Clan War Matchmaking Improvements

This is what has become so frustrating about wars...that you feel you are forced to upgrade or convince others to engineer just to equal the playing field. Forced to create mini accounts that are engineered, forced to recruit engineered bases and upgrade down a certain path. Yes ppl can upgrade how they want, but to tell your clanmates sorry dont finish your current th upgrades we need your offense upgraded so we can gain back some advantage. Just should not be that way, but I too have had those convos with my clanmates. Dont get me wrong, happy to see SC finally trying to address it, but feels like the fix just made it worse for some clans.

I have never had an issue with the matchmaking system until recently. It is worse now. I am playing with a group of friends who play this for fun but engineers are spamming clans that make a tie or a loss guaranteed. It's sad because we clearly have better attackers and defenders than the other clans and we lose. We had 1 clan recently with 5 th11s, th10, and rest th9s vs our 1 th11, 3 th10s, 2 th9s, and rest th8s.

This weighing system needs a complete overhaul. Offense/defense balance should be rewarded. Offense and defense should be independent weights where and the overall weight should rise if offense is intentionally built more defense and the weight should also rise if the defense is intentionally built much faster than the offense. Manipulating stats doesn't seem to be what this game was originally built for. Why did you allow it for so long?

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Originally Posted by SoldierNumber2178281828

I have never had an issue with the matchmaking system until recently. It is worse now. I am playing with a group of friends who play this for fun but engineers are spamming clans that make a tie or a loss guaranteed. It's sad because we clearly have better attackers and defenders than the other clans and we lose. We had 1 clan recently with 5 th11s, th10, and rest th9s vs our 1 th11, 3 th10s, 2 th9s, and rest th8s.

This weighing system needs a complete overhaul. Offense/defense balance should be rewarded. Offense and defense should be independent weights where and the overall weight should rise if offense is intentionally built more defense and the weight should also rise if the defense is intentionally built much faster than the offense. Manipulating stats doesn't seem to be what this game was originally built for. Why did you allow it for so long?

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The TH should hold the majority of the weight imo but SC will not do that because engineers spent Lotsa $$$ on gems.SC fair play policy is a joke,"unfair advantage" any layman can see engineered clans have this unfair advantage.

This war we just lost, Our 7 th11s to 19 th11s of which 10 enginnered but that's not an unfair advantage or is it SC?.Pisses me right off 😒

Any other clans experiencing MORE engineered clans since the update? I'm in two clans and half our wars since the update are against engineered. "Doh!-Nation" being the most recent.

It's absolutely worst. We are now in a 15/15 war with a heavily engineered clan and we don't even have one engineered village. They have 5 th11 with maxed heroes and we only have one th11. Ridiculous.

Heroes need to be placed in the equation. As well as troops.

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Originally Posted by mschower

It's absolutely worst. We are now in a 15/15 war with a heavily engineered clan and we don't even have one engineered village. They have 5 th11 with maxed heroes and we only have one th11. Ridiculous.

Heroes need to be placed in the equation. As well as troops.

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Same here,we started a 25v25 war and have 1 max th10 and 1 just upgraded th10 base,4 max and 5 th9 bases which just got upgraded,1 th8,2 th7 and rest th6 and below bases.All are either maxed or just got upgraded in the war from our clan.

We have been getting heavily engineered clans for the war.The current war has 7 th11s!!Their 20th player is 3 starring our 2nd and 3rd bases and our th10 max is having trouble 3 starring their almost max th11 bases.The only thing the top th11 bases are missing is eagle artillery.This is the same story with previous wars too.Its like we are being punished for playing fairly.

What justification can sc give on the coding which they have been working for a while and which is matching th7 and 6s to maxed (troops,teslas and cc) th11 bases!We are stopping the clan wars until sc realeases another update patch that would fix this problem.We also dont know if we should play the upcoming 4x bonus event as it might only lead to draining our resources and the engineered clans will reap all the benefits from the war.

Hope they fix this soon.

Matchmaking is a lot worse for our clan since the recent algorithm change. We are seeing many lopsided bases in the enemy clans with TH11 half way down the war map or TH10 at the bottom of map; being matched against our TH9 and TH8 respectively.

Our clan feel let down by supercell, engineering has been around for ages and supercell have been so slow to repsonsd.There seem to be many simple ideas on the forums that would improve the matchmaking compared to what we are currently seeing.

I guess we have to be patient and see what cracks first, supercell's resolve to change or the players that feel like quitting.

So if the matchmaker is matching engineered clans verses other engineer, anyway we can get a in-game notification maybe a yellow flag on our th, letting us know if the matchmaker is flagging us as engineered? That way everyone will know and can fix it if they want to. It's gonna be a pain policing everyones base to see if they've not maxed something at a prevous th level.

There are more engineers than ever out there. Naturally we will encounter them more often.
New mma assesses a slightly higher score against engineers. It is just a number. There is no "engineer" flag.
If you are waiting for supercell to resolve the strategic difficulty of winning against a clan with engineers you are on the wrong path.
Concentrate on the options you have at hand within your own clan.
There is no rule against two of your current clanmates starting a second account and engineering the check out of it. Or go to point five on the next level.
You want a level playing field? Stop hobbling yourselves with arbitrary, inefficient and ineffective upgrade orders just for the pride point of saying "we have no point fives."

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Originally Posted by PapaTroll

There are more engineers than ever out there. Naturally we will encounter them more often.
New mma assesses a slightly higher score against engineers. It is just a number. There is no "engineer" flag.
If you are waiting for supercell to resolve the strategic difficulty of winning against a clan with engineers you are on the wrong path.
Concentrate on the options you have at hand within your own clan.
There is no rule against two of your current clanmates starting a second account and engineering the check out of it. Or go to point five on the next level.
You want a level playing field? Stop hobbling yourselves with arbitrary, inefficient and ineffective upgrade orders just for the pride point of saying "we have no point fives."

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Yep, smart clans will adapt. Dumb clans will keep whining.