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Hi guys do you know the troop composition for hghb and hphb? Been reading through articles and suggestions online but couldn't find troops composition and what base best for both attacks. If can upload pics or i visit you gangs profile for attacks walk through.
Thanks.
It depends...there isn't one set, generally agreed upon, troop set.
Our "in general" composition for HGHB is
4 healers, 10 giants, 1 baby, 7 wiz, 15 hogs, 1 arch, 2 rage, 2 heal 2 poison, bowlers in CC
However, at times, especially against ~max TH9s, we'll bring a jump. In that scenario, I often tend to bring less giants (because less walls to bang through) and more hogs.
HPHB (in general army)
3 healer, 3 pekka, 7 wiz, 11 hog, 2 baby
2 rage, 2 heal, 2 poison, CC bowlers
note that, especially when executing war attacks, you should always look for ways to be more efficient. For instance, if you can funnel either attack with a few, say, minions, instead of, say, baby drag, make the change and increase the hog count. Loons can often be nasty against unprotected, ground defenses
Ok can you walk through me what troops to deploy first? Do you have to kill the KS and Q before deployment of troops? What happens if you have a hard cc pull?Quote:
Originally Posted by Lunaticfringe
In general, giants first, then healers. HGHB can be utterly dominant at TH9 if you can enter the base with all defenses targeting the group of giants & get a solid bowler funnelQuote:
Originally Posted by Kinsman11
However, having all defenses target one group of giants isn't often the case, so a baby is there to distract a AT/WT or over a cannon or whatever.
Use wiz to help funnel with baby (if needed).
Once giants get close to breaking through initial wall (if applicable), AQ and CC. I tend to drop BK later/last, as he can often get ahead of the giants easy and the healers switch to him which is annoying as all hell. Healer AI is really bad right now, which is a different discussion, but something you need to consider.
In any case, rage KS and hopefully bowlers. Bowlers are a monster to funnel, harder than any other troop imo by a country mile (I love how they often just fan out for reasons that defy logic). You need to give those tools no other choice, in terms of target/funnel, lest you might lose some/all to circling the base and then the power of HGHB is greatly reduced.
Let your KS work some, then rage KS again, generally when first rage wears off or, more commonly, they've moved through it. Hopefully the KS is reaching the core of the base (if so, you're almost home free).
Unlike GiHeHo, hogs on HGHB require patience. You often only have ~15, so it isn't like you will just clear the base with hogs and heals. You generally want to bring them in after the KS has torched a lot of the base.
Seldom, if ever, pull the CC on HGHB. Ideally, you want the CC pulled at/around the point you are dropping your rage on your KS, so a hard-to-pull CC is often perfect. Use your L5/CC poison on enemy CC and your other poison on things like AQ, BK or skellie traps. An all loon CC (L7 loons had nasty initial drop damage) used to be really eyebrow raising for HGHB, at times, as the initial drop would just torch all the giants (i.e. couldn't heal through it). Since the loon nerf, however, this isn't nearly as risky. I'd say a CC with 3 valks can, at times, mess with your giants if you don't get rage/poison down fast enough
Note that enemy heroes can cause your bowlers to go awry when funneling (or, if centralized heroes) can help pull bowlers in.
Since the range of your troops coming to the aide of other troops you control getting attacked has been reduced to the size of a Cheerio, it's not anywhere near a guarantee that your bowlers will funnel well, it still can help/hurt
Your best bet is to just YouTube HGHB attacks and watch them
HPHG is almost the exact same attack, except you use baby drags (or whatever) to funnel your pekkas at the beginning of the attack (if needed--sometimes you can just drop your pekkas straight into a wall or whatever with no funneling needed before dropping them). It can be extremely potent, but it's generally a slower attack and you'd be surprised how much difference 3 to 4 healers make. You also have less hogs, which means the KS has to do more work (which they tend to, as pekkas just pound, especially under rage).
I love both and think they are 2 of the absolute best attacks you can execute at TH9, but I tend to give the edge to HGHB in terms of which is stronger, in general.