Solution to fix engineering?

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Originally Posted by Aspex

Nice attempt to discredit my position by insinuating that I have a vested interest. Not only a fallacious argument but so poorly done that it would be laughable were it not sad.

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I said "who knows" for a reason. It means I could be wrong about your position even if I don't think I am. It just means I'm open to being wrong. Can't see anything wrong about that

Anyways thanks for being so friendly lol.

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Originally Posted by JackKerouac

I said "who knows" for a reason. It means I could be wrong about your position even if I don't think I am. It just means I'm open to being wrong. Can't see anything wrong about that

Anyways thanks for being so friendly lol.

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When people constantly make the assumption that one engineers and use that as the basis of their fallacious arguments, one tends to lose tolerance of such tricks and those who use them.

Edit: And despite what you may think, neither I nor my clan engineer. I also don't care whether you choose to believe me or not.

As you can tell, I've had this conversation before too.

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Originally Posted by Aspex

When people constantly make the assumption that one engineers and use that as the basis of their fallacious arguments, one tends to lose tolerance of such tricks and those who use them.

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It's not a trick though- it's what I would assume based on what I noticed to be an emotional attatchment to an issue- but I threw in the fact that I wasn't sure I was even right on purpose- because I'm not always right.

Either way I'm trying my best to be nice about something I think is totally wrong.

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Originally Posted by JackKerouac

It's not a trick though- it's what I would assume based on what I noticed to be an emotional attatchment to an issue- but I threw in the fact that I wasn't sure I was even right on purpose- because I'm not always right.

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It is both a rhetorical trick and a fallacious argument. Seriously. It's as old as the hills.

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Originally Posted by JackKerouac

It's not a trick though- it's what I would assume based on what I noticed to be an emotional attatchment to an issue- but I threw in the fact that I wasn't sure I was even right on purpose- because I'm not always right.

Either way I'm trying my best to be nice about something I think is totally wrong.

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So your best at trying to be nice is to assume the worst in people?

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Originally Posted by Aspex

It is both a rhetorical trick and a fallacious argument. Seriously. It's as old as the hills.

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Believe me- what I assume based on what I read is simply my best guess based on the evidence- and has nothing to do with tricks- it's simply what I gathered. And either way I already told you I left room for my assumption to be wrong- so I don't need to discuss that over and over again. You can if you want but I'm done.

I can see why so many people like coming to these forums lol

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Originally Posted by JackKerouac

Believe me- what I assume based on what I read is simply my best guess based on the evidence- and has nothing to do with tricks- it's simply what I gathered. And either way I already told you I left room for my assumption to be wrong- so I don't need to discuss that over and over again. You can if you want but I'm done.

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Firstly, what evidence? Seriously, what evidence do you have that would point to me either rushing or engineering?

Secondly, if you were not employing a rhetorical trick or advancing a fallacious argument you would have kept your erroneous, evidence free assumption out of your post. That you did not and that you used it as you did is what I objected to.

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Originally Posted by Aspex

Firstly, what evidence? Seriously, what evidence do you have that would point to me either rushing or engineering?

Secondly, if you were not employing a rhetorical trick or advancing a fallacious argument you would have kept your erroneous, evidence free assumption out of your post. That you did not and that you used it as you did is what I objected to.

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I will reply to the content of people who keep on topic - you can rehash that all you want though with the other guy I guess.

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Originally Posted by Aspex

You made whether I rushed or engineered on topic when you brought that into the thread.

And it's a bit much of you to play the forum etiquette card when you posted a thread proposing a change to the game in the General sub-forum.

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This isn't a proposal to change the game at all- this is a topic to discuss the pros and cons of what I was talking about.