Clan War Matchmaking Improvements

I don't envy the position that SuperCell is in as far at match making but this is getting ridiculous. Here's our latest matchup:

US THEM
1. TH11 TH11
2. TH10 TH10
3. TH10 TH10
4. TH10 TH10
5. TH10 TH11
6. TH10 TH10
7. TH9 TH10
8. TH9 TH10
9. TH9 TH8
10. TH9 TH11 (defenseless w/ warden and max camps/troops)

It almost feels like King/Queen are weighted way too heavy now, warden next to nothing and obviously the troops you have and their level must not mean allot either. This defenseless guy at the bottom has the whole arsenal and weighs less than a th8. At this point, I'd much rather take my chance at just pulling an equal number of town hall levels (if I have one th11, they have one th11) vs this weight guessing game. Or perhaps give greater weight to the town hall level itself? My understanding was we were supposed to pull clans that "play they way we do", but were are a bunch of guys trying to max their bases at each th and continue to face 3,4 and 5 th11s.

If anyone cares to analyze, I've put the full details of our current war in the requested table format over on Darian's thread in Clan Wars... https://forum.supercell.com/showthre...1#post11064854

Our clan has faced considerably more engineers (we are not engineered at all) since they started to tweak the MM system than we were before.

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Originally Posted by fifaworld2

Our clan has faced considerably more engineers (we are not engineered at all) since they started to tweak the MM system than we were before.

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Us too in the last few months in particular but maybe detecting very recent improvement.

It's weird that I see an engineered base about once in 30 or more "nexts" while raiding... but all the time in war (where are those guys hiding?)

Its possible that very recent changes will help... need more data to tell. We don't engineer but we do start a wide range of TH levels which probably makes us look engineered.

Another war another ridiculous matchup. Th11s sitting at the bottom of the lineup coming up and three starting our #2. Darian when do you think Supercell can figure out this new matchmaker? Getting really bored of terrible war matchups.

I tried to do the opposite of everything advised in this thread. I selected 10v10, put engineers, point fives, roster engineered, all the things guaranteed to result in 24 hour search and a terrible match.

We had a match in 20 minutes. Similar clan, some engineers, very even matchup. Looking at it I could tell right away it would come down to the last star. Looked like tied perfect war was a real possibility.

Their number one TH11 max troops no eagle no infernoes.
Their number two was a maxed TH9
then three TH 10s with no infernoes.

Down low they had one full engineered 10.
Two smurfs.

Our anchor was three well developed 9.5s. Down low we had a full engineered 11. Four smurfs.

I figure we can 3star 9 of them, 2star their 1. 29.

We need one of our 9.5 to pull through without giving up the last star. Then we can match for total damage.

Good match. I love the new MM.

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Originally Posted by Oshbeegosh

It's weird that I see an engineered base about once in 30 or more "nexts" while raiding... but all the time in war (where are those guys hiding?)
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Down in silver.

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Originally Posted by Tominator2

Have all the rushers quit. We used to match quickly with clans that were rushed now no matches at all.

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i have a feeling clan record or even player war stars are mixed into the algorithm. Pre update, we used to get a range of clans, some good players, some not so good. We held our own and had about an 85% win rate.

After the update, yes we got bad match ups, but man, they were all a bunch of super star players. War stars out of their ears, 2282 being the highest but routinely 1600 plus. Only after we lost a whole bunch of wars did we start seeing more "normal" people.

on the bright side, we did get to see how it's meant to be done, but it had a masochistic feel to it lol.

On overall basis, uur last 5 wars have been fair. Lost 2 (including one by 0.2%) , won 3. We run 10 v 10. We have engineered bases in our clan but these 5 wars had no engineered bases included. However I am seeing roster engineering a lot with 2-3 Th3-5 bases in the bottom giving an advantage at the top to the enemy clan. But usually their heroes are not high level and it helps us.

I agree that AQ and BK are heavily weighed compared to GW. It is stupid.

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Originally Posted by PapaTroll

I tried to do the opposite of everything advised in this thread. I selected 10v10, put engineers, point fives, roster engineered, all the things guaranteed to result in 24 hour search and a terrible match.

We had a match in 20 minutes. Similar clan, some engineers, very even matchup. Looking at it I could tell right away it would come down to the last star. Looked like tied perfect war was a real possibility.

Their number one TH11 max troops no eagle no infernoes.
Their number two was a maxed TH9
then three TH 10s with no infernoes.

Down low they had one full engineered 10.
Two smurfs.

Our anchor was three well developed 9.5s. Down low we had a full engineered 11. Four smurfs.

I figure we can 3star 9 of them, 2star their 1. 29.

We need one of our 9.5 to pull through without giving up the last star. Then we can match for total damage.

Good match. I love the new MM.

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yes of course it worked - because your clan is engineered too.