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Recently, i have noticed a lot of threads asking about army composition. In those threads, I have noticed that giant healer is used for farming. Now, i have used giant healer and Im not calling out anyone who uses it, but healers for farming? I'd like to hear everyone's thoughts on this, as well as using higher tiered troops to farm with.
Ill start: I think healers could be used for farming, but only if you aren't farming walls. ;)
Hey mate
In my opinion, healers are genius.
I use
15giants
1healer
5-6wbs
99-101archers
I love it. It works great. For wallfarming too.
Healers/Giants are only more viable than ever now - just not for elixir farming. Great for DE raiding at TH9 - okay at TH 8
Just pick your targets well
I used to do the healer giant archer strategy when i was th 7, and i had enough gold for everything, but th 8 is a different story..the upgrades get big, and who can rule out the 112.5 mil gold for walls..the healer strategy would take easy 30 min per raid..at that rate of attacking one cant get lvl 8 walls done in good time. On the other hand you have BAM, 8 min for one raid if youre quick and experienced..people have used bam for de too..its worked out fine. In the end, it depends on which technique YOU can use most effectively.
I've been doing Giant/Healer most of TH8, nearly maxed (starting upgrade TH9 tonight) and will be before my TH completes, walls finished Sat, BK lvl 10, minions fully upgraded, never had an idle builder. It is a little slower than other build outs, but I think it does a much better job cracking bases, which if you are trying to get DE is more important. Also my build out can easily pick off collectors, on average I only burn a full army every 4th-5th attack since I will pick off town halls for trophies, and will pick off collectors when I can get 100K+ gold, or 500+ DE.
Build out:
2 Healer
15 Giants
6 WB
65 Archers
10 Minions (Good for picking off isolated stuff and BKs, and generally clean up if the Giants cleared out the ADs and Towers but there is still a mortar or two up)
Just curious, how many days it took you to max everything including walls and bk? And how many raids per day on average?Quote:
Originally Posted by Jiriki
Healer is good at farming but takes too long time to train so i dont use it i use only 8-12 giants and 50/50 on archers and goblins and some wb tooQuote:
Originally Posted by Sgruenler3
Thanks for replying guys, sounds like healers work great for de farming. Ill have to try that. :D
This really Depends on what you are farming.
For gold, healer/giants is only ok, you have to use spells before you take down air defenses, that costs a lot.
For DE, it is very good combination. Nearlly everyone hides their storage in the center, you need to break through the base.
If only for gold, BAM is a better choice. I once farmed at 1400 range using BAM, typically 1.5M more per hour.
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Originally Posted by Sgruenler3
I have been using healers for gold farming for months, at both TH8 and TH9. The point is that you only use them when you are going 'all in' which can be as little as 10-20% of the time. The rest of the time, it's mostly archers and giants as meat shields on deserted mines. The point is to have a balanced army with enough pillaging troops for easy bases but enough muscle to 3* reasonable defences when needed. This strategy has just got MUCH better with the improvements to both lvl6 giants and healers.
If you don't believe healers are for resource farming, take a look at my gold-grab stats (140m since the profiles upgrade) and my walls :)
No no i believe you :) and i have used healers before :)Quote:
Originally Posted by StanDadVille
What trophy level btw?
I farmed for ages at 1250 but I prefer 1700-1800 now - easier to keep hold of DE, though I've noticed a distinct increase in lightning raids since the cheap spell boosting, even at these levelsQuote:
Originally Posted by Sgruenler3
Well I'm using healers for "farming" since th7. I'm not doing the easy collector farming most of the time though--I'll take them when I can, but I feel like that I'm too lazy to keep searching for them. I'm usually going all in versus th 9-10's who have 220-300k gold/elixir. I'm usually in the 2-2.4k range though so the league bonus helps to offset the spell costs a bit. I usually use 1 lightning and 1 heal. I'm currently trying out bam, but not really liking it since its really hard to get into the core.
So it sounds like healers are great for farming, especially de farming at higher trophy ranges.
Healer-Giant variations with wizards, minions and such are extremely effective for DE Hunting.
;)
I used healer/giant all of th7 and in the beginning th8. I now use bam. The healer army can get more de, has a better win rate and is more versatile in the bases it can attack. However the 26 min build time is a bit long, it can never make as much gold per hour as bam or a archer minion army and any mistakes or losses are twice as bad as recovery takes longer and the elixir loss is higher. All a matter of taste but there is certainly a place for the healer/giant army. I use it when I am having trouble finding abandoned towns and full collectors. Bam has huge problems getting to centralized storages.
What bout healer-giant with hogs? Anyone tried this comp? Is it viable for farming with th8? Th9? Would the hogs significantly help in bring down defenses faster especially ADs so as to make way for the healer?
Don't use healers at farming. They cost a lot (8000 elixir, level 3) and training time is lot (15 minutes). Use Barch, BAM, BAG etc.
Hogs move way too fast for healers to be effective with themQuote:
Originally Posted by AragornII
If you are a serious farmer then elixir won't matter, cos you always have spare anywayQuote:
Originally Posted by ClashOfClansGamer
It just depends on people's play style and how this works with their real life rhythms. If someone is in position to log on often throughout the day, but only for a few minutes at a time, this sort of army can be very efficient as they can look for full storages and won't have to press 'next' a lot of times. It's bad gold per hour, but good gold per minute of actual play.
OTOH, if it's night time and you have the iPad right there for a concentrated gaming session and need gold, you'll be much better off with BAG/BAM/BARCH type loadouts.
It just depends on people's situations.
I used to farm with 30 minute cook armies and it works, but now I don't attack until my shield runs out and just use quicker build forces in more intensive gaming sessions later in the day (mostly because I now have Clan Castle wizards).