me.

Engineers to be matched with engineers, and vice versa with standard bases.



Ideal.

the finely tuned engineered clans with a defenceless TH11 at the bottom of the roster where a TH8 should be can now fight it out with other clans with the same set-up

us standard plebs can now enjoy war a little more

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Agreed. A very nice solution if that's how it goes. Unfortunately, we already have engineers up in arms about the concept.

Very curious. They will get to fight it out with those who share their incredible insight, brilliant strategy, and amazing, otherworldly skills.

Strange indeed.