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Engineering has killed the game. People do not try to be a good attaker they just try to make an easy match. Loosing is part of any game but people only think about how to easily win every war. The only solution is, you only go for war if you drop the new defenses. Not the best scenario IMO but it would kill engineering so, I would be ok with this way.
War record 348-74-6
Still not seeing the "IMPROVEMENT" here, been outmatched offensively & defensively just about every war and only won a few since new update due to bad attackers but todays war omg. 11 x th11s vs our 2, 7 th10s vs our 3, they 3 starred all our bases multiple times over and yes we have good attackers & base designs, not cookie cutter ♥♥. We will hopefully get a tie but foresee coming up 1 star short maybe 2 yet again. Frustrating this is getting and ive lost another long time player due to it. Good luck clashers looks like it may be time to put coc to rest.
https://forum-content.supercell.com/...quote_icon.png Originally Posted by Bigtone2001 https://forum-content.supercell.com/...post-right.png
https://forum-content.supercell.com/...quote_icon.png Originally Posted by Bigtone2001
War #11 (30v30)
Us
1-12 TH11 with EA.
13-23 TH10 with inferno.
24-26 TH10 no inferno
27-30 TH9
Them
1-12 TH11 with EA
13-14 TH11 no EA, Max Heroes & Troops
15 TH11 no EA, Max K&Q, 13 GW, Bowlers, Valks, Healer, Rage, Jump, Heal Maxed.
16-18 TH10 with inferno
19 TH11 no EA, lv8 GW, Maxed Witch, Bowler, Valk, Jump, Heal, Rage.
20-26 TH10 with inferno
27 TH10 no inferno
28-29 TH9
30 TH8
So, yet another mis match, atleast this time we are only outnumbered by 4 TH11s.
C'mon Darian, this is getting ridiculous. Out of 11 Wars under the new algorithm, we have been matched against Engineers a total of 9 times, and the lowest number of TH11s we have been down is 4. We've even had a TH11 with Max heroes and Troops mirrored against a TH9.
Our matches have been far worse under the new MM.
Result : 71 (80.4) v 66 (83.57) WIN for Us
War #12
Us
1-11 TH11 with EA
12-19 TH10 with inferno
20-22 TH10 no inferno
23-25 TH9
Them
1-14 TH11 with EA
15 TH10 with inferno
16 TH11 no inferno or EA, Max Heroes + most troops maxed
17 TH11 no inferno or EA, Max Q+W + most troops maxed
18 TH11 no inferno or EA, lv2 W, only valks maxed
19 TH10 no inferno
20 TH11 (th9 defences), Max Heroes + most troops maxed
21 TH10 no inferno
22 TH9
23 TH11 (TH7 defences except 1 inferno), Max loons, lv3 hound, lv6 warden lv5 k+Q
24 TH8
25 TH7
Clearly Engineered Clan (both individually and roster)
They have 3 extra EAs. 8 extra Wardens, 6+ lots of maxed troops.
OK, we have a defence advantage lower down, but they have advantage at top, and offence advantage.
So this is 10 out of 12 on the new MM where we have been out numbered on TH11 bases.
Here's what I want from SC's MM algorithm: a matchup against a similar level clan (+or- one level) with close to the same number of wins and trophies (+or- say, 10%). I think that if that matches the rest falls in place...
I think base design and attacking ability will always be wild cards in the MM algorithm. Once the matchups are fairly equal (e.g. level10 clan vs level 10 with say 130 wins vs 140 wins) it becomes up to you to design a better base or practice your attacks more if you're not happy with the outcomes... just saying.
Clan level shouldn't be taken into account and wins shouldn't either. Definitely trophies shouldn't matter, unless you are talking about a new war trophy system, then I would agree. Trophies gained on multiplayer have nothing to do with war strength.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark0
A novel idea, invert the algorithm. Make the War MM only look at offence.
At the end of the day, if you have Max TH11 troops, you should be able to atleast 2* a maxed TH11 base.
At the end of the day you get 2 attacks.
so someone with Max TH11 troops and heroes should be able to 3* a Max TH10 if they attack well.
so they could get 6 stars in war.
even if they have th8 defences, they are only going to give up 3 stars.
until SC realise this, engineered bases. (TH 8/9/10) with Max TH11 troops will always have the advantage.
Interesting idea with inverting the MM mechanism ... That I'd like to see! Can only imagine how many engineers would winge about maxers having an 'unfair advantage'.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bigtone2001
So far nearly a 3rd of my clan has quit completely due to the engineer/mod/MM issue and many more (myself included) becoming barely active. Only positive of ♥♥♥ doing nothing to resolve the issue I guess though is that eventually it will resolve itself ... Will just be engineered clans left playing so they will always be matched against one another.
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Originally Posted by Bigtone2001
So I make a base with only one good offensive troop and maxed out defenses we have the same problem but in reverse.Quote:
Originally Posted by zerihal
There has got to be a way to take into account both the offense AND defense for a proper match.Quote:
Originally Posted by 2222