Recommendations on war army?

Right now I've been using GoVaHo which works pretty well most of the time but recently it's been failing me. I don't have access to bowlers and I'm really not a fan of Laloon for some reason ( probably because I don't have lvl 2 lavahounds). My queen is 15 and my king is going to 14 soon to be 15. Idk that much about witch slap but maybe that can work?? I only have lvl 1 witches. Are there any ground armies that work well on pretty much any Th 9 base with little customization? Im thinking about implementing a queen walk... Any ideas on that? Thanks in advance.

Not on, "pretty much any Th 9 base with little customization," that's just not really gonna happen.

However, I'd take a strong look at GoHo, if bowlers aren't an options. I think Cast N Blast just uploaded some vids of GoHo taking down some ~max TH9s

I'd get hounds to 2, they make a big difference in LaLoon attacks

Witch Slap has some fans too, but, again, you want L2 witches ideally

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Originally Posted by Lunaticfringe

Not on, "pretty much any Th 9 base with little customization," that's just not really gonna happen.

However, I'd take a strong look at GoHo, if bowlers aren't an options. I think Cast N Blast just uploaded some vids of GoHo taking down some ~max TH9s

I'd get hounds to 2, they make a big difference in LaLoon attacks

Witch Slap has some fans too, but, again, you want L2 witches ideally

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Cool. Yeah I used to use Goho for every base and it did really well- until they started having drags in their CC. The dragon ethier A. Take out half my golems health and take out BK. OR B. Wipe out my whole KS if the AQ and wizards weren't funnel correctly. My clan mates would also use GoHo and before each attack we would always talk about getting wizards and AQ in with that KS. But it happened every time lol. I will consider lvl 2 witches and lvl 2 hounds. But honestly though I'm really thinking about a Queen walk GoVaHo.

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Originally Posted by ILikePie66

Cool. Yeah I used to use Goho for every base and it did really well- until they started having drags in their CC. The dragon ethier A. Take out half my golems health and take out BK. OR B. Wipe out my whole KS if the AQ and wizards weren't funnel correctly. My clan mates would also use GoHo and before each attack we would always talk about getting wizards and AQ in with that KS. But it happened every time lol. I will consider lvl 2 witches and lvl 2 hounds. But honestly though I'm really thinking about a Queen walk GoVaHo.

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The drag alone is, "taking out 1/2 golem health and take out BK?"

Huh? Poison should seriously slow down CC & I/my clan always bring at least one (unless AQ pop attack) to deal with CC.

Also, you seem to indicate a possible funneling issue. Funneling KS to get the AQ and the CC on a GoHo is pretty much standard stuff. Once those 2 are under control, release the hogs

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Originally Posted by Lunaticfringe

The drag alone is, "taking out 1/2 golem health and take out BK?"

Huh? Poison should seriously slow down CC & I/my clan always bring at least one (unless AQ pop attack) to deal with CC.

Also, you seem to indicate a possible funneling issue. Funneling KS to get the AQ and the CC on a GoHo is pretty much standard stuff. Once those 2 are under control, release the hogs

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I guess I haven't experimented enough. I trained up a stoned GoHo ( 3 golems , 10 wiz's, wbs, 14 hogs, clean up troops, and hogs in CC) and it actually did really well against some of my clans other Th9s. I will definitely try it out for next war and I've noticed that putting more troops into your KS ( extra golem) allows them to tank and go a lot father so that you can drop hogs a little bit later. Thanks for making me reconsider the strategy!

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Originally Posted by ILikePie66

I guess I haven't experimented enough. I trained up a stoned GoHo ( 3 golems , 10 wiz's, wbs, 14 hogs, clean up troops, and hogs in CC) and it actually did really well against some of my clans other Th9s. I will definitely try it out for next war and I've noticed that putting more troops into your KS ( extra golem) allows them to tank and go a lot father so that you can drop hogs a little bit later. Thanks for making me reconsider the strategy!

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I tend to seldom go stoned. I prefer either 1 or 2 golem GoHo, as especially the former, as that allows me to go hog nuts.

But you need to have a plan to get the AQ and the CC and you generally need a solid funnel to do that. YouTube Cast N Blast and look for a recent upload of GoHo. And HGHB/HPHB are among the best too, but I won't torture you with bowler based attacks.

Try and get witches and hounds up, as those have possibilities as well

I must say, however, GoBoHo is often the nutz attack when executing a GoHo, but I know you can't get bowlers atm.

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Originally Posted by Lunaticfringe

I tend to seldom go stoned. I prefer either 1 or 2 golem GoHo, as especially the former, as that allows me to go hog nuts.

But you need to have a plan to get the AQ and the CC and you generally need a solid funnel to do that. YouTube Cast N Blast and look for a recent upload of GoHo. And HGHB/HPHB are among the best too, but I won't torture you with bowler based attacks.

Try and get witches and hounds up, as those have possibilities as well

I must say, however, GoBoHo is often the nutz attack when executing a GoHo, but I know you can't get bowlers atm.

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I watched Cast n Blast and he did a shattered GoBoHo but not a GoHo. Anyways, I find it crazy that you only use 1 golem, do you have videos of it? I will do my research but I believe it requires a healthy balance of hogs and golems. Usually when doing a GoHo, my KS goals are 1. Lure CC 2. Kill AQ 3. Take care of any possible giant bomb spots so that hogs can clean easier. I will look more into cold blooded GoHo and the other possibilities.

Listen to lunatic - he's a good fella

Regarding goho - you'll need to crunch some numbers - there was a time not so long ago that hogs would die under heal if being hit by not so many defenses. You'll need to check your heals vs defenses engaged to get best results

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Originally Posted by wysiwyg

Listen to lunatic - he's a good fella

Regarding goho - you'll need to crunch some numbers - there was a time not so long ago that hogs would die under heal if being hit by not so many defenses. You'll need to check your heals vs defenses engaged to get best results

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Thanks. I practiced a bit more and honestly I think the number of golems depends on each base. I've tested 1, 2, and 3 golems and they all have their pros and cons. We are starting a war today so I will let you guys know how it goes with this army.

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Originally Posted by ILikePie66

I watched Cast n Blast and he did a shattered GoBoHo but not a GoHo. Anyways, I find it crazy that you only use 1 golem, do you have videos of it? I will do my research but I believe it requires a healthy balance of hogs and golems. Usually when doing a GoHo, my KS goals are 1. Lure CC 2. Kill AQ 3. Take care of any possible giant bomb spots so that hogs can clean easier. I will look more into cold blooded GoHo and the other possibilities.

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Hmm, I could have sworn it was Cast, but perhaps it was Cleric Dragoon (sp?) or someone similar. I'll see it I can find it shortly. The attacker was definitely putting hogs into the CC on the vid I watched

Unfortunately, I don't have any recent videos, but I do have them. With bowlers, it's hard to not use them on GoHo attacks. A good funnel of bowlers on a TH9 war bases is very difficult to stop (i.e. that's often the friggin challenge!). As such, I mostly use GoBoHo when I decide a version of GoHo is the way to go, but I do feel that GoHo is still very viable.

I will say that I'm not sure going 2 golem and making the KS stronger isn't as good/better way to go even if 1 golem works to funnel, but I once learned it often depends on how many golems you need to funnel the KS. At one point, I was always defaulting to using more hogs as much as possible, so it was easy for me to add hogs when one golem was all that was needed to funnel.

Nowadays, I might bring two, even if one golem is needed to funnel, as I think having a stronger KS is often desirable. I don't generally like xbows on my hogs, so I like to get them distracted by KS. Further, if the golem is going to be under a ton of defensive pressure, like the AQ and an xbow (among other defenses) on it ~immediately, I think another golem might make good sense.

I just did a one golem GoBoHo with one golem (~max TH9 hitting a early TH10 (max TH9 defense, plus some upgraded teslas) yesterday. Granted, on this particular base, I spent 26 troop space creating a nice funnel and pulling the CC (custom attack) before dropping the golem, but I did, in fact, use only one golem.

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Originally Posted by ILikePie66

Thanks. I practiced a bit more and honestly I think the number of golems depends on each base. I've tested 1, 2, and 3 golems and they all have their pros and cons. We are starting a war today so I will let you guys know how it goes with this army.

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I believe it does. A while back, I believe Cast once said the same thing I said above (it might have been in a GoVoHo attack strat discussion, but the theory remains the same). If you can funnel with 1 golem, use 1 golem.

Note, however, that you need to also consider how much DPS the initial golem will be under. If a butt-ton, you might want to bring 2. And there's nothing wrong with 2 golem in many situations, as ~30 hogs and 2-3 heals are still really tough to stop.

That said, just plan on bringing 2 almost no matter what and adjust army accordingly. 3 golem really isn't my thing, but you will not hear me say it's "by definition" inferior. I just don't prefer it. I still believe, in general, hog-heavy is the preferred way to go at TH9 on GoHo attacks

Further, another option, which I should have mentioned above, is to GiHeHo, which I recall someone making a recent video about it. It's still a solid option. Last year, I did a really big write-up comparing and contrasting GiHeHo and GoHo and I bet it largely still applies. A well-executed GiHeHo is nothing to sneeze at and, at least in my mind, formed the basis of HGHB attacks.

This is ancient, but imho, most of it still applies: https://forum.supercell.com/showthre...or-TH9s-GiHeHo

In many ways, that attack is stronger today than when that vid was made

That said, get a TH10 that can give bowlers & open up an array of nasty attacks...cough...cough.... :D