Lightning spell vs. dark Elixir storage

well, I only just realised that there were duplicate threads lying around and since the discussion on this one seemed more lively...

My issues with this strategy is that it's dumbing down the game for both sides- the defender doesn't even get a chance to do anything about the lightning spells, while the attacker is brainlessly clicking next, dropping 3 spells and running away. Someone made a comparison earlier to dropping dragons; I would like to say that the comparison is absolutely incompatible. There will always be certain strategies that are strong at different levels- think pure goblin rushes in the lower leagues, barch at TH7 up... It's even evident that the higher league players are getting better and better at attacking with various combinations of golems, wizards, PEKKAs and what not. Long story short, yes dragons are strong but even then it's not entirely brainless and a more skilled player can definitely get more out of the same number of dragons compared someone less so. The defender, on the other hand, (even at TH8) can at least plan a layout that can stop less skilled/un-leveled dragon raids.

It's evident that dropping lightning spells is a different case altogether. Players of any skill level ultimately get the same mileage out of the same number of spells and no matter how brilliant a base design the result will similarly be the same. Such strategies that DO NOT REWARD SKILL should NOT BE REWARDED.

My two cents.

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Originally Posted by Nopeudon

well, I only just realised that there were duplicate threads lying around and since the discussion on this one seemed more lively...

My issues with this strategy is that it's dumbing down the game for both sides- the defender doesn't even get a chance to do anything about the lightning spells, while the attacker is brainlessly clicking next, dropping 3 spells and running away. Someone made a comparison earlier to dropping dragons; I would like to say that the comparison is absolutely incompatible. There will always be certain strategies that are strong at different levels- think pure goblin rushes in the lower leagues, barch at TH7 up... It's even evident that the higher league players are getting better and better at attacking with various combinations of golems, wizards, PEKKAs and what not. Long story short, yes dragons are strong but even then it's not entirely brainless and a more skilled player can definitely get more out of the same number of dragons compared someone less so. The defender, on the other hand, (even at TH8) can at least plan a layout that can stop less skilled/un-leveled dragon raids.

It's evident that dropping lightning spells is a different case altogether. Players of any skill level ultimately get the same mileage out of the same number of spells and no matter how brilliant a base design the result will similarly be the same. Such strategies that DO NOT REWARD SKILL should NOT BE REWARDED.

My two cents.

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that is a bump stop crying like a crybaby about GET OVER IT!! its a part of the game they zap you zap em back

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Originally Posted by mhed

that is a bump stop crying like a crybaby about GET OVER IT!! its a part of the game they zap you zap em back

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It's a valid point that is discussed and the get over it answer is a little old... You obviously don't understand that you can't just "Zap" them back ... Well you can but get nothing in return and that is the point. TH 10 gets hit with lightning from TH7 and gets 1,200 DE a revenge on that TH7 with lightning get you a 100 or so. Learn how to raid for the DE and stop the Zapping. Must be real exciting replays to watch in your clan if you do this .....

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Originally Posted by Dread

It's not the only way to get dark elixir, go to 1600s and snipe max de drills from inactive bases. It took me less than 3 days to get my king. Now i'm a th9, and people lightining my de are very annoying. The problem with it is that they just drop the spells and surrender leaving you no shield what so ever. The most i got zapped was 5 times in a row and lost over 4000 dark elixir in one night. I think that supercell should adjust the amount of dark elixir that can be stolen by lightning spells, like cut the amount in half or give you a shield everythme a lightning spell touches your dark elixir storage.

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Originally Posted by Chinhan1991

I keep having my dark storage stroke by lightning spells, multiple times because those attacks don't give shield. There is pretty much nothing I can do about it even if I try to max out the defense. I don't think it is very nice play. And for the remark, I am TH8, trying to upgrade golem 2. So it is suicidal to be in higher league. Right now, the best I could think of is offering out 1 or 2 of my gold storages for a shield.

I did not see this post before posting mine, but one with suggestions and polls:
http://forum.supercell.net/showthread.php/441022-A-1x1-defense-that-provide-shield-against-lightning-spell-against-dark-storage-farm

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Both of you bumped this thread. Bumping threads is against forum rules, and I think the longer the time between posts, the more severe it is. Even bumping a thread 2 days old is bad, let alone a thread that is a week or even a YEAR old

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Originally Posted by ColonelAwesome

Both of you bumped this thread. Bumping threads is against forum rules, and I think the longer the time between posts, the more severe it is. Even bumping a thread 2 days old is bad, let alone a thread that is a week or even a YEAR old

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Against the rules.... Lol, the thread might be over a year old but that shows you how much they pay attention..... You are part of the thread as well so we can keep it going as much as you like.

If u feel like this strategy is too good at getting DE, use it urself

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Originally Posted by TADP0LE

If u feel like this strategy is too good at getting DE, use it urself

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I don't think it's good at all and not in the sport of the game.. In two years of play I have never used it rather, I learned how to use troops to get DE.

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Originally Posted by Theknightofni88

Nevermind now that I read more than just the stickies, everyone is ♥♥♥♥♥♥ about this. Why is it not solved? Easy - lightning doesn't steal resources. Done. If that's how you get your resources you suck and need to go play animal crossing. Lightning rods, consumables, better teslas... All that stuff is great, but it ruins the effectiveness of the spell as it's meant to be used. Prohibiting the game breaking "resources plundering lightning" is the best recourse. I know this is a world of wizards and dragons, but hell, that doesn't mean you can't THINK about it like in most other facets of your game.

You want my resources, COME GET EM. You aren't Thor. I expect to have to work for what I take too.

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The developers could add a lighning rod to the de storage as it could just ark it to the ground and therefore not be able to steal de from you witb the lightning spells

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Originally Posted by Theknightofni88

This HAS to be modified. It is preposterous that with NO battle, and no defensive recourse, someone can peel large amounts of dark elixir off of a base, utilizing NO troops. I understand it's a damage spell and they have to spend the time to make it, but when you pull 1000 dark elixir dropping four lightning spells and nothing else, that breaks the game a little.

Please AT LEAST adjust the amount that spell damage can take in resources. I know it might be tough to program or whatever, but you could make it so the percentage of damage that the spell does to the storage grants LESS resource, and FURTHER damage would provide much higher reward from the remaining hit points.

I'm sure I'm not the only one frustrated by this. If it was up to me, I'd just condense all the resource available in the storage to remaining hit points. If I drop a nuke on your bank, I don't get the cash added to my account. That's BULL♥♥♥♥. Personally I'd be very happy if lightning only killed clan castle defense troops, and defensive buildings/walls.

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What stops you from doing it? I gained 10000 dark elixir per day from using the lightning spells in crystal! That goes the same for you! I have a level 5 barbarian king at town hall 7! If you use the lightning spells in 2000-2100 trophies, you will get a TON of dark elixir.

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Originally Posted by Theknightofni88

Nevermind now that I read more than just the stickies, everyone is ♥♥♥♥♥♥ about this. Why is it not solved? Easy - lightning doesn't steal resources. Done. If that's how you get your resources you suck and need to go play animal crossing. Lightning rods, consumables, better teslas... All that stuff is great, but it ruins the effectiveness of the spell as it's meant to be used. Prohibiting the game breaking "resources plundering lightning" is the best recourse. I know this is a world of wizards and dragons, but hell, that doesn't mean you can't THINK about it like in most other facets of your game.

You want my resources, COME GET EM. You aren't Thor. I expect to have to work for what I take too.

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What prevents you from using it? Cheap tactics are beast. Just push to crystal and you won't be bombarded by th7s. Plus, you will be able to use the lightning spells! I got my level 5 barb king off of the spells.