Reparations

Hi All!
First post ever in this forum, I usually just read. I have been thinking alot about this and did a search but have not seen anything on "war reparations"?
What I am suggesting is that when you are attacked and successfully defend the attack, the aggressor (loser) should have to pay you reparations in the form of loot for the loss. (Not just trophies which some people care about and other obviously don't).
My suggestion is that there be a minimum "charge" based on some tier level (I.e. 10K gold/Elixer if same level, 20K G/E if attacker was one TH higher, etc) PLUS they should pay for any traps or mines expended. I think this would make the game more interesting and get rid of all of these "1 archer" attacks where the guy just wants to level down a league but ends up costing you a 20K large mine and all you get are some trophies. It would also make people strategize differently. There could even be a nominal reparation paid if they only achieve one star, maybe just traps expended?
It makes good business sense for SC as well because attackers will want to insure victory and defenders have incentive to defend harder so dollars will flow into upgrades.
War Reparations used to be the norm (Germany had a huge bill to Europe in WW2) but do not seem to be the case in the current PC world? Let's get them back!

Just to be clear.....reparations are payment to you (the defender) by the attacker for successfully defending an attack.

This would be HORRIBLE: People wouldnt even have to attack to get free loot, they just need a good base and some shields

Worst idea...
sorry if that offends you

Except it is easy to say "worst" idea and not say why? Yes some people would not attack and would gain by being good defenders (not near as much as attacking) but, like in life (or at least the way it used to be), you should OWN and PAY for your mistakes. And you should be able to decide if you want to be defender or attacker, there is room for both in the world and this game, and not be penalized for choosing one over the other.
If you ATTACK someone and FAIL there should be a penalty to you (the loser) and a GAIN to the victor. Right now You can win a defense and still spend 1800DE and 100K+ gold, all to "win" 9 trophies.....(3 seeking mines, 3 large mines, 6 small mines, 4 traps, etc...) not balanced or fair IMHO.
If someone is leveling down by attacking with 1 archer (which is taking advantage of the game) they should pay a price. It would prevent a level 9 or 10 TH with crystal or skull walls from farming down in silver 1 or 2 leagues where there is no chance for that lower level guy to launch a revenge attack.
I would think the guys who disagree with the reparations would be guys who are the ones doing this and don't care about trophies or league points, just want to pick on lower level noobs with maxed out troops....I hope I did not offend you?

Just on a side note... from an historical point of view did you know that reparations (coming from the French the exact wording was 'Réparations de guerre' meaning fixing what war has damaged) has indirectly lead Europe to the second world war?
It caused a lot of resentment from Germans against the 'winners' because they were already in recesions and could not afford to pay a tribute of that amount. It resulted in a flagrant rise of the extremist parties in 1933. Hitler then made the rest...
So I don't think it is a so good idea... we should always learn from history :)


Cheers

Well it's a very good idea but it has dilemmas not possible to compare with real life. Think like this, I have spent my last elixir, DE and gold to make an army with spells. Then I go attack a reasonable person and I have 0 resources before the attack and just my army. Then I come on top of all those traps and get raped by some hidden teslas and I realize wow now I lost and will need to pay the war tribute. So the price is up at 120k gold and 1800DE + the "reparation costs" which would result in me getting hanged in real life war but in this game it results in what? you get free resources from nowhere like the bonus? Well would fit if my chests are empty or maybe you empty my collectors for 10 hours until the resources are paid and I wont be able to fight for that time.

Anyway the argument I have for this idea against those who said "why should one be able to keep working but not attacking just be a good defender", that is no argument against this idea as you will have to get a good defense somehow before you can keep yourself alive on others losses as in attacks. (this is a bad cycle overall anyway) So there we go you will still have to attack to be able to defend and if you get attacked by "good offensives" you will 99% chance loose the income from your "good defenses" and you will also be kept attacked by different people until you loose. Yeah so there the dilemma comes up, should the shield be removed to balance the game after this? To not make people just defend and earn cash from attackers who just want to go down in leagues/farm or is overall bad in attack. No we cant remove the shield that would keep those who wants to farm attacked the whole night and some people might not be able to sleep thinking about how their collectors wont ever fill up lol.

Ok that was just a point out to someone elses argument against this idea and I must say even though I dont think your argument said alot, I am still with you against this idea. So lets see it from another view, I am currently farming and win/loose ratio is like 50% each so we would say I get 200k gold from one attack (gold is my main focus) and gold is the cost of traps. So I am happy about those 200k gold but then I realise I loose the battle by 1% missing (quite usual loose for me) so now I have to pay someone back all those gold I fought hard for and made troops for an hour to get?
Defenitely not I shouldn't have to wait 15-60mins for an army, then use my brain hardly to get resources from another person and then if I dont get a star I have to pay all those gold back and maybe more resources then I got, already sucks to fail a battle and get less then 100k from it lol.

So if you don't know how to use tactic to earn resources more then you loose in battles then I suggest you better train your skills instead of make it worse for every single farmer in this game which is like 50% or more of all players as far as I know. Also a good defense, hell yeah I'd like to encourage people to have that but there is already a reason why you can have that, first the goal of stealing resources from other players is to afford a better defense and better troops.
The goal of having a good defense on other hand is to protect your already earned loot to be able to get a better defense and better troops. ;)

So my last suggestion is that you come and revenge me if you want your resources back which you can easily get if I have only attacked you with one single archer, you know why? Because my fallen troops do not stopp me from defending my resources in my storages so HAVE FUN trying to make me pay you a war tribute!!!

It would make farming a lot more difficult. Good point.

Great reply, well thought out. Similar to the "real life" reply earlier. That one actually proved the point. It stated the "Germans were upset" with having to pay reparations because they were already in a recession. They were in the recession because they attacked other people and LoST the war....no one attacked them. So they are upset that they now have to pay on top of losing the war (that is the basis of your argument I think as well). My answer is yes.. You decided to attack and were not good enough to win, you should pay and not only pay with the resources you lost (which do not benefit me at all) but pay for the cost to me., I am not suggesting you give ALL the loot back you gain, just a fee for the loss and for the cost. Yes, you could go negative if you do not get enough gold from the attack or not enough DE to cover the seekers, but that is the price of war! The sooner people realize there are consequences for bad decisions, bad preparation and poor execution, the better the world will be!

4 to 1.... Oh well. I will keep getting bumped into leagues I can't compete in by getting trophies from the guys moving down to farm at lower levels.