Walls that do not require free builder's hut for their construction and improvement

Walls are the thing that takes more time and resources than anything else, I understand that changing the price can be a tough choice since many players have spent time and money to do so, modifying the values ​​means making it much easier for them to experience Game.


Why do they need a builder's hut if so much their construction and upgrading is immediate?


In any case even the decorations are constructed in an instant and are elements that require resources and space to establish them. So they can be considered as walls even if they have no usefulness except the decorative one for clarification.


Why decorations do not require builder's hut and walls?


It would be much better to do so, as the builders are all busy in boosting them to eliminate a few million elixir and gold, thus reducing the chance for many players to steal millions of resources over a period of three days .



Since many have not understood it, I would like to point out that this will not interfere with the clash of clans "economy" because:
1 - it is like putting 4/5 builders at work and using the last worker just to strengthen the walls,
2 - if the walls did not require builders , players would continue to accumulate resources because otherwise they can not boost the village, furthermore, it is not possible to strengthen the walls infinitely so sooner or later players must force resources to strengthen the village,
3 - There have been far more divergent changes that have not affected the economy: 5 times faster troop creation, accumulating an army in the camp, a town hall of 2 levels below yours steals a small booty.
4 -The clash economy does not change so easily, and if so, there are many middlemen to remedy .

I'm still very upset that a glass globe for elixir storage can be built by whacking it with a hammer.

Also, bowlers are too unrealistic. Where are they keeping all of those big rocks? Are their pockets portals into a quarry?

ahahaha. Sorry , im italian and have translated the builders whit bricklayers XD

This has come up before and was stomped down rather quickly. You gave the reason in your post. It give players a way to dump extra loot while all builders are busy. If everyone did this it would destroy the games economy. You would get low loot from raids because they dumped their surplus into walls. Builder management is an important part of the game. Lots of players, myself included, keep a builder free so we can upgrade walls when needed.

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This has come up before and was stomped down rather quickly. You gave the reason in your post. It give players a way to dump extra loot while all builders are busy. If everyone did this it would destroy the games economy. You would get low loot from raids because they dumped their surplus into walls. Builder management is an important part of the game. Lots of players, myself included, keep a builder free so we can upgrade walls when needed.

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This

It actually use to be that you didn't need a builder for walls when the game was first launched but it had to much of a negative impact on the in game economy

Yes I totally agree. We need our walls to be upgraded WITHOUT a free builder.

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This has come up before and was stomped down rather quickly. You gave the reason in your post. It give players a way to dump extra loot while all builders are busy. If everyone did this it would destroy the games economy. You would get low loot from raids because they dumped their surplus into walls. Builder management is an important part of the game. Lots of players, myself included, keep a builder free so we can upgrade walls when needed.

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what could be more wrong then that ?


The "economy" of the game is not affected by the upgrading of the walls, because each player needs to maintain the resources to improve the troops. As you said before, you are using 4 builders instead of 5, so you can take advantage of the latest builder for wall upgrading. The trick can still be used today, but you must have the discomfort to leave a free builder. I understand that you need to be sure of all the details before accepting a new idea, but criticizing a problem that does not exist is wrong.

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It actually use to be that you didn't need a builder for walls when the game was first launched but it had to much of a negative impact on the in game economy

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absolutely wrong

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what could be more wrong then that ?


The "economy" of the game is not affected by the upgrading of the walls, because each player needs to maintain the resources to improve the troops. As you said before, you are using 4 builders instead of 5, so you can take advantage of the latest builder for wall upgrading. The trick can still be used today, but you must have the discomfort to leave a free builder. I understand that you need to be sure of all the details before accepting a new idea, but criticizing a problem that does not exist is wrong.

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Of course the economy is affected by walls. If all the people like yourself, who have troubles managing their time and resources in a game with such a large time and resource management component, were able to dump excess loot immediately into walls then there would be less raidable loot out there.

Builders are a resource, learn to manage them.

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This has come up before and was stomped down rather quickly. You gave the reason in your post. It give players a way to dump extra loot while all builders are busy. If everyone did this it would destroy the games economy. You would get low loot from raids because they dumped their surplus into walls. Builder management is an important part of the game. Lots of players, myself included, keep a builder free so we can upgrade walls when needed.

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what could be more wrong then that ?


The "economy" of the game is not affected by the upgrading of the walls, because each player needs to maintain the resources to improve the troops. As you said before, you are using 4 builders instead of 5, so you can take advantage of the latest builder for wall upgrading. The trick can still be used today, but you must have the discomfort to leave a free builder. I understand that you need to be sure of all the details before accepting a new idea, but criticizing a problem that does not exist is wrong.

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Your response is what's more wrong than that!

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what could be more wrong then that ?


The "economy" of the game is not affected by the upgrading of the walls, because each player needs to maintain the resources to improve the troops. As you said before, you are using 4 builders instead of 5, so you can take advantage of the latest builder for wall upgrading. The trick can still be used today, but you must have the discomfort to leave a free builder. I understand that you need to be sure of all the details before accepting a new idea, but criticizing a problem that does not exist is wrong.

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Lol. When this game was first launched, you didn't need a builder to upgrade walls. SC changed this because loot was scarce and players were complaining. They made this change because upgrading walls without builders was bad for the game. The change worked. I doubt they will change it again.

It wouldn't destroy any economy on the Builder Village - loot is not gained or lost from storages. @the guy making that argument.

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I'm still very upset that a glass globe for elixir storage can be built by whacking it with a hammer.

Also, bowlers are too unrealistic. Where are they keeping all of those big rocks? Are their pockets portals into a quarry?

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the hammer could be like a healing hammer
like that one from fix it Felix(yes i did watch that movie don't judge:smirk:)

and for the bowler thing
i was gonna say something but i rather not :smirk::smirk::smirk::smirk::smirk::smirk:

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Actually I'm correct but if you could show me proof that I'm wrong I'd love to see it

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Of course the economy is affected by walls. If all the people like yourself, who have troubles managing their time and resources in a game with such a large time and resource management component, were able to dump excess loot immediately into walls then there would be less raidable loot out there.

Builders are a resource, learn to manage them.

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But are you sure you have read my posts? Maybe it's my bad English, please read the messages ...
It seems to talk to children, I have given you more valid reasons to show that removing the needs of the builders for the walls does not alter the economy. It seems absurd that the supercell has made updates like: 5 times reduction the time for troops creation; Give the possibility to prepare an entire army in the barracks, when you can't even accept a detail so small . , I told you: because it is right, because it is better, because it does not bother the economy, because it is wrong to leave things as they are.

This forum is useless if you counteract every little idea without breathing .

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Actually I'm correct but if you could show me proof that I'm wrong I'd love to see it

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??? Emmm ... I told you, please read the post

I think that all of you saying this will destroy the games economy is wrong. I mean really?

1. You don't have infinity walls to upgrade
2. Having a free builder is the same as having no builder
3. You save up for things so you wouldn't always dump your gold on walls.
4. At lower th levels upgrades on buildings take barely anytime so they would be able to dump their gold anyway.

So those are my reasons. Of course, Aspex has a habit of posting opinions with no reason behind them so I'm not even paying attention to him. Chow.

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what could be more wrong then that ?


The "economy" of the game is not affected by the upgrading of the walls, because each player needs to maintain the resources to improve the troops. As you said before, you are using 4 builders instead of 5, so you can take advantage of the latest builder for wall upgrading. The trick can still be used today, but you must have the discomfort to leave a free builder. I understand that you need to be sure of all the details before accepting a new idea, but criticizing a problem that does not exist is wrong.

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But are you sure you have read my posts? Maybe it's my bad English, please read the messages ...
It seems to talk to children, I have given you more valid reasons to show that removing the needs of the builders for the walls does not alter the economy. It seems absurd that the supercell has made updates like: 5 times reduction the time for troops creation; Give the possibility to prepare an entire army in the barracks, when you can't even accept a detail so small . , I told you: because it is right, because it is better, because it does not bother the economy, because it is wrong to leave things as they are.

This forum is useless if you counteract every little idea without breathing .

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Except your reasons are not valid and easily disproven.

I won't counter your posts when they have a semblance of validity. You have made this accusation towards me in an earlier thread and it's obvious you can't accept alternate views so please don't pretend your disagreeing with someone is any different to them disagreeing with you.

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I think that all of you saying this will destroy the games economy is wrong. I mean really?

1. You don't have infinity walls to upgrade
2. Having a free builder is the same as having no builder
3. You save up for things so you wouldn't always dump your gold on walls.
4. At lower th levels upgrades on buildings take barely anytime so they would be able to dump their gold anyway.

So those are my reasons. Of course, Aspex has a habit of posting opinions with no reason behind them so I'm not even paying attention to him. Chow.

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Both of you sound clueless has to how the economy operates. Multiplayer is not Versus. The vast majority of players at every th raid to steal loot from others. If players could sink excess resources into walls the amount of available loot will dry up. This is well documented and to suggest otherwise means you haven't been playing long enough at higher level and/or this is you first real venture into any internet site that discusses CoC.

Keyword you are probably ignoring "excess".

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Lol. When this game was first launched, you didn't need a builder to upgrade walls. SC changed this because loot was scarce and players were complaining. They made this change because upgrading walls without builders was bad for the game. The change worked. I doubt they will change it again.

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Oh seriously say it? First did people complain? I would like to know these people because the walls are the most absurd in the game, to boost a small piece of wall 1X1 for 12 levels for a total price of 7 907 750 resources , considering that there are 275 walls weighing over 2 billion, this is right ? To maximize the walls is worth more than maximizing the whole village to the maximum, is that right? No is ridiculous, the problem is that now there are players who have struggled to improve them so it is difficult to find a solution to lower the price but if you think this is right then you're blind, the main reason for overpricing for any village improvement Is why people play more clashes, people playing = more people playing, people playing = money and popularity. I do not criticize the supercell for this, but the last thing you should do is defend the supercell, defend the supercell in a forum made to improve it, that's wrong, say that people once complained is an incredible fallacy, because I have playing Clash before they created this forum, and if there was not a forum before, people can't complain .

Get to the point , Regardless of whether what you say is true or false, economics can not be affected, for a simple and logical reason, I can still use 4 builders instead of 5, use my fifth builder only to strengthen the walls = Same effects of using 5/5 builders and enhancing walls without .

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Oh seriously say it? First did people complain? I would like to know these people because the walls are the most absurd in the game, to boost a small piece of wall 1X1 for 12 levels for a total price of 7 907 750 resources , considering that there are 275 walls weighing over 2 billion, this is right ? To maximize the walls is worth more than maximizing the whole village to the maximum, is that right? No is ridiculous, the problem is that now there are players who have struggled to improve them so it is difficult to find a solution to lower the price but if you think this is right then you're blind, the main reason for overpricing for any village improvement Is why people play more clashes, people playing = more people playing, people playing = money and popularity. I do not criticize the supercell for this, but the last thing you should do is defend the supercell, defend the supercell in a forum made to improve it, that's wrong, say that people once complained is an incredible fallacy, because I have playing Clash before they created this forum, and if there was not a forum before, people can't complain .

Get to the point , Regardless of whether what you say is true or false, economics can not be affected, for a simple and logical reason, I can still use 4 builders instead of 5, use my fifth builder only to strengthen the walls = Same effects of using 5/5 builders and enhancing walls without .

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People didn't complain because walls could be upgraded without a builder, they complained because THE ECONOMY WAS IN POOR STATE BECAUSE WALLS COULD BE UPGRADED WITHOUT A BUILDER.

Not everyone keeps a builder free to upgrade walls. I actually doubt it's as common as thought and we have no evidence either way. Many people don't have 5 builders or even 4 and they keep every builder busy.

Regardless whether what YOU say it's true or false, the CoC economy IS affected by wall upgrades and making wall upgrades easier has a mnown negative effect on the economy.

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Except your reasons are not valid and easily disproven.

I won't counter your posts when they have a semblance of validity. You have made this accusation towards me in an earlier thread and it's obvious you can't accept alternate views so please don't pretend your disagreeing with someone is any different to them disagreeing with you.



Both of you sound clueless has to how the economy operates. Multiplayer is not Versus. The vast majority of players at every th raid to steal loot from others. If players could sink excess resources into walls the amount of available loot will dry up. This is well documented and to suggest otherwise means you haven't been playing long enough at higher level and/or this is you first real venture into any internet site that discusses CoC.

Keyword you are probably ignoring "excess".

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This is wrong. I've explained it to you, you can not spend all the money on the walls for the simple fact that the player has to accumulate resources to boost the village.
example:
I need to strengthen my camp, I need 6,000,000 elixirs, I can not strengthen the walls with elixir because I am used for the camp, if I build the walls every time with the elixir, I can not amplify the camp so How can I not upgrade the archer tower, the lab, the town hall, so I can not go on with the game.

Coming to the point, I have to accumulate resources sooner or later.All this was written before, as I told you I'm translating from Italian to English, it is impatient and tiring, before I used an Italian way of saying, I did not think I would hurt you, sorry.

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People didn't complain because walls could be upgraded without a builder, they complained because THE ECONOMY WAS IN POOR STATE BECAUSE WALLS COULD BE UPGRADED WITHOUT A BUILDER.

Not everyone keeps a builder free to upgrade walls. I actually doubt it's as common as thought and we have no evidence either way. Many people don't have 5 builders or even 4 and they keep every builder busy.

Regardless whether what YOU say it's true or false, the CoC economy IS affected by wall upgrades and making wall upgrades easier has a mnown negative effect on the economy.

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I'm trying to explain it but you do not want to understand, you do not need to get angry, please keep calm and try to understand what I mean.


I wrote: I get to the point, I want you to understand that.


I've already written enough to let you know that your idea is wrong, please, if you disagree, read whit more concentration

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??? Emmm ... I told you, please read the post

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You are the one that's wrong.

When they first Launched the game you didn't need a builder to upgrade walls. This had a bad effect on the economy. So sc took the ability away and the economy improved. I don't know why you don't seem to understand. Maybe it's a language barrier thing

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You are the one that's wrong.

When they first Launched the game you didn't need a builder to upgrade walls. This had a bad effect on the economy. So sc took the ability away and the economy improved. I don't know why you don't seem to understand. Maybe it's a language barrier thing

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I've said it several times, let it all lie to what was before. The economy can not fail: players will continue to accumulate resources because otherwise they could not upgrade the village, I did you 4 examples, it is difficult for me to try to translate using different expressive languages ​​each time, please read my examples in As I commented just before

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This is wrong. I've explained it to you, you can not spend all the money on the walls for the simple fact that the player has to accumulate resources to boost the village.
example:
I need to strengthen my camp, I need 6,000,000 elixirs, I can not strengthen the walls with elixir because I am used for the camp, if I build the walls every time with the elixir, I can not amplify the camp so How can I not upgrade the archer tower, the lab, the town hall, so I can not go on with the game.

Coming to the point, I have to accumulate resources sooner or later.All this was written before, as I told you I'm translating from Italian to English, it is impatient and tiring, before I used an Italian way of saying, I did not think I would hurt you, sorry.

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Again ... 2 things

1 Excess not all.

2 History proves it does affect economy.

You are arguing against known and documented facts.

I am not hurt, not upset, not angry. I don't think anyone else posting in the thread is hurt, upset or angry either. But I am tired of explaining you are not accepting known, documented historical facts.

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Again ... 2 things

1 Excess not all.

2 History proves it does affect economy.

You are arguing against known and documented facts.

I am not hurt, not upset, not angry. I don't think anyone else posting in the thread is hurt, upset or angry either. But I am tired of explaining you are not accepting known, documented historical facts.

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You are not accepting concrete facts.

1 - I do not care about anything that happened before

2 - before saying there are historical facts, take it and send the link where this is clear

3 - I have made concrete, historical and clear that I am giving you under the palm of your nose: it is like putting 4/5 builders at work and using the last worker just to strengthen the walls, if the walls did not require builders players They would continue to accumulate resources because otherwise they can not boost the village, furthermore, it is not possible to strengthen the walls infinitely so sooner or later players must force resources to strengthen the village.

4 - Methods have been implemented to improve the clash economy: clan wars, improved boning loot, daily booty. All these methods make it easier to accumulate resources and improve the economy, before they were not, regardless of whether what you say is true or false today the system has changed

5 - There have been far more divergent changes that have not affected the economy: 5 times faster troop creation, accumulating an army in the camp, a town hall of 2 levels below yours steals a small booty.

I also have other logical examples and historical data to show you but I think that's enough for you to understand.

Thanks for the support

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You are not accepting concrete facts.

1 - I do not care about anything that happened before

2 - before saying there are historical facts, take it and send the link where this is clear

3 - I have made concrete, historical and clear that I am giving you under the palm of your nose: it is like putting 4/5 builders at work and using the last worker just to strengthen the walls, if the walls did not require builders players They would continue to accumulate resources because otherwise they can not boost the village, furthermore, it is not possible to strengthen the walls infinitely so sooner or later players must force resources to strengthen the village.

4 - Methods have been implemented to improve the clash economy: clan wars, improved boning loot, daily booty. All these methods make it easier to accumulate resources and improve the economy, before they were not, regardless of whether what you say is true or false today the system has changed

5 - There have been far more divergent changes that have not affected the economy: 5 times faster troop creation, accumulating an army in the camp, a town hall of 2 levels below yours steals a small booty.

I also have other logical examples and historical data to show you but I think that's enough for you to understand.

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Can you provide you the source of your concrete facts?

Here is the proof you asked for or should I say deny exists.https://forum.supercell.com/showthre...4%29?styleid=1

As for the Wall upgrades changes, the point here was also to add more loot into the multiplayer. Previously it was bit too easy just to dump all excess gold into your walls, thus making it unavailable for attackers to steal. We wanted to keep this still a possibility, but to make the decision if you really want to do this a bit harder. Now you can still do this but you need to have a worker available. So now it's a choice of actively upgrading your walls while attacking, or upgrading something else while attacking. And the more important choices we can offer you guys the more the game will have depth.

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Can you provide you the source of your concrete facts?

Here is the proof you asked for or should I say deny exists.https://forum.supercell.com/showthre...4%29?styleid=1

As for the Wall upgrades changes, the point here was also to add more loot into the multiplayer. Previously it was bit too easy just to dump all excess gold into your walls, thus making it unavailable for attackers to steal. We wanted to keep this still a possibility, but to make the decision if you really want to do this a bit harder. Now you can still do this but you need to have a worker available. So now it's a choice of actively upgrading your walls while attacking, or upgrading something else while attacking. And the more important choices we can offer you guys the more the game will have depth.

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I am not agree about this :

As for Wall upgrades updates, the point was also to add a lot of money to the multiplayer. In the past, it was too easy to remove all the excess earrings in your walls, making it unavailable for the aggressors to steal. We wanted to keep this option yet, but make the decision if you really want to make it a bit more difficult. Now you can still do it, but you have to have a worker. So now it's a choice to actively upgrade your walls while attaching or updating something else during the attack. And the most important choices we can offer kids the more the game will have depth.

My own are concrete. It is a 2012 post where it did not exist: daily booty, clan war, alloy booty league. And how to have 4 workers instead of 5 in the current system. All this I told you before, I do not want a 6 year old post , at this point you can still use the decorations in place of the walls, because sooner or later they will have to be made and having low resources reduce the chance of being attacked in any case

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I am not agree about this :

As for Wall upgrades updates, the point was also to add a lot of money to the multiplayer. In the past, it was too easy to remove all the excess earrings in your walls, making it unavailable for the aggressors to steal. We wanted to keep this option yet, but make the decision if you really want to make it a bit more difficult. Now you can still do it, but you have to have a worker. So now it's a choice to actively upgrade your walls while attaching or updating something else during the attack. And the most important choices we can offer kids the more the game will have depth.

My own are concrete. It is a 2012 post where it did not exist: daily booty, clan war, alloy booty league. And how to have 4 workers instead of 5 in the current system. All this I told you before, I do not want a 6 year old post , at this point you can still use the decorations in place of the walls, because sooner or later they will have to be made and having low resources reduce the chance of being attacked in any case

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You wanted proof from SC as to why they removed not needing worker for wall upgrades. I gave you it. Now your calling it false. Your either trolling or there is to much of a language barrier for you to understand. I'm done trying to explain.

You guys are SO stubborn. You would not kill the games economy. People who gem finish their buildings fast and then they can upgrade their walls. How come there not destroying the economy? This economy talk is stupid. It would not ruin the game if builders were not required to upgrade walls.

I remember when the game didn't require builder to upgrade walls. Whenever we had enough resources , we would upgrade the walls and loose all the resources , thus not sitting like bulky storage-filled bases. The loot was not good and unstable. Don't bring this back.

OH MY GOSH. You are not even paying attention to my logic any of you. You this will ruin the games economy when it won't. Read my top comment.

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OH MY GOSH. You are not even paying attention to my logic any of you. You this will ruin the games economy when it won't. Read my top comment.

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Do your research and stop posting assuming your opinion is fact and our facts are only opinions.

You *think* it won't make a difference, but history, which CAN'T be ignored, shows otherwise.

Read the first hand responses in this thread also.

I'm out too. There comes a point when being repeatedly being told to read people's posts when they can't be bothered to do likewise, is a total waste of time.

Wow. You show no arguement against some of my claims. Did you even read my part about people who gem. I'm done with this. CHOW.

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Wow. You show no arguement against some of my claims. Did you even read my part about people who gem. I'm done with this. CHOW.

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Dog or army ?

Ciao.

Here is what SUPERCELL thinks about this
https://supercell.helpshift.com/a/cl...ade-walls&l=en

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I'm still very upset that a glass globe for elixir storage can be built by whacking it with a hammer.

Also, bowlers are too unrealistic. Where are they keeping all of those big rocks? Are their pockets portals into a quarry?

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Sont worry i asked supercell this already they said it is a "magic" hammer. Later we found a villager on another island with a "magic" hammer. What could this mean

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Here is what SUPERCELL thinks about this
https://supercell.helpshift.com/a/cl...ade-walls&l=en

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What the supercell thinks is not inportant! We are here to expose our ideas and above all to improve the game that manages the supercell. You did not understand that it is just what the supercell did that we would like to change otherwise this forum would not exist! Just send the supercell link! I do not care!

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You guys are SO stubborn. You would not kill the games economy. People who gem finish their buildings fast and then they can upgrade their walls. How come there not destroying the economy? This economy talk is stupid. It would not ruin the game if builders were not required to upgrade walls.

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Totally agree

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What the supercell thinks is not inportant! We are here to expose our ideas and above all to improve the game that manages the supercell. You did not understand that it is just what the supercell did that we would like to change otherwise this forum would not exist! Just send the supercell link! I do not care!

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So you don't agree with posts that directly contradict your alleged "facts" and what SC think is not important?

Why are you even posting here? Go and create your own game so that people like you can disregard your views and knowledge of your own creation.

BTW, I don't think that you understand the rep system or the rules governing it. Keep on as you are and the explanation of the rep system that you receive will probably be the final communication you receive on the forums.

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So you don't agree with posts that directly contradict your alleged "facts" and what SC think is not important?

Why are you even posting here? Go and create your own game so that people like you can disregard your views and knowledge of your own creation.

BTW, I don't think that you understand the rep system or the rules governing it. Keep on as you are and the explanation of the rep system that you receive will probably be the final communication you receive on the forums.

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What are the facts that contradict what I say?
It seems to me that you and the supercell have not given me logical explanations, you answered: destroying the economy,
why?


answers:


-Everyone would use the technique I mentioned in the post.


Wrong, the situation would be like now.


- There are historical facts about supercells that keep what I've written.


6 years ago there have been different systems, OVER ALL, supercell set this rule to prevent the technique of stealing resources (read the supercell post, read what the experts did with their villages).
You know what?


Experienced players have put 5 busy workers only when they have reached a large number of resources (eg 3000 k gold and elixir), resetting resources, no one could steal, in the meantime they attack, with more money than they had accumulated. You can build very expensive buildings like a hell tower.
The walls did not require masonry, so the players when they had all 5 busy workers and knowing that blocking the job filled with more required deposits, he spent more money on the walls, with the rest filling the deposits.


What did supercell do?

What I said. It has blocked the recovery of resources and did one thing: make the builders necessary for the walls. This action is completely useless because resource recovery is removed, you can no longer put operators to work, spend more resources during operations, and use resources for sites if resources run out of deployment.
If this is not the case, I have not received any explanation of why it was done, you did not understand anything that I said, criticize my messages without understanding, unobtrusive signals, supercell is in the rules it has imposed that it wants to feel our opinion.


I have 30 reasons why the rule of this manufacturer is wrong, you do not say yours, but cite the supercell and you do not even know why it reached this conclusion, why do you argue about what the supercell said?


Are you sure to read all the messages?
Impossible, because although what you say is true, you did not give an answer that went against the explanations I gave.


Why am I posting here?
You are right. It does not make sense, so we have to suffer what the supercell says, if you do not agree with something , do not try to say yours about it , Accept it and glory at the perfect supercell!

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Originally Posted by Pingotumbo

What are the facts that contradict what I say?
It seems to me that you and the supercell have not given me logical explanations, you answered: destroying the economy,
why?


answers:


-Everyone would use the technique I mentioned in the post.


Wrong, the situation would be like now.


- There are historical facts about supercells that keep what I've written.


6 years ago there have been different systems, OVER ALL, supercell set this rule to prevent the technique of stealing resources (read the supercell post, read what the experts did with their villages).
You know what?


Experienced players have put 5 busy workers only when they have reached a large number of resources (eg 3000 k gold and elixir), resetting resources, no one could steal, in the meantime they attack, with more money than they had accumulated. You can build very expensive buildings like a hell tower.
The walls did not require masonry, so the players when they had all 5 busy workers and knowing that blocking the job filled with more required deposits, he spent more money on the walls, with the rest filling the deposits.


What did supercell do?

What I said. It has blocked the recovery of resources and did one thing: make the builders necessary for the walls. This action is completely useless because resource recovery is removed, you can no longer put operators to work, spend more resources during operations, and use resources for sites if resources run out of deployment.
If this is not the case, I have not received any explanation of why it was done, you did not understand anything that I said, criticize my messages without understanding, unobtrusive signals, supercell is in the rules it has imposed that it wants to feel our opinion.


I have 30 reasons why the rule of this manufacturer is wrong, you do not say yours, but cite the supercell and you do not even know why it reached this conclusion, why do you argue about what the supercell said?


Are you sure to read all the messages?
Impossible, because although what you say is true, you did not give an answer that went against the explanations I gave.


Why am I posting here?
You are right. It does not make sense, so we have to suffer what the supercell says, if you do not agree with something , do not try to say yours about it , Accept it and glory at the perfect supercell!

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Why do you assume that you know better then SC?

You don't have access to their data. So you can't make an informed decision like they can.

You've don't have their experience in balancing the in game economy. So you don't know what will and won't throw it off.

The only data we have is that in the past you did not need builders for walls and the economy suffered. They changed this in an effort to help the economy, and it worked. Yet you continue to insist you know better than the company that developed the game.

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Originally Posted by Somethingnotalreadypicked

Why do you assume that you know better then SC?

You don't have access to their data. So you can't make an informed decision like they can.

You've don't have their experience in balancing the in game economy. So you don't know what will and won't throw it off.

The only data we have is that in the past you did not need builders for walls and the economy suffered. They changed this in an effort to help the economy, and it worked. Yet you continue to insist you know better than the company that developed the game.

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Certainly not because they added a worker to the walls they worked on.
it seems I can never understand the point.
I said so much. I WANT TO KNOW, WHY ARE MY EXPLANATIONS NOT CORRECT? If you answer: the economy is interested. It's not an answer. DO NOT INDICATE WHY ECONOMY IS INFLUENSE. It is IMPORTANT . BECAUSE I give you 30 reasons that show that this is NOT REAL. You answer me with superficial things. If for you I wrote a stupid thing to aspex is not important. The subject remains the same. I do not get answers since I did the post. You answer me with the same thing, the influenced economy, I tell you my opinion and you answer me: the influenced economy. Ok maybe you're right, but why?If I do not explain to me , it's normal that I continue to believe in what I say

If NASA tells me I'm falling, I want to know why,
Do not you need to tell me: you see? NASA says it does not work.
Nobody told me why , How do you pretend to understand?
The answers you have to me are wrong in comparison to what I said later, and if they continue to be wrong (for me), I still believe in what I say.


Resource blocking has allowed to improve the economy, it is normal that it worked, the rest is n more things. If they have blocked resource reimbursement and did something else, for example: By increasing troop costs, you and the whole company said it was thanks to what the economy has improved.


I have written these uppercase words to let you know what are the important things to make me silent, do not interpret them in the wrong way, please calm above all else.

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Originally Posted by Pingotumbo

Certainly not because they added a worker to the walls they worked on.
All these chicchas are useless, it seems I can never understand the point.
I said so much. I WANT TO KNOW, WHY ARE MY EXPLANATIONS NOT CORRECT? If you answer: the economy is interested. It's not an answer. DO NOT INDICATE WHY ECONOMY IS INFLUENSE. It is IMPORTANT . BECAUSE I give you 30 reasons that show that this is NOT REAL. You answer me with superficial things. If for you I wrote a stupid thing to aspex is not important. The subject remains the same. I do not get answers since I did the post. You answer me with the same thing, the influenced economy, I tell you my opinion and you answer me: the influenced economy. Ok maybe you're right, but why?If I do not explain to me , it's normal that I continue to believe in what I say

If NASA tells me I'm falling, I want to know why,
Do not you need to tell me: you see? NASA says it does not work.
Nobody told me why , How do you pretend to understand?
The answers you have to me are wrong in comparison to what I said later, and if they continue to be wrong (for me), I still believe in what I say.


Resource blocking has allowed to improve the economy, it is normal that it worked, the rest is n more things. If they have blocked resource reimbursement and did something else, for example: By increasing troop costs, you and the whole company said it was thanks to what the economy has improved.


I have written these uppercase words to let you know what are the important things to make me silent, do not interpret them in the wrong way, please calm above all else.

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Your explanations aren't correct because they are based off faulty assumptions. You assume that the addition of these new ways to get resources would keep the economy humming. You are forgetting that these replaced a huge way loot got into the economy by way of th sniping.

Just ask yourself why do you want this so bad?So you can spend you can spend your resources before someone can come along and take them. You know that this ability would greatly benefit you. You know even if you are saving gold for a big upgrade, you can dump all of your elixir. Now multiple that over every clash player in the game. Can you see how this would effect the game?

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Originally Posted by Pingotumbo

Certainly not because they added a worker to the walls they worked on.
All these chicchas are useless, it seems I can never understand the point.
I said so much. I WANT TO KNOW, WHY ARE MY EXPLANATIONS NOT CORRECT? If you answer: the economy is interested. It's not an answer. DO NOT INDICATE WHY ECONOMY IS INFLUENSE. It is IMPORTANT . BECAUSE I give you 30 reasons that show that this is NOT REAL. You answer me with superficial things. If for you I wrote a stupid thing to aspex is not important. The subject remains the same. I do not get answers since I did the post. You answer me with the same thing, the influenced economy, I tell you my opinion and you answer me: the influenced economy. Ok maybe you're right, but why?If I do not explain to me , it's normal that I continue to believe in what I say

If NASA tells me I'm falling, I want to know why,
Do not you need to tell me: you see? NASA says it does not work.
Nobody told me why , How do you pretend to understand?
The answers you have to me are wrong in comparison to what I said later, and if they continue to be wrong (for me), I still believe in what I say.


Resource blocking has allowed to improve the economy, it is normal that it worked, the rest is n more things. If they have blocked resource reimbursement and did something else, for example: By increasing troop costs, you and the whole company said it was thanks to what the economy has improved.


I have written these uppercase words to let you know what are the important things to make me silent, do not interpret them in the wrong way, please calm above all else.

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You do realize when everyone says "economy" they are talking about the amount of gold/elixir/DE you find when raiding? Not real world economy.

One of my previous posts I gave a link from SC when they updated the game and added the worker. They gave the reason why, If you don't like the reason then maybe you should bring it up with them.

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Originally Posted by Tollboothwillie

You do realize when everyone says "economy" they are talking about the amount of gold/elixir/DE you find when raiding? Not real world economy.

One of my previous posts I gave a link from SC when they updated the game and added the worker. They gave the reason why, If you don't like the reason then maybe you should bring it up with them.

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I realize. The thing that scares me is that you doubted I understood this. Your answer is completely useless and you did not answer my questions , i put the list back:
1 - I do not care about anything that happened before

2 - before saying there are historical facts, take it and send the link where this is clear

3 - I have made concrete, historical and clear that I am giving you : it is like putting 4/5 builders at work and using the last worker just to strengthen the walls, if the walls did not require builders players They would continue to accumulate resources because otherwise they can not boost the village, furthermore, it is not possible to strengthen the walls infinitely so sooner or later players must force resources to strengthen the village.

4 - Methods have been implemented to improve the clash economy: clan wars, improved boning loot, daily booty. All these methods make it easier to accumulate resources and improve the economy, before they were not, regardless of whether what you say is true or false today the system has changed

5 - There have been far more divergent changes that have not affected the economy: 5 times faster troop creation, accumulating an army in the camp, a town hall of 2 levels below yours steals a small booty.


Please explain why these statements are false. Do not answer me: the economy is affected or clash of clans says it. It is not an answer, because my statements contradict exactly those things. Answer: wrong in calculating, miss a detail, you're wrong this. And explain why. Thank you

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Originally Posted by Somethingnotalreadypicked

Your explanations aren't correct because they are based off faulty assumptions. You assume that the addition of these new ways to get resources would keep the economy humming. You are forgetting that these replaced a huge way loot got into the economy by way of th sniping.

Just ask yourself why do you want this so bad?So you can spend you can spend your resources before someone can come along and take them. You know that this ability would greatly benefit you. You know even if you are saving gold for a big upgrade, you can dump all of your elixir. Now multiple that over every clash player in the game. Can you see how this would effect the game?

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So you can spend you can spend your resources before someone can come and pick you up. You know that this ability will greatly benefit you. You know even if you are saving gold for a great upgrade, you can download all your elixir. ( your comment )
Here, we finally have a stir. This has already been written by others, I have already given reasons that contradict what you say, This is a list I wrote in previous comments :
3 - I have made concrete, historical and clear that I am giving you: it is like putting 4/5 builders at work and using the last worker just to strengthen the walls, if the walls did not require builders players They would continue to accumulate Resources because otherwise they can not boost the village, furthermore, it is not possible to strengthen the walls infinitely so sooner or later players must force resources to strengthen the village.

4 - Methods have been implemented to improve clash economics: clan wars, improved boning loot, daily booty. All these methods make it easier to accumulate resources and improve the economy, before they were not, regardless of whether what you say is true or false today the system has changed

5 - There are far more divergent changes that have not affected the economy: 5 times faster troop creation, accumulating an army in the camp, a town hall of 2 levels below yours steals a small booty.

I think so what you said is not possible. It all depends on whether you think these statements are true regardless of the clash forum (and I also explained my concern about that forum). If you agree, I'm happy, otherwise tell me what you are not and see it together .
It's just because I did not understand why it should be a problem that this post exists. I gave my defense / thoughts on it. Tries to be inclusive .
I wrote in the post that trick of thinking about the effects of the economy, but for me these facts are discounted, it's obvious that sooner or later you have to accumulate resources and it is impossible to get out of money by enhancing the walls. Also the money does not go back. You did not want to spend them, because otherwise you can not boost your village.
In practice whoever spends money in the walls will only be those who are in their upgrading, otherwise he is forced to lose money and enough that he is almost the same to steal them