Townhall 12

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Originally Posted by Darian[Supercell]

There are going to be updates to both. I don't know if it'll be in the form of another TH upgrade for the main base though. That doesn't mean it will or won't happen, I just don't know yet. There are going to be updates to the Builder Base as well. There may be times where we do several BH updates in a row then do several TH updates in a row. There may be times were we do one update then focus on the other for a single update and then switch back. It entirely depends on what is ready for deployment at that time. The BH stuff is easier to deploy new content for because it's much smaller than the TH content; however, that doesn't mean we're not working on stuff for the TH as well.

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Well, its been long time no updates for main base excapt the balance changes. So, next update should be main village instead of BB

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Originally Posted by Darian[Supercell]

There are going to be updates to both. I don't know if it'll be in the form of another TH upgrade for the main base though. That doesn't mean it will or won't happen, I just don't know yet. There are going to be updates to the Builder Base as well. There may be times where we do several BH updates in a row then do several TH updates in a row. There may be times were we do one update then focus on the other for a single update and then switch back. It entirely depends on what is ready for deployment at that time. The BH stuff is easier to deploy new content for because it's much smaller than the TH content; however, that doesn't mean we're not working on stuff for the TH as well.

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oh so you're confirming that, at least sometimes, it'll take longer to the TH be updated because you guys are focusing on the BB instead

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Originally Posted by strandwolfza

oh so you're confirming that, at least sometimes, it'll take longer to the TH be updated because you guys are focusing on the BB instead

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That's just the nature of game development. There are going to be times where focus has to shift towards certain aspects of a project. I truly hate using metaphors because ultimately not everyone can relate to them. But being a former project manager, old habits are hard to give up so I'll try...

If you have to cook dinner (TH) and make your bed (BH), you obviously can't do both at the same time. If your dinner can be cooked in a microwave (short duration project), sometimes you can just throw it in the microwave and make your bed while the food is cooking. However, if you're cooking a complex dinner for a group of people coming over it might be easier to just make your bed first so you can then focus on the cooking after. You have to prioritize how your time (development resources) has to be spent.

I know these are vague references as I am more trying to convey how sometimes things shift based on what a) can be done quickly b) what is urgent c) what needs to be planned long term.

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Originally Posted by strandwolfza

oh so you're confirming that, at least sometimes, it'll take longer to the TH be updated because you guys are focusing on the BB instead

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Did you read what was written? Nowhere did he say that they're focusing more on the BB. He said pretty clearly that BB stuff was easier. That means that, even if the exact same amount of time is spent on both, we will see more BB stuff.

EDIT: Or Darian can beat me out with a reply of his own

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Originally Posted by Darian[Supercell]

That's just the nature of game development. There are going to be times where focus has to shift towards certain aspects of a project. I truly hate using metaphors because ultimately not everyone can relate to them. But being a former project manager, old habits are hard to give up so I'll try...

If you have to cook dinner (TH) and make your bed (BH), you obviously can't do both at the same time. If your dinner can be cooked in a microwave (short duration project), sometimes you can just throw it in the microwave and make your bed while the food is cooking. However, if you're cooking a complex dinner for a group of people coming over it might be easier to just make your bed first so you can then focus on the cooking after. You have to prioritize how your time (development resources) has to be spent.

I know these are vague references as I am more trying to convey how sometimes things shift based on what a) can be done quickly b) what is urgent c) what needs to be planned long term.

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Good explanation. But no one should have told or lead the family to think that dinner was cooking, when all they get to eat is leftovers -- and after a long wait with the oven cooking, all we got was a made bed. People expecting dinner was also led to believe there was a feast coming.

See what I did there?

And I work with PMs all day...

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Originally Posted by Darian[Supercell]

That's just the nature of game development. There are going to be times where focus has to shift towards certain aspects of a project. I truly hate using metaphors because ultimately not everyone can relate to them. But being a former project manager, old habits are hard to give up so I'll try...

If you have to cook dinner (TH) and make your bed (BH), you obviously can't do both at the same time. If your dinner can be cooked in a microwave (short duration project), sometimes you can just throw it in the microwave and make your bed while the food is cooking. However, if you're cooking a complex dinner for a group of people coming over it might be easier to just make your bed first so you can then focus on the cooking after. You have to prioritize how your time (development resources) has to be spent.

I know these are vague references as I am more trying to convey how sometimes things shift based on what a) can be done quickly b) what is urgent c) what needs to be planned long term.

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This example is great.

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Originally Posted by devilsrevengeclan

Good explanation. But no one should have told or lead the family to think that dinner was cooking, when all they get to eat is leftovers -- and after a long wait with the oven cooking, all we got was a made bed. People expecting dinner was also led to believe there was a feast coming.

See what I did there?

And I work with PMs all day...

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And this is why I hate using metaphors. The point of my comparison was purely from the person doing the chores, not the stakeholders/target audience. It was a very simple comparison about resource allocation, not expectations of the people attending.

I'd like to see a major trickle down update. The lowest THs get maxed so quickly - howabout giving them more stuff to build/research. Move some of the TH3 stuff to TH2, move new TH4 stuff to TH3, TH5 stuff to TH 4, and so on. If enough stuff trickles down, then maybe TH9/10 won't be such a grind. It might also breathe new life into some of those lower THs (like 7 & 8) making wars a bit more interesting.

I've started a couple of minis over the last year or so. I found it tons of fun overall, but the time spent at TH2-TH6 was miniscule. I would have enjoyed doing a little more work there.

However... I can understand that Supercell wants to attract (i.e. addict) new players, and the "speediness" of the path thru TH6 gets people hooked. Making that process slower could scare away the newbs.

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Originally Posted by JohnnyPC

I'd like to see a major trickle down update. The lowest THs get maxed so quickly - howabout giving them more stuff to build/research. Move some of the TH3 stuff to TH2, move new TH4 stuff to TH3, TH5 stuff to TH 4, and so on. If enough stuff trickles down, then maybe TH9/10 won't be such a grind. It might also breathe new life into some of those lower THs (like 7 & 8) making wars a bit more interesting.

I've started a couple of minis over the last year or so. I found it tons of fun overall, but the time spent at TH2-TH6 was miniscule. I would have enjoyed doing a little more work there.

However... I can understand that Supercell wants to attract (i.e. addict) new players, and the "speediness" of the path thru TH6 gets people hooked. Making that process slower could scare away the newbs.

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This has happened on occasion. Good example of this is the recent addition of extra collectors to TH9 which only used to be available at TH10.

TH11 is still underdeveloped, no need for TH12. I don't expect a TH12 until at the very earliest Autumn of 2018.