Fixing hog rider issue without a true nerf

Hog Riders are being used more and more after the update. It's true they're not overpowered in the sense that if no spells are used they can still win but I have seen videos of a Townhall 9 holding their finger down in one place to deploy all 40+ and subsequently 100%ing a maxed out Townhall 10. I think that updating the Hog Riders was the right thing to do but in the hands of even a remotely skilled player Hog Riders are too powerful, too soon.

The "fix" that came to mind was to slightly nerf the Hog Riders BUT to add a new, level 6, upgrade for Townhall 10.

The new stats would be something like:

Level 1:
DPS: 50(down from 60)
Health: 275(down from 300)
Training Cost:30

Level 2:
DPS: 60(down from 70)
Health: 325(down from 345)
Training Cost: 35

Level 3:
DPS: 72(Down from 80)
Health: 370(down from 400)
Training Cost: 40

Level 4:
DPS: 85(Down from 92)
Health: 420(Down from 460)
Training Cost: 45

Level 5:
DPS: 96(Down from 105)
Health: 480(Down from 525)
Training Cost: 50

Level 6(new):
DPS: 112
Health: 550
Training Cost: 60
Research Cost: 60,000

This will keep people using Hog Riders(and buying gems) but will reduce the chance a townhall 9 has to 100% a townhall 10.

Those numbers are just general ideas.

I posted this here since it's not a NEW troops but a change. I almost posted it in general(oops).

I still don't see a problem with a troops that's easily accessible and affordable for everyone. You can always attack somebody with hogs yourself you know. Regardless, if anything is changed, your proposal sounds reasonable.

Ya its a good idea its just anyone TH 10 can more easily 100 someone now

I don't see any reason to nerf them and make it harder for farmers before th10 to be able to attack higher levels as for example me at th8 almost maxed can still get beaten up by normal giants and archers from th10 like if I were nothing so I dont think they should be nerfed. My level 5 troops cant barely touch a good th9/10 so why should hog riders be nerfed when they actually cost pretty much which is reason why I dont make lots of them because im not wasting all my money on gems to get how much darkelixir I want its already hard to get the elixir for barbarian king.

But yeah its quite a good idea you set up anyway if they are going to nerf them just that it will be even easier for those good people to 100% lower tier people as they get better hogs then the current ones while others get worse hogs :/ (in the case a good player at th10) and I guess that most unbreakable th10 bases is made by good players and i dont know about you but this would actually overall only help those people who upgraded to th10 too early (premade)

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Originally Posted by HamsterGubben

I don't see any reason to nerf them and make it harder for farmers before th10 to be able to attack higher levels as for example me at th8 almost maxed can still get beaten up by normal giants and archers from th10 like if I were nothing so I dont think they should be nerfed. My level 5 troops cant barely touch a good th9/10 so why should hog riders be nerfed when they actually cost pretty much which is reason why I dont make lots of them because im not wasting all my money on gems to get how much darkelixir I want its already hard to get the elixir for barbarian king.

But yeah its quite a good idea you set up anyway if they are going to nerf them just that it will be even easier for those good people to 100% lower tier people as they get better hogs then the current ones while others get worse hogs :/ (in the case a good player at th10) and I guess that most unbreakable th10 bases is made by good players and i dont know about you but this would actually overall only help those people who upgraded to th10 too early (premade)

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How I feel battles should go(assuming everyone involved has maxed troops for their townhall and defenders have maxed defenses and a good enough design):

2 Townhalls below: possible 1 star with expert troops deployment
1 Townhall below: possible 2 star with good luck, good deployment and some spells.
Same level: 100% possible with either very strong troops and spells, or strong troops and expert deployment/spells

It's fine for townhall 10's to 100% each other with Hogs and witches and of course 100% those below them...but they did their time(or spent their money) they shouldn't have to live in fear of a TH9 100%ing them if they log off. A 2 star maybe but 100% is overkill.

I really understand what you mean but I think you forget the point that if a th9/10 should need experts troops/deployment and not get a 3star then the th10 in question should be quite a good base, if you go to th10 without maxed th9 then a th9/8 definitely should be able to get 2-3 stars because its more or less same as a th9 until you have started to upgrade your walls and towers to th10 only upgrades. You get what I mean? Also you have to take a look at the average wall levels most people who do not gem their walls goes to th10 before they finished tier9 wall right?

As I would say about the stars per townhall thought, its all up to the single person who play this game to decide when he/she can handle it to upgrade townhall and then if that person didnt think about that lower townhall owners will get a huge boost on loot and he/she cant defend against th8 then it was a bad decision to upgrade townhall.

I actually think the possibility to go down one townhall level is better to add to the game and ofcourse that would include removal of all newly built stuff for current town hall level but its better solution for those who didnt think before upgrade!

I didn't know the Hog Riders were broken and needed fixing...

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Originally Posted by HamsterGubben

I really understand what you mean but I think you forget the point that if a th9/10 should need experts troops/deployment and not get a 3star then the th10 in question should be quite a good base, if you go to th10 without maxed th9 then a th9/8 definitely should be able to get 2-3 stars because its more or less same as a th9 until you have started to upgrade your walls and towers to th10 only upgrades. You get what I mean? Also you have to take a look at the average wall levels most people who do not gem their walls goes to th10 before they finished tier9 wall right?

As I would say about the stars per townhall thought, its all up to the single person who play this game to decide when he/she can handle it to upgrade townhall and then if that person didnt think about that lower townhall owners will get a huge boost on loot and he/she cant defend against th8 then it was a bad decision to upgrade townhall.

I actually think the possibility to go down one townhall level is better to add to the game and ofcourse that would include removal of all newly built stuff for current town hall level but its better solution for those who didnt think before upgrade!

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Yeah, that's why I wanted to clarify that all troops, spells, or defense in question were maxed. There's a video of VIZIA being 100%'d by stuff a townhall 9 could use and all the attacker did was hold his finger down in one spot for 10 seconds then use a few spells. I'll find it.

Here's the video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O4CmBg2-_qQ

No question something is needed. Will be interesting to see what happens. Very cool video also haha