#6ayMartians warring strategy revealed!

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May 3rd, 2017
CheckMate99

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Originally Posted by Krastor

You hit the nail on the head onyxds, win a war against a well designed engineered clan, not much fun,because some of your guys have to hit bases with zero challenge or effort involved. Lose the war? Same song and dance. It becomes monotonous and boring either way

Believe me when your clan will face us, none of our bases is an easy challenge. You can see that clearly from our war log...you will be lucky to get half of the stars...Our mind power is that good.
May 3rd, 2017
Krastor

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Originally Posted by Krastor

You hit the nail on the head onyxds, win a war against a well designed engineered clan, not much fun,because some of your guys have to hit bases with zero challenge or effort involved. Lose the war? Same song and dance. It becomes monotonous and boring either way

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Originally Posted by CheckMate99

Believe me when your clan will face us, none of our bases is an easy challenge. You can see that clearly from our war log...you will be lucky to get half of the stars...Our mind power is that good.

I'm 100% sure our clans will never cross paths, and to be honest I don't really care anymore how we do in war. Clan wars is losing it's luster. But good luck to you and yours.
May 3rd, 2017
CheckMate99

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Originally Posted by SuperStorm103

I think what he is referring to is some of the posts...maybe from the congrats on 300 win streak thread.....in which there were multiple claims that the martian wars were won on the account of good attack and defense skills made by either martians members themselves or members of their fan club.

I think what the Martians definitely have is good engineering skills and good knowledge of the game workings. Anything else is just speculation as there is no solid evidence. The only thing we have to draw conclusions on is the fact they are not RHL qualified by their own site (as Denton pointed out and I mentioned earlier).

Even if there were attacks to watch...if the attacks are all dips 1-2 levels lower....how can you conclude if they are skilled attackers? You could determine lack of skill if player failed those dips regularly. But, sometimes bad attacks happen to the best players.

As a multiple account holder with different sized clan castles, I have gotten my cc's mixed up. Either I ask for the wrong troop or occasionally forget during the attack which troop is in there. I have on several occasions released my hound loon cc thinking it was a golem. Or, asked for a golem on accident and then went to war one hound short of on official loon parade. It is so shocking when you drop your cc thinking a hound will come out and drop the loons behind, just to see a golem trudging towards an unbroken wall. The funny thing is, that even with these occasional blunders I still get the triple on serious th9's, but not always!

Edit: Oh and checkmate99, welcome to the party. I was wondering when you were going to show up.

Storm: you, just like everybody posted in this thread, and that include you too OP, have no idea what kind of roster, wars and skill we may have. Everything you state is purely speculation.

When you write something about your clan, I would just assume it is the truth since I know nothing about your clan. I dont need you to prove anything either. However, if i were going to contradict anything about your say, I better bring some proof because i am not part of your clan. I wish you can offer the same courtesy. If you are going to insinuate something about my clan that is opposite to what I stated, bring some proof...
May 3rd, 2017
CheckMate99

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Originally Posted by ExpertSAQ

The first person in the war is 90% the representative of the clan attacks. Go to any clan, And check is really the first base he representative of his clan. I'm sorry if your clan is in that 10% or have failed because of bad luck.

And I didn't got kicked out, And I had a time of 15 mins through. Got into the clan after a hour, I have been accepted within one minute. I might have made a documentary.

I Don't know whether it's a temporary bug or glitchs. Your site shows every war within 4 days. It was fixed just after this post, you guys were lucky because most of the clans were closed or declined my invitation. In fact I can call you too lucky. The glitch is surely fixed by you guys.

Misinformation? What kind of misinformation you got in this thread? Just about your skills? Ok, It can be mistake from me that I called you bad attackers even you're not. As I said above, the representative of the clan is the first base, whose attack will give the impression of the clan.

Let's see your next war. The bug or glitch is surely fixed but I can still see your wars. My first preference will be to look your war Attacks, as well as I will be documenting in your wars.

This thread is made for those guys who don't know the strategy of your clan. No bad intention was there. Your streaks are threatened, your opponent clan is good enough to destroy your engineers. Your bases aren't good enough to survive th8 attacks :(. Govalks is good strategy.

I discussed with Cocp.it owner. There can sometimes be a delay of up to 6 hours before the war log is updated. It is not exactly after 4 days.

It is quite obvious you have seen nothing in our war. Your description is nowhere close to what was our roster or our opponent's.

Welcome to the club. You are certainly not the first person who shows some interest to our clan. Just ensure you follow the rule of naming and shaming on the forum.
May 3rd, 2017
Droner

http://i.imgur.com/MxX1EfS.jpg

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Originally Posted by VeeBirds

Underwhelming snapshot btw, so here's another one very outdated http://i.imgur.com/MxX1EfS.jpg

What will MM put as a mirror for this base?

PS: Sorry for resurrecting this few days necro. It takes some time for me to digest your posts. I'm not native English speaker.
May 3rd, 2017
CheckMate99

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Originally Posted by ExpertSAQ

I'm sorry, I agree it was my fault but, I'm still at my point because I have taken examples from many clan I have been to, I have been to 7 clans and all the top base were the representative of their clan. On this basis I called that they don't know much to attack. And you can't judge their skill as they get mirror much worse than their troops.

I went to ishu clan, saw your first attack...a fail for 2 stars on a th9 that had been scouted. Did I assume that you are unskilled? Of course not. I checked some more and saw the other 3 attacks from the available replay and I had to admit, the three attacks are very good.

Btw, since you are the top base, did I assume that the rest of your clan is as skilled? Of course not. I checked some more, and they are quite bad. No wonder your clan has a very average record.
May 3rd, 2017
Warios

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Originally Posted by SuperStorm103

I think what he is referring to is some of the posts...maybe from the congrats on 300 win streak thread.....in which there were multiple claims that the martian wars were won on the account of good attack and defense skills made by either martians members themselves or members of their fan club.

I think what the Martians definitely have is good engineering skills and good knowledge of the game workings. Anything else is just speculation as there is no solid evidence. The only thing we have to draw conclusions on is the fact they are not RHL qualified by their own site (as Denton pointed out and I mentioned earlier).

Even if there were attacks to watch...if the attacks are all dips 1-2 levels lower....how can you conclude if they are skilled attackers? You could determine lack of skill if player failed those dips regularly. But, sometimes bad attacks happen to the best players.

As a multiple account holder with different sized clan castles, I have gotten my cc's mixed up. Either I ask for the wrong troop or occasionally forget during the attack which troop is in there. I have on several occasions released my hound loon cc thinking it was a golem. Or, asked for a golem on accident and then went to war one hound short of on official loon parade. It is so shocking when you drop your cc thinking a hound will come out and drop the loons behind, just to see a golem trudging towards an unbroken wall. The funny thing is, that even with these occasional blunders I still get the triple on serious th9's, but not always!

Edit: Oh and checkmate99, welcome to the party. I was wondering when you were going to show up.

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Originally Posted by CheckMate99

Storm: you, just like everybody posted in this thread, and that include you too OP, have no idea what kind of roster, wars and skill we may have. Everything you state is purely speculation.

When you write something about your clan, I would just assume it is the truth since I know nothing about your clan. I dont need you to prove anything either. However, if i were going to contradict anything about your say, I better bring some proof because i am not part of your clan. I wish you can offer the same courtesy. If you are going to insinuate something about my clan that is opposite to what I stated, bring some proof...

Checkmate, Did you even read the post you just quoted and responded to? What part of Storm's post is speculation?

The part he says "Anything else is just speculation" ?
May 3rd, 2017
ChiefTuk

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Originally Posted by CheckMate99

Believe me when your clan will face us, none of our bases is an easy challenge. You can see that clearly from our war log...you will be lucky to get half of the stars...Our mind power is that good.

Does anyone else smell cabbage cooking?
May 3rd, 2017
Alishr99

21 pages of nothing...
they're good... that's it...
how good are they..??
nothing until they show in forum cup / CWL
or doing an friendly war just to show
base on their roster... we can predict what kind of difficulty of their war
or it's just simple for their last 2 war to show...
or maybe they've nothing to show... nothing to prove
they good at their own... number doesn't lie
for me... the day engineering becomes widely spread virus in war.. is the day when a win / streak become nothing more than a number
May 3rd, 2017
ExpertSAQ

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Originally Posted by CheckMate99

I went to inshu clan, saw your first attack...a fail for 2 stars on a th9 that had been scouted. Did I assume that you are unskilled? Of course not. I checked some more and saw the other 3 attacks from the available replay and I had to admit, the three attacks are very good.

Btw, since you are the top base, did I assume that the rest of your clan is as skilled? Of course not. I checked some more, and they are quite bad. No wonder your clan has a very average record.

There's a big dispute in our clan. Due to the dispute, I intentionally failed on base 1. I left the clan last war and didn't even attack. Now after this all, it does make sense about the representative figure of the clan? Other 3 star attacks can be my good luck otherwise I'm not a good attacker.

BTW, I'm not wondering how do you got my clan because I know you guys always keep a very sharp watch on all the players.

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Originally Posted by CheckMate99

I discussed with Cocp.it owner. There can sometimes be a delay of up to 6 hours before the war log is updated. It is not exactly after 4 days.

It is quite obvious you have seen nothing in our war. Your description is nowhere close to what was our roster or our opponent's.

Welcome to the club. You are certainly not the first person who shows some interest to our clan. Just ensure you follow the rule of naming and shaming on the forum.

It's obvious, I got very less time in which I just saw some of the bases. If my brain is good enough. That war the trash girl was #15 base and NastyMcStab was #1, Vsc1992.jr was #3 base. Shogey candy and Barcher at last two bases. I should have taken a snapshot of all the bases. Didn't got enough time. You guys really had nice luck.

I still don't believe you guys about the cocp.it, For 4 consecutive wars, the war log showing it before the time it get disappeared. Just after this post it got fixed by a fixed time. 4 days 2 hours.
May 3rd, 2017
ExpertSAQ

Quote:

Originally Posted by CheckMate99

Believe me when your clan will face us, none of our bases is an easy challenge. You can see that clearly from our war log...you will be lucky to get half of the stars...Our mind power is that good.

If your clan get matched with us. My brother will probably break your winning streak down to 0. Just need that roster you guys use for war. My brother is very skilled attacker. Mind it!
May 3rd, 2017
ExpertSAQ

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Originally Posted by Droner

http://i.imgur.com/MxX1EfS.jpg

What will MM put as a mirror for this base?

PS: Sorry for resurrecting this few days necro. It takes some time for me to digest your posts. I'm not native English speaker.

Have a look at its war bonus, must be a mid TH9s mirror.
May 3rd, 2017
ExpertSAQ

Quote:

Originally Posted by CheckMate99

I went to ishu clan, saw your first attack...a fail for 2 stars on a th9 that had been scouted. Did I assume that you are unskilled? Of course not. I checked some more and saw the other 3 attacks from the available replay and I had to admit, the three attacks are very good.

Btw, since you are the top base, did I assume that the rest of your clan is as skilled? Of course not. I checked some more, and they are quite bad. No wonder your clan has a very average record.

We had a very good log before we had a dispute. We always win around 7 wars in a row after every loss. Best we got was 14 winning streak.

Hmm....you guys have good sense of disguise, finally you got who was I in your contest. Through tag, you searched me and had look about my clan in your site, through you got our logs. I guess this is a very possible reason to get our logs. 😈
May 3rd, 2017
OnyxDS

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Originally Posted by CheckMate99

How many clans have 200+ wins streak? I highly doubt any of our opponents freak out and quit after meeting us. The chance they will meet another clan like us is zero! Many of our opponents have very good record both before and after facing us.

For someone who know a thing or two about mm, I am surprised you show so little understanding about the kind of opponents we generally face...

Well, as you point out elsewhere we don't know what line-up you run. I haven't even checked what's visible of your bases publicly recently. So I have no idea what sort of roster your opponents have.

But to be honest my 200 win streak was a simplification. I'm guessing you will get clans with high win streaks. Even for us, going past 10 win streak the system seems to be refusing to give us any opponent with less than about 5 win streak. So in your case I'd guess it will be doing the same or more so - implying your opponents would have good records (probably engineers themselves in many cases)

So... it's true that probably the huge win streak clans are not so much the problem. It's all the ones we're seeing with 5-10 win streaks, masses of 8.11 and 9.11 bases and spamming dragons and lavaloon at everything. Bad attackers and, more importantly, boring attackers. Their win streaks may not sound impressive from your lofty heights, but if they're winning 80%-90% of their wars that's still a lot of upset enemies. We're not happy and they didn't even beat us (yet - today's one is still probably impossible, although they've thrown away so many attacks that's no longer quite as certain as it was)
May 3rd, 2017
Matteliszt

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Originally Posted by OnyxDS

Well, as you point out elsewhere we don't know what line-up you run. I haven't even checked what's visible of your bases publicly recently. So I have no idea what sort of roster your opponents have.

But to be honest my 200 win streak was a simplification. I'm guessing you will get clans with high win streaks. Even for us, going past 10 win streak the system seems to be refusing to give us any opponent with less than about 5 win streak. So in your case I'd guess it will be doing the same or more so - implying your opponents would have good records (probably engineers themselves in many cases)

So... it's true that probably the huge win streak clans are not so much the problem. It's all the ones we're seeing with 5-10 win streaks, masses of 8.11 and 9.11 bases and spamming dragons and lavaloon at everything. Bad attackers and, more importantly, boring attackers. Their win streaks may not sound impressive from your lofty heights, but if they're winning 80%-90% of their wars that's still a lot of upset enemies. We're not happy and they didn't even beat us (yet - today's one is still probably impossible, although they've thrown away so many attacks that's no longer quite as certain as it was)

My anticedotal experience is not the same at all, my clan is on a long war streak (think 60-70) and our enemies are a total crapshoot. It just depends on whose queuing at the same time as you. Sometimes we get good clans and have nice wars, other times we get bad clans and have easy wars. The variance in the pool of potential enemies is pretty much the only factor

As an addendum though - I have seen the clans you're talking about with the low level hero/max dragon th11 spam. The thing is, that doesn't win wars (as you said) against well designed bases.
May 3rd, 2017
JFSoul

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Originally Posted by ExpertSAQ

Very long conversation between kimchilove and SuperStorm103 and wookyfloyd.

This was brilliant.
May 3rd, 2017
ReplicantRachel

@ ExpertSAQ:

Thanks for your interest in #6ayMartians, I read that you participated in the contest which we all enjoyed very much, I hope you had fun as well :)

(By the way 1st place winner did join the clan and 2nd place winner has our doors open for when he is ready to join ^^)

Regarding your video documentary, I would just like to add that any particular war would not reflect the way we operate at all since we constantly make roster rotations, our th11's are in on the fun as well! :heart:

Also is there any timeframe for the completion of that video documentary? It has been a while since you started this thread :/
But let me be clear that we haven't agreed on the creation of such a thing and even less the release of it to the public so I will have to report you for naming and shaming.

We like to keep a low profile otherwise we would already have done a video ourselves, don't you think?
May 3rd, 2017
Vikingchief

Quote:

Originally Posted by CheckMate99

Believe me when your clan will face us, none of our bases is an easy challenge. You can see that clearly from our war log...you will be lucky to get half of the stars...Our mind power is that good.

i went to visit a clan that you guys defeated to try work out how this happens, assuming your from the clan I think you are. The opponents struck me as beginners, as green as you come. They thought it was normal for some people to miss attacks. They could describe why your based were difficult, one member said they had square bases. It definitely did not feel like the creams of the crop. Of course this is just one sample.

I makes me wonder if you guys have figured out that if you have a certain rostar, with bases behaving a certain way, and you behave a certain way in the war, and if you search at a certain time with a certain war size, you not only will achieve a war where you bases are stronger than your opponents, but also that it ends up being the most dedicated clan in clash, versus a mega casual clan.

wouldnt be suprissed if you guys have figured out something like this, and I don't mean it in a bad way, it would be very impressive to be able to do that analysis and draw the right conclusions.

Now tinfoil hat time. Sometimes, when the sky is dark and the moon is full, I wonder if you get a war that may be close, you guys gem a bunch, win the war, and replace those accounts with accounts of the same name, so no one realizes that tactic. Lol, tinfoil hat off.

whatver you guys do you do I damn well. If supercell wants to look how to balance the matchmaker, they should have a glance at your clan.

Again, max respect for the level of excellence you have achieved.
May 3rd, 2017
SuperStorm103

Quote:

Originally Posted by CheckMate99

Storm: you, just like everybody posted in this thread, and that include you too OP, have no idea what kind of roster, wars and skill we may have. Everything you state is purely speculation.

When you write something about your clan, I would just assume it is the truth since I know nothing about your clan. I dont need you to prove anything either. However, if i were going to contradict anything about your say, I better bring some proof because i am not part of your clan. I wish you can offer the same courtesy. If you are going to insinuate something about my clan that is opposite to what I stated, bring some proof...

Did you quote the wrong post? I cannot draw any lines between my post and your response. I am taking you at your word....I have even tried to pass on your statements regarding CWL competition. If you read all my posts, I have given credit where credit is due and tried to reinforce the fact that we cannot say what your clans attack skills are. I have yet to flame you guys on any "speculation". Maybe you should take some time and read my posts rather than lumping me in with everybody else.

If you are referring to my RHL comment.....well that is a fact that is out there for everybody to see. You have nothing to prove to me. And, I don't expect you too.

If you read my post you quoted, you would see I gave you credit everywhere I could based on facts we do know. And, called everything else speculation.

You have good Engineering Skills: Specialized Villages / High win streak
Knowledge of the game: Your website/building guide

I even said you guys were best in the business.

For somebody with so much apparent attention to detail, I'm surprised how far off you are with my posts. The only explanation is you read the first sentence, or skimmed and picked up a few key words. You should take the time and read them fully and you will see I am not criticizing your or your clan.

Your welcome
May 3rd, 2017
SuperStorm103

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vikingchief

i went to visit a clan that you guys defeated to try work out how this happens, assuming your from the clan I think you are. The opponents struck me as beginners, as green as you come. They thought it was normal for some people to miss attacks. They could describe why your based were difficult, one member said they had square bases. It definitely did not feel like the creams of the crop. Of course this is just one sample.

I makes me wonder if you guys have figured out that if you have a certain rostar, with bases behaving a certain way, and you behave a certain way in the war, and if you search at a certain time with a certain war size, you not only will achieve a war where you bases are stronger than your opponents, but also that it ends up being the most dedicated clan in clash, versus a mega casual clan.

wouldnt be suprissed if you guys have figured out something like this, and I don't mean it in a bad way, it would be very impressive to be able to do that analysis and draw the right conclusions.

Now tinfoil hat time. Sometimes, when the sky is dark and the moon is full, I wonder if you get a war that may be close, you guys gem a bunch, win the war, and replace those accounts with accounts of the same name, so no one realizes that tactic. Lol, tinfoil hat off.

whatver you guys do you do I damn well. If supercell wants to look how to balance the matchmaker, they should have a glance at your clan.

Again, max respect for the level of excellence you have achieved.

Tinfoil hat back on....

What if they don't even really care about wars anymore. They are just going through the motions to show SC how they are failing. Sort of like public shaming lol. They are taunting SC to try to outsmart them by changing up the MatchMaker. I mean really, after 300+ wins streak and larger than any other clan out there. What is there left to prove in that area of the game? They clearly have the Matchmaker subdued. Wonder if it bugs SC that they cant break their streak?

Tinfoil hat off....
May 3rd, 2017
kimchilove

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Originally Posted by ReplicantRachel

@ ExpertSAQ:

Thanks for your interest in #6ayMartians, I read that you participated in the contest which we all enjoyed very much, I hope you had fun as well :)

(By the way 1st place winner did join the clan and 2nd place winner has our doors open for when he is ready to join ^^)

Regarding your video documentary, I would just like to add that any particular war would not reflect the way we operate at all since we constantly make roster rotations, our th11's are in on the fun as well! :heart:

Also is there any timeframe for the completion of that video documentary? It has been a while since you started this thread :/
But let me be clear that we haven't agreed on the creation of such a thing and even less the release of it to the public so I will have to report you for naming and shaming.

We like to keep a low profile otherwise we would already have done a video ourselves, don't you think?

Sigh the contradiction is strong in this one obi won clashobi. Low profile yet make a post celebrating (boasting?) Of their streak?
May 3rd, 2017
Vikingchief

Quote:

Originally Posted by ReplicantRachel

@ ExpertSAQ:

Thanks for your interest in #6ayMartians, I read that you participated in the contest which we all enjoyed very much, I hope you had fun as well :)

(By the way 1st place winner did join the clan and 2nd place winner has our doors open for when he is ready to join ^^)

Regarding your video documentary, I would just like to add that any particular war would not reflect the way we operate at all since we constantly make roster rotations, our th11's are in on the fun as well! :heart:

Also is there any timeframe for the completion of that video documentary? It has been a while since you started this thread :/
But let me be clear that we haven't agreed on the creation of such a thing and even less the release of it to the public so I will have to report you for naming and shaming.

We like to keep a low profile otherwise we would already have done a video ourselves, don't you think?

1 is he going to post the documentary on the forum?
2 if your proud of what your doing, and your not breaking any rules, is it really naming and shaming?

or were you making a joke that this thread was a documentary?
May 3rd, 2017
ExpertSAQ

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Originally Posted by Vikingchief

1 is he going to post the documentary on the forum?
2 if your proud of what your doing, and your not breaking any rules, is it really naming and shaming?

or were you making a joke that this thread was a documentary?

I swear this is not a joke, I promised to make a documentry but they fixed their site, Now its like very hard(2% chances) to make a documentry

I dont why I'm going to be reported for naming and shaming for no reason?
May 3rd, 2017
ExpertSAQ

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vikingchief

Naming and shaming only applies if you planned to release the documentary in the forum (as far as forum rules go).

Then I am not sure if a clan with 300 war wins in a row could be named and shamed, depends I suppose on what you said and how you said it.

No naming and shaming then,
May 3rd, 2017
Vikingchief

Quote:

Originally Posted by ExpertSAQ

I swear this is not a joke, I promised to make a documentry but they fixed their site, Now its like very hard(2% chances) to make a documentry

I dont why I'm going to be reported for naming and shaming for no reason?

Naming and shaming only applies if you planned to release the documentary in the forum (as far as forum rules go).

Then I am not sure if a clan with 300 war wins in a row could be named and shamed, depends I suppose on what you said and how you said it.
May 3rd, 2017
ExpertSAQ

Quote:

Originally Posted by ExpertSAQ

I will try to upload a video on the #6ayMartians war asap if I get their war details from their site and share it you

I included "if I get their war details"(Which I didnt got so far).
May 3rd, 2017
CheckMate99

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vikingchief

i went to visit a clan that you guys defeated to try work out how this happens, assuming your from the clan I think you are. The opponents struck me as beginners, as green as you come. They thought it was normal for some people to miss attacks. They could describe why your based were difficult, one member said they had square bases. It definitely did not feel like the creams of the crop. Of course this is just one sample.

I makes me wonder if you guys have figured out that if you have a certain rostar, with bases behaving a certain way, and you behave a certain way in the war, and if you search at a certain time with a certain war size, you not only will achieve a war where you bases are stronger than your opponents, but also that it ends up being the most dedicated clan in clash, versus a mega casual clan.

wouldnt be suprissed if you guys have figured out something like this, and I don't mean it in a bad way, it would be very impressive to be able to do that analysis and draw the right conclusions.

Now tinfoil hat time. Sometimes, when the sky is dark and the moon is full, I wonder if you get a war that may be close, you guys gem a bunch, win the war, and replace those accounts with accounts of the same name, so no one realizes that tactic. Lol, tinfoil hat off.

whatver you guys do you do I damn well. If supercell wants to look how to balance the matchmaker, they should have a glance at your clan.

Again, max respect for the level of excellence you have achieved.

Viking: you are giving us way too much credit. Our mind power is good, but not that good. We visited that clan while you and many other stalkers/hunters joined in order to get info on us. Our whole clan had a great laugh. As you have seen none of that clan member was able to provide any significant details about a war that just occured 4 days before....no wonder OP can't recall anything about a war that happened a month ago and that he was able to view for only 5 minutes....

In any case, that clan was a 'anybody can join' clan....no wonder they are very green...
May 3rd, 2017
ChiefTuk

Quote:

Originally Posted by ReplicantRachel

Also is there any timeframe for the completion of that video documentary? It has been a while since you started this thread :/
But let me be clear that we haven't agreed on the creation of such a thing and even less the release of it to the public so I will have to report you for naming and shaming.

We like to keep a low profile otherwise we would already have done a video ourselves, don't you think?

He might get banned from the SC forums, but YouTube doesn't seem to care whether both clans agreed to televise the Revolution... err, I mean war.

The fact is that you guys want to enjoy the notoriety of your win streak, while doing every thing in your power to prevent anyone from figuring out what your doing. The CWL, as imperfect as it is, is at least very open & transparent about everything in their wars. I'd have somewhat more regard for what the Martians are doing if they were actually encouraging others to follow their model & give them a challenge. It speaks volumes that you're concerned enough about having what you do made public, that you're using the threat of a forum ban...
May 3rd, 2017
CheckMate99

Quote:

Originally Posted by ExpertSAQ

Have a look at its war bonus, must be a mid TH9s mirror.

How can the mirror be a mid th9 when you said the top bases we faced is only a max th8?
May 3rd, 2017
CheckMate99

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnyxDS

Well, as you point out elsewhere we don't know what line-up you run. I haven't even checked what's visible of your bases publicly recently. So I have no idea what sort of roster your opponents have.

But to be honest my 200 win streak was a simplification. I'm guessing you will get clans with high win streaks. Even for us, going past 10 win streak the system seems to be refusing to give us any opponent with less than about 5 win streak. So in your case I'd guess it will be doing the same or more so - implying your opponents would have good records (probably engineers themselves in many cases)

So... it's true that probably the huge win streak clans are not so much the problem. It's all the ones we're seeing with 5-10 win streaks, masses of 8.11 and 9.11 bases and spamming dragons and lavaloon at everything. Bad attackers and, more importantly, boring attackers. Their win streaks may not sound impressive from your lofty heights, but if they're winning 80%-90% of their wars that's still a lot of upset enemies. We're not happy and they didn't even beat us (yet - today's one is still probably impossible, although they've thrown away so many attacks that's no longer quite as certain as it was)

What i meant is that with your knowledge, you should have known that we face mostly fair match ups, winnable match ups if our enemies are skilled. In fact we have seen a few cases where our enemies are calling us noobs and rushed and they are salivating the prospect of ending our streak before battle day. Therefore it is doubtful they will be so demoralized for losing to us that they will quit. In many cases, their war log would have string of green lines with an unexplainable red line in the middle...
May 3rd, 2017
CheckMate99

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefTuk

He might get banned from the SC forums, but YouTube doesn't seem to care whether both clans agreed to televise the Revolution... err, I mean war.

The fact is that you guys want to enjoy the notoriety of your win streak, while doing every thing in your power to prevent anyone from figuring out what your doing. The CWL, as imperfect as it is, is at least very open & transparent about everything in their wars. I'd have somewhat more regard for what the Martians are doing if they were actually encouraging others to follow their model & give them a challenge. It speaks volumes that you're concerned enough about having what you do made public, that you're using the threat of a forum ban...

You really want to compare us to Cheater War league, after what was reported by cnaf yesterday ...stuff we knew a long long time ago...and that is why we won't go there. CWL is so overrated.

Don't respect our way of playing? Fine. You do (try to do) the same engineering stuff, yet can't even achieve a 10 wins streak...
May 3rd, 2017
Matteliszt

Quote:

Originally Posted by CheckMate99

What i meant is that with your knowledge, you should have known that we face mostly fair match ups, winnable match ups if our enemies are skilled. In fact we have seen a few cases where our enemies are calling us noobs and rushed and they are salivating the prospect of ending our streak before battle day. Therefore it is doubtful they will be so demoralized for losing to us that they will quit. In many cases, their war log would have string of green lines with an unexplainable red line in the middle...

Regardless of what anyone says this is true of any clan who has obtained 50+ win streak.
May 3rd, 2017
ChiefTuk

Quote:

Originally Posted by CheckMate99

You really want to compare us to Cheater War league, after what was reported by cnaf yesterday ...stuff we knew a long long time ago...and that is why we won't go there. CWL is so overrated.

Don't respect our way of playing? Fine. You do (try to do) the same engineering stuff, yet can't even achieve a 10 wins streak...

I'm running a clan of very mixed abilities & yeah, we do use .5s & a couple of lopsided TH9s. I can at least go to the CWL to see some new attacking styles that I can tell my clanmates to try them out.

You guys are extremely good at what you do, but don't contribute anything to the community except controversy. Maybe you can send some players to the upcoming Forum FC tournament, so we can see your attacking ability & brilliant defensive layouts.
May 3rd, 2017
ReplicantRachel

Quote:

Originally Posted by kimchilove

Sigh the contradiction is strong in this one obi won clashobi. Low profile yet make a post celebrating (boasting?) Of their streak?

Seriously Kimchi the only positive thing I can think about you is that you challenge my patience.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vikingchief

1 is he going to post the documentary on the forum?
2 if your proud of what your doing, and your not breaking any rules, is it really naming and shaming?

or were you making a joke that this thread was a documentary?

Quote:

Originally Posted by ExpertSAQ

I swear this is not a joke, I promised to make a documentry but they fixed their site, Now its like very hard(2% chances) to make a documentry

I dont why I'm going to be reported for naming and shaming for no reason?

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefTuk

He might get banned from the SC forums, but YouTube doesn't seem to care whether both clans agreed to televise the Revolution... err, I mean war.

The fact is that you guys want to enjoy the notoriety of your win streak, while doing every thing in your power to prevent anyone from figuring out what your doing. The CWL, as imperfect as it is, is at least very open & transparent about everything in their wars. I'd have somewhat more regard for what the Martians are doing if they were actually encouraging others to follow their model & give them a challenge. It speaks volumes that you're concerned enough about having what you do made public, that you're using the threat of a forum ban...

Any of you know the word privacy?

Even though the clan feels like sharing some of their events/ milestones (I mean what is this forum for if not sharing experiences?) it's only decent to respect their privacy as well.

@ChiefTuk please read this https://forum.supercell.com/showthre...sh-Ranks-Story
May 3rd, 2017
ChiefTuk

Quote:

Originally Posted by ReplicantRachel

Any of you know the word privacy?

Even though the clan feels like sharing some of their events/ milestones (I mean what is this forum for if not sharing experiences?) it's only decent to respect their privacy as well.

@ChiefTuk please read this https://forum.supercell.com/showthre...sh-Ranks-Story

That's old news to me, Rachel. CWL is doing what they can to enforce fair play by using internal rules on people leaving clans during war & they are becoming more aggressive about throwing out anyone who gets caught using TPA on any account. They seem to be realizing that they need to be more transparent about the problem, not try to conceal it. But, it's up to SC to really figure out how to catch modding. If you haven't figured it out, my main interest in CWL is to see what attacks they are using. It's deplorable that anyone would be using TPA to sandbox war attacks, but the results are at least useful to me as a clean player.

If you really wanted privacy, you wouldn't be posting contests to join or coming here to brag about your win streak. You post, we respond. Best way to protect your privacy, is to keep a low profile, like you said. You're coming off like a Kardashian, lol.

*EDIT: I should add that whoever maintains Cocp.it is doing good work on behalf of the community, even if one of it's main purposes is to advertise the win streak.
May 3rd, 2017
ReplicantRachel

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefTuk

If you really wanted privacy, you wouldn't be posting contests to join or coming here to brag about your win streak. You post, we respond. Best way to protect your privacy, is to keep a low profile, like you said. You're coming off like a Kardashian, lol.

*EDIT: I should add that whoever maintains Cocp.it is doing good work on behalf of the community, even if one of it's main purposes is to advertise the win streak.

Gee what the Kardashians have to do with anything in this thread?!
I'm only saying that clan shares what they want to share and people should respect their wishes of privacy.

I don't think it's the goal of the clan to be a model to be followed at all, having fun is enough ^^
And who wants to run an entire site just to promote a win streak? I find that just silly! You can find our streak by other means as well.

Cocp.it info is way more valuable for it to be just for indulging in vanity, I hope you appreciate that.
May 3rd, 2017
Vikingchief

Quote:

Originally Posted by CheckMate99

Viking: you are giving us way too much credit. Our mind power is good, but not that good. We visited that clan while you and many other stalkers/hunters joined in order to get info on us. Our whole clan had a great laugh. As you have seen none of that clan member was able to provide any significant details about a war that just occured 4 days before....no wonder OP can't recall anything about a war that happened a month ago and that he was able to view for only 5 minutes....

In any case, that clan was a 'anybody can join' clan....no wonder they are very green...

if fairness the fact that they were an anyone can join clan, which made them self selecting beginners, was the reason we all went to go look (no please accept me dance) For me then allthough it's some information, the value is incredibly weak. But you wrong on one point, the whole world now knows;

Martians use square bases!!!

you heard it here first folks.
May 3rd, 2017
Vikingchief

Quote:

Originally Posted by ReplicantRachel

Seriously Kimchi the only positive thing I can think about you is that you challenge my patience.

Any of you know the word privacy?

Even though the clan feels like sharing some of their events/ milestones (I mean what is this forum for if not sharing experiences?) it's only decent to respect their privacy as well.

@ChiefTuk please read this https://forum.supercell.com/showthre...sh-Ranks-Story

Replicant I love your clan and your site, but you can be hilarious at times. You guys publish wars logs of clans who keep their logs private (total legal and I think ethical but views will vary), but given you publish this data against the wishes of many clans who shout invasion of privacy, don't you think you being slightly hypocritical.

Yous a famous clan, your on a public forum, your opinionated, you share very valuable information with the community, you guys are geniuses, you guys apply yourselfs, you guys are a lot of things, but you are anything but private, and you certainly can't post fingers at others unless you have changed your war log display policy.
May 3rd, 2017
ChiefTuk

Quote:

Originally Posted by ReplicantRachel

Gee what the Kardashians have to do with anything in this thread?!
I'm only saying that clan shares what they want to share and people should respect their wishes of privacy.

I don't think it's the goal of the clan to be a model to be followed at all, having fun is enough ^^
And who wants to run an entire site just to promote a win streak? I find that just silly! You can find our streak by other means as well.

Cocp.it info is way more valuable for it to be just for indulging in vanity, I hope you appreciate that.

Really? What's "For Best win Streaks Records visit https://cocp.it/tops" about, then?

Like the Kardashians, you want adulation on your own terms, but get really touchy when faced with criticism & hide behind pleas for people to respect your privacy. The more you promote the win streak, the more people will try to diminish it or seek to copy it. Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery, yet you don't want people to even try. Seems like you worry if too many people do it, it will ruin the "Martian Mind Power" brand...
May 3rd, 2017
Vikingchief

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefTuk

Really? What's "For Best win Streaks Records visit https://cocp.it/tops" about, then?

Like the Kardashians, you want adulation on your own terms, but get really touchy when faced with criticism & hide behind pleas for people to respect your privacy. The more you promote the win streak, the more people will try to diminish it or seek to copy it. Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery, yet you don't want people to even try. Seems like you worry if too many people do it, it will ruin the "Martian Mind Power" brand...

Chieftuk I've gotton slightly lost in this thread, what is replicant and co arguing about? A neutral version if you don't mind.
May 3rd, 2017
xXXCHRISXXx

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vikingchief

You guys publish wars logs of clans who keep their logs private (total legal and I think ethical but views will vary), but given you publish this data against the wishes of many clans who shout invasion of privacy, don't you think you being slightly hypocritical.

Lol, I was trying to stay out of this thread, this comment though, Spot on Viking!
May 3rd, 2017
Vikingchief

Quote:

Originally Posted by ReplicantRachel

@ ExpertSAQ:

Regarding your video documentary, I would just like to add that any particular war would not reflect the way we operate at all since we constantly make roster rotations, our th11's are in on the fun as well! :heart:

Also is there any timeframe for the completion of that video documentary? It has been a while since you started this thread :/
But let me be clear that we haven't agreed on the creation of such a thing and even less the release of it to the public so I will have to report you for naming and shaming.

We like to keep a low profile otherwise we would already have done a video ourselves, don't you think?

replicant you gonna have to help me understand your points, and I want to be on your side.

1 yes no one war is representative, but it is more information than less, if you displayed on your most website your recent wars we could go have a look in those clans and see the normal types of war you fight. If you want to squash rumors your fighting noobs, why not publish this data so we can all go look for ourselves. If you don't it looks like you want to hide it.

2 your claim you want to maintain a low profile, despite having a website, and staying busy on the forums, isn't consistent with keeping a low profile. Yes the site helps pays the bills, but your here part to help and part for exposure. You don't seam genuine, it's seams like you trying to pressurize expertSAQ not to release his movie, which seams now to be a lame duck but that's besides the point.

3 your threat to to report expert SAQ for naming and shaming, where you say the reason you will report him is you have not given pemission, is not logically sound. You can only report him in the forum if he releases something on the forum as far as I know? Maybe I'm wrong.

I don't know why you don't just own your awesome. You are the most successful metric based clashes that are, that were and that ever will be. When they write the book of coc you guys should get a chapter. Some people don't like what you do, but you guys love it.

Instead of worrying if people will think your getting easy matches, and you are a lot, and pretending you have some sort of mind power (we not 11 year olds, allthough that may be an inside joke you guys tell not intended to be serious), just say we're the greatest metrics based clashers, our achievements will never be matched, our skill level will always be questions, and our tactics will raise eyebrows.

But we don't care. #streakto500
May 3rd, 2017
ReplicantRachel

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vikingchief

Replicant I love your clan and your site, but you can be hilarious at times. You guys publish wars logs of clans who keep their logs private (total legal and I think ethical but views will vary), but given you publish this data against the wishes of many clans who shout invasion of privacy, don't you think you being slightly hypocritical.

Yous a famous clan, your on a public forum, your opinionated, you share very valuable information with the community, you guys are geniuses, you guys apply yourselfs, you guys are a lot of things, but you are anything but private, and you certainly can't post fingers at others unless you have changed your war log display policy.

What war log policy? Cocp.it 's? The site hides last 2 wars for everyone! And also shows our log as well (because many complained about that also) I think is fair, don't you?

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefTuk

Really? What's "For Best win Streaks Records visit https://cocp.it/tops" about, then?

Like the Kardashians, you want adulation on your own terms, but get really touchy when faced with criticism & hide behind pleas for people to respect your privacy. The more you promote the win streak, the more people will try to diminish it or seek to copy it. Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery, yet you don't want people to even try. Seems like you worry if too many people do it, it will ruin the "Martian Mind Power" brand...

Pffff so nobody can post a nice thing about their clan otherwise you run the risk of being called a Diva :heart: I think I can live with that :D

Best Win Streak record is just for that! For everyone to be able to see their best win streak record since the game does not save that information, just the current one.

By the way there's also the RHL which is better than CWL because it considers ALL high level (Th9-Th11) clans not just few "elite" clans
May 3rd, 2017
Vikingchief

Quote:

Originally Posted by xXXCHRISXXx

Lol, I was trying to stay out of this thread, this comment though, Spot on Viking!

Whats happening to me, ever since you caught me in the engineering sandbagging paradox, my forum experience is in a downward spiral, first, you made perfect sense in a thread, then i started to muse th idea of a small townhall weighting to combat manicure accounts (debunked it quickly but still it happened), now I'm fighting with my clanidols, and finally you thought my comment was spot on.

All that I need now is for Aspex to arrive with a birthday present, and I'll know I'm in wonderland.
May 3rd, 2017
Vikingchief

Quote:

Originally Posted by ReplicantRachel

What war log policy? Cocp.it 's? The site hides last 2 wars for everyone! And also shows our log as well (because many complained about that also) I think is fair, don't you?

rachel, I don't believe you cannot see the sliver of hypocrisy whereby you site shows data people would prefer remained private, and then asking expert to not show data because you would prefer it remained private?

you see the problem right?
May 3rd, 2017
ReplicantRachel

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vikingchief

rachell, I don't believe you cannot see the sliver of hypocrisy whereby you site shows data people would prefer remained private, and then asking expert to not show data because you would prefer it remained private?

you see the problem right?

Viking I already said that what the site shows from everyone it shows from our clan as well :)

Im not going around publishing videos of every clan now am I?

And just to clarify it is not my website or my clan's, the developer is just a friend :)
May 3rd, 2017
Vikingchief

Quote:

Originally Posted by ReplicantRachel

Viking I already said that what we show for everyone we show from our side as well :)

Im not going around publishing videos of every clan now am I?

And just to clarify it is not my website or my clan's, the developer is just a friend :)

on the last point, maybe, but you are connected to it.

you are clearly a very intelligent person, so I cannot believe you cannot see what I am saying. For the sake of clarity, let's ignore the complexity of the link between Martians and the website. Would you grant me, if I said.

If the website is your clans website (IF), this is a philosophical discussion now for simplicity, would you agree, that it could seam hypocritical of you to ask someone not to publish something you want kept private, yet publish the logs data of people who do not want it published, they want it private.

you argument that you publish your own logs to, is no more relevant than expertSAQ sayings he's also publishing a documentary on himself, so it's all fair. It has nothing to do with the fact you don't want a documentary as you want that information private, as people who want the war logs private, is not impacted in any way that you are happy to show your data.

thats like me posting naked pics of someone on line, and then posting naked pics of myself, and I'm saying but I published pictures of myself to so it must be fair.

come on RR, I know you understand and accept my point, assuming it was your website.

lets see if we can agree in principle before heading into the murky world of reality.
May 3rd, 2017
Skrags

Quote:

Originally Posted by ReplicantRachel

We like to keep a low profile

Interesting to say the least. 🤔

Quote:

Originally Posted by CheckMate99

What i meant is that with your knowledge, you should have known that we face mostly fair match ups, ..

Interesting too, I'm honestly lost for words right now. 🤔

I actually miss Tango reading this....never thought I'd say that publically. 🙁
May 3rd, 2017
Vikingchief

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skrags

Interesting to say the least. ��

Interesting too, I'm honestly lost for words right now. ��

I actually miss Tango reading this....never thought I'd say that publically. ��

surely you know they usually have very even wars from the matchmaker, why I'm willing to bet they will let a respected forumer like yourself in the clan to have a look at their last 2 war matchups to prove it.

or release the details of there current war some can go to check the enemy clan.

surely?

on a totally separate note, a wise old sage once told me, the truth has nothing to fear from the light.

tnis feels like winterfell gods 2, Mars attacks westeros.
May 3rd, 2017
kimchilove

Quote:

Originally Posted by ReplicantRachel

Seriously Kimchi the only positive thing I can think about you is that you challenge my patience.

Any of you know the word privacy?

Even though the clan feels like sharing some of their events/ milestones (I mean what is this forum for if not sharing experiences?) it's only decent to respect their privacy as well.

@ChiefTuk please read this https://forum.supercell.com/showthre...sh-Ranks-Story

My extra strong mind power is indicating to me that u dont like me. Gasp. Must b clearly bc im a jerk n nothing to do with fact of what yall say eh? Bad kimchi bad!
May 3rd, 2017
OnyxDS

Quote:

Originally Posted by CheckMate99

What i meant is that with your knowledge, you should have known that we face mostly fair match ups, winnable match ups if our enemies are skilled. In fact we have seen a few cases where our enemies are calling us noobs and rushed ...

No. Just no. If you've manicured your bases properly, and if you're matching below 70k weight any opponent that isn't heavily engineered should have no chance whatsoever. When a TH9 has to attack a base with level 9 teslas and level 14 ATs it's very ugly. And if they think your bases are rushed, they can't possibly be well-engineered, therefore their attacking skill is going to be largely irrelevant.
May 3rd, 2017
OnyxDS

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skrags

Interesting too, I'm honestly lost for words right now. 樂

I actually miss Tango reading this....never thought I'd say that publically. 

You're all wrong! You're all wrong! You all know nothing!

There - feeling any better now?
May 3rd, 2017
Clashheadz

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnyxDS

No. Just no. If you've manicured your bases properly, and if you're matching below 70k weight any opponent that isn't heavily engineered should have no chance whatsoever. When a TH9 has to attack a base with level 9 teslas and level 14 ATs it's very ugly. And if they think your bases are rushed, they can't possibly be well-engineered, therefore their attacking skill is going to be largely irrelevant.

They still have spicier bases than you
May 3rd, 2017
ReplicantRachel

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vikingchief

on the last point, maybe, but you are connected to it.

you are clearly a very intelligent person, so I cannot believe you cannot see what I am saying. For the sake of clarity, let's ignore the complexity of the link between Martians and the website. Would you grant me, if I said.

If the website is your clans website (IF), this is a philosophical discussion now for simplicity, would you agree, that it could seam hypocritical of you to ask someone not to publish something you want kept private, yet publish the logs data of people who do not want it published, they want it private.

you argument that you publish your own logs to, is no more relevant than expertSAQ sayings he's also publishing a documentary on himself, so it's all fair. It has nothing to do with the fact you don't want a documentary as you want that information private, as people who want the war logs private, is not impacted in any way that you are happy to show your data.

thats like me posting naked pics of someone on line, and then posting naked pics of myself, and I'm saying but I published pictures of myself to so it must be fair.

come on RR, I know you understand and accept my point, assuming it was your website.

lets see if we can agree in principle before heading into the murky world of reality.

I understand what you are trying to say viking but you are oversimplifying it.

The release of war logs, with the exception of last two wars (with the purpose of protecting clans of any miss use of information), has its functionality that many have admitted already in the forums. Also let me mention that all this information comes from SC API which tells us it is all public data hence the site has permission to use even if some clans would not like it to be that way (SC has the final say in this).

Now as far as I know none of the information provided by the site shows any of the strategies used by each clan, and it shouldn't because that is private and NOT provided by SC.

What I meant by privacy is that if for some twist of fate OP manages to produce a video of any war (not just ours but any other than his) and publishes here on forums, not only would he be violating the privacy of that clan, since he didn't get explicit consent neither from SC or clan, but he would be actually be violating the rule of name and shame of forums, and not because it was a shameful war lol, just simply because he is sharing someone else's war.

And whatever video showing any attacking and defending strategies are very particular of every clan that not many like to share, especially if it gives positive results, just like secret recipes that don't get shared to anybody ;)

And just closing with the pic analogy: one thing is taking an aerial pic of people at a concert that would give you an idea of the population of the event (useful data) and another thing having one of the people in the concert shame videotaping the photographer full frontal and all (for some might be interesting but it's just not right) :)
May 4th, 2017
Vikingchief

Quote:

Originally Posted by ReplicantRachel

I understand what you are trying to say viking but you are oversimplifying it.

The release of war logs, with the exception of last two wars (with the purpose of protecting clans of any miss use of information), has its functionality that many have admitted already in the forums. Also let me mention that all this information comes from SC API which tells us it is all public data hence the site has permission to use even if some clans would not like it to be that way (SC has the final say in this).

Now as far as I know none of the information provided by the site shows any of the strategies used by each clan, and it shouldn't because that is private and NOT provided by SC.

What I meant by privacy is that if for some twist of fate OP manages to produce a video of any war (not just ours but any other than his) and publishes here on forums, not only would he be violating the privacy of that clan, since he didn't get explicit consent neither from SC or clan, but he would be actually be violating the rule of name and shame of forums, and not because it was a shameful war lol, just simply because he is sharing someone else's war.

And whatever video showing any attacking and defending strategies are very particular of every clan that not many like to share, especially if it gives positive results, just like secret recipes that don't get shared to anybody ;)

And just closing with the pic analogy: one thing is taking an aerial pic of people at a concert that would give you an idea of the population of the event (useful data) and another thing having one of the people in the concert shame videotaping the photographer full frontal and all (for some might be interesting but it's just not right) :)

RR, you weave a skillfull web, and while many of you points are true, they run at angles to my point regarding it being hypocritical of you to use the privacy card.

It really is this simple

"your" (still discussing with the assumption for now it's Martians site) website shows data that clans want to keep private by hiding there war logs, they shout invasion of privacy, "you" despite these requests to keep their data private, still show the data. This upsets people and makes them feel like their privacy has been invaded. You did nothing illegal to get this data, and while some may say it's not nice to display it, you not breaking the law and your entiteled to display it. I am very glad you display it, I really love your site.

Now, expert wants to do a documentary of your clan, and will not do anything illegal to film the documentary, you feel this information should be private, the documentary maker doesn't care, and wants to proced.

Yiu then try play the privacy card, when in principle he is doing, IN PRINCIPLE, the same thing you were. And that is then hypocrital on you part.

Yes there are technical differences, your info was more private (subjective), you released you own record, the side effects to you would be worse than to expertSAQ, but non of that chances the principle, which is you ignored pleases for privacy, and then demanded it.

it was slightly hypocritical, it happens to us all, CHRISS caught me being hypocritical and logically inconsistent on the sandbagging debate a few days ago. I recognized he was right, told him so, felt a little embarest, and went on with things.

If I can admit the extent and severity of potential repecusions to your data going into the public eye, were far higher than expertSAQs, can you admit you were just a little bit hypocritical in your behavior?
May 4th, 2017
ExpertSAQ

Quote:

Originally Posted by CheckMate99

How can the mirror be a mid th9 when you said the top bases we faced is only a max th8?

When I told up your first base is th8 max?
8-25 bases are th8, above than it is 9s
May 4th, 2017
Clashheadz

Quote:

Originally Posted by ExpertSAQ

When I told up your first base is th8 max?
8-25 bases are th8, above than it is 9s

Usually they only face max th8 on top I believe that war they just got a few more th9s than usual it seems
May 4th, 2017
ChiefTuk

Quote:

Originally Posted by ReplicantRachel

I understand what you are trying to say viking but you are oversimplifying it.

The release of war logs, with the exception of last two wars (with the purpose of protecting clans of any miss use of information), has its functionality that many have admitted already in the forums. Also let me mention that all this information comes from SC API which tells us it is all public data hence the site has permission to use even if some clans would not like it to be that way (SC has the final say in this).

Now as far as I know none of the information provided by the site shows any of the strategies used by each clan, and it shouldn't because that is private and NOT provided by SC.

What I meant by privacy is that if for some twist of fate OP manages to produce a video of any war (not just ours but any other than his) and publishes here on forums, not only would he be violating the privacy of that clan, since he didn't get explicit consent neither from SC or clan, but he would be actually be violating the rule of name and shame of forums, and not because it was a shameful war lol, just simply because he is sharing someone else's war.

And whatever video showing any attacking and defending strategies are very particular of every clan that not many like to share, especially if it gives positive results, just like secret recipes that don't get shared to anybody ;)

And just closing with the pic analogy: one thing is taking an aerial pic of people at a concert that would give you an idea of the population of the event (useful data) and another thing having one of the people in the concert shame videotaping the photographer full frontal and all (for some might be interesting but it's just not right) :)

While it's true SC provides the APIs that allow Cocp.it to show war logs for clans that have closed logs, I'm not aware of any other sites that publish logs for clans that have their logs marked private. Viking's photo analogy was pointing out that publishing your own logs isn't a justification for publishing other clans with private logs without their consent.

Note that the forum policy is against naming & shaming. Content creators & others routinely post links to videos showing war summaries & attacks on enemy bases without falling afoul of the policy because it only applies when there is a toxic intent to disparage other players. There's no policy preventing anyone from documenting a war that #6ayMartians participated in, as long as the video sticks to simply documenting the attacks. Cocp.it doesn't fall afoul of the naming & shaming policy because it makes no subjective comments about any particular clan's war record, it simply documents them.

tl:dr- You're being inconsistent in your stance on who deserves privacy.
May 4th, 2017
ReplicantRachel

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vikingchief

RR, you weave a skillfull web, and while many of you points are true, they run at angles to my point regarding it being hypocritical of you to use the privacy card.

It really is this simple

"your" (still discussing with the assumption for now it's Martians site) website shows data that clans want to keep private by hiding there war logs, they shout invasion of privacy, "you" despite these requests to keep their data private, still show the data. This upsets people and makes them feel like their privacy has been invaded. You did nothing illegal to get this data, and while some may say it's not nice to display it, you not breaking the law and your entiteled to display it. I am very glad you display it, I really love your site.

Now, expert wants to do a documentary of your clan, and will not do anything illegal to film the documentary, you feel this information should be private, the documentary maker doesn't care, and wants to proced.

Yiu then try play the privacy card, when in principle he is doing, IN PRINCIPLE, the same thing you were. And that is then hypocrital on you part.

Yes there are technical differences, your info was more private (subjective), you released you own record, the side effects to you would be worse than to expertSAQ, but non of that chances the principle, which is you ignored pleases for privacy, and then demanded it.

it was slightly hypocritical, it happens to us all, CHRISS caught me being hypocritical and logically inconsistent on the sandbagging debate a few days ago. I recognized he was right, told him so, felt a little embarest, and went on with things.

If I can admit the extent and severity of potential repecusions to your data going into the public eye, were far higher than expertSAQs, can you admit you were just a little bit hypocritical in your behavior?

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefTuk

While it's true SC provides the APIs that allow Cocp.it to show war logs for clans that have closed logs, I'm not aware of any other sites that publish logs for clans that have their logs marked private. Viking's photo analogy was pointing out that publishing your own logs isn't a justification for publishing other clans with private logs without their consent.

Note that the forum policy is against naming & shaming. Content creators & others routinely post links to videos showing war summaries & attacks on enemy bases without falling afoul of the policy because it only applies when there is a toxic intent to disparage other players. There's no policy preventing anyone from documenting a war that #6ayMartians participated in, as long as the video sticks to simply documenting the attacks. Cocp.it doesn't fall afoul of the naming & shaming policy because it makes no subjective comments about any particular clan's war record, it simply documents them.

tl:dr- You're being inconsistent in your stance on who deserves privacy.

Lol I thought my pic analogy would work for sure XD
Can I use another one? It's not the same publishing home addresses for the neighborhood than sharing someone's Social Security Number. Would that work for you?

Seriously guys you can't compare one thing to the other, that's all I have to say even if I sound inconsistent.

But if it makes you feel better I won't use the word privacy in this topic again, and I'll refrase to: I don't think it's very nice from OP to record video from my clan without permission.
May 4th, 2017
Vikingchief

Quote:

Originally Posted by ReplicantRachel

Lol I thought my pic analogy would work for sure XD
Can I use another one? It's not the same publishing home addresses for the neighborhood than sharing someone's Social Security Number. Would that work for you?

Seriously guys you can't compare one thing to the other, that's all I have to say even if I sound inconsistent.

But if it makes you feel better I won't use the word privacy in this topic again, and I'll refrase to: I don't think it's very nice from OP to record video from my clan without permission.

Hmmmm, so you can't compare :

A making available to the public data the one party wishes to remain private, and then getting upset that his/her privacy is not being respected .--

to

B making available to the public data the one party wishes to remain private, and then getting upset that his/her privacy is not being respected.

hmm how to compare? I agree at face value that don't seam similar.

come on RR, I'm outta energy, just say 'I can see maybe how you guys could maybe think perhaps I was slightly inconsistent', and I can go to bed.
May 4th, 2017
TankSinatra

I do think publishing what's in the API is a little different from putting bases online. SC put the API out there, but publishing bases without consent has always been considered iffy. Correct me if I'm wrong, but Jake & PB used to make a point of saying they had the owner's OK before burning a layout. Because otherwise you're handing someone a couple days work of coming up with a new base.
May 4th, 2017
Vikingchief

Quote:

Originally Posted by TankSinatra

I do think publishing what's in the API is a little different from putting bases online. SC put the API out there, but publishing bases without consent has always been considered iffy. Correct me if I'm wrong, but Jake & PB used to make a point of saying they had the owner's OK before burning a layout. Because otherwise you're handing someone a couple days work of coming up with a new base.

For sure there is a different in degree, quite a large one, but the principle as identical.

kinda like a .5 moaning at a defenceless account for engineering. Same principle, difference in degree.
May 4th, 2017
Tomville

I'm no fan or defender of this clan, but I think they have the right of it in saying that there is something off in the intention to make a video specifically about them without their agreement or cooperation. If they wanted a video to spread their fame/notoriety then they'd no doubt make one themselves, or work with someone well known and practiced at making quality Clash videos to get it done.

I quite agree with some who note the odd combination of posts congratulating oneselves on the forum with appeals to privacy, but that's what it is. The whole idea of examining from the outside in the absence of much real information then making a (fan? attempt at serious analysis despite almost no data?) thread and thinking to turn that into a video is what I find odder.
May 4th, 2017
ExpertSAQ

Let me explain what do the #6M wants:

In a #6ayMartians youtube video, A person asked to make a recap or film on Martian war.
A person from #6ayMartians replied that "We will make a live stream if we get a difficult match"

As I said there was contest, Two #6ayMartians persons were talking to each other about their hard war. Conversation was like this :-
"This is a poem on that hard war we faced that day"
"Yes it was really hard war
"Our win streak will continue as long we're good"

So my question is why didn't the #6ayMartians uploaded that war?
Wasn't it so hard?

They want their log to be private, and they don't want anyone upload their wars. Cocp.it is giving your wars and I want to upload that to enrich others knowledge about you.

After all this, I won't make any documentary on your war as you don't want me to do that.
May 4th, 2017
ExpertSAQ

Quote:

Originally Posted by CheckMate99

You really want to compare us to Cheater War league, after what was reported by cnaf yesterday ...stuff we knew a long long time ago...and that is why we won't go there. CWL is so overrated.

Don't respect our way of playing? Fine. You do (try to do) the same engineering stuff, yet can't even achieve a 10 wins streak...

Are you guys too much proud of yourself?

I respect your way of playing and also respect your streak but I don't like this proud of yours. We have already achieved a winning streak more than 10 without engineers. So what about with engineers lol?

If we engineer just like you it sure nobody can defeat our clan.
May 4th, 2017
ROFKruze

Does anyone besides ExpertSAQ think this is news? It was posted a week ago like engineering was just discovered by scientists last week. People have been making engineered bases and clans for years. So long in fact, Supercell is actively working to counter those measures to once again level the playing field via the matchmaking algorithm. It's laughable to think 6Ms method was unique in any way. They simply committed to it to generate wins instead of committing to developing their own bases and winning in a traditional way. Its not cheating but it certainly is manipulating the system to their advantage. Like what people do in any system and application.

I've now wasted a lot of my own time on this thread out of frustration it existed. Ugh
May 4th, 2017
ExpertSAQ

UPH lost their war once again, #BadluckUPH.
May 4th, 2017
VeeBirds

Quote:

Originally Posted by ExpertSAQ

UPH lost their war once again, #BadluckUPH.

Or pefect tied (or did you see somewhere they indeed lost?)

Their #1 used to have no infernos at all so every evenly matched similar clan with enough skills could perfect them back. Most of their lineup is just defenseless junk.
May 4th, 2017
ExpertSAQ

I meant they lost their streak once again.
May 6th, 2017
2222

What do you think about the right of someone who gets totally blasted due to being out-engineered making a video of that war? Ok for them to put it on youtube without getting the permission of the engineered clan that created a match that the video producing clan had no chance to win due to being outmatched so severely?
May 6th, 2017
TankSinatra

This actually has happened many times, about other matches. Typically the complainer is advised very quickly to edit out the clan name - generic complaints are fine, naming and shaming not so much. It would be tough to put out a vid about such a prominent clan without it being obvious who you're talking about, even if you blurred the name.
I guess my specific issue is with burning bases. Metamucil isn't anywhere near prominent enough for this to happen to me, but I hate making a new base, I understand someone wanting privacy on that count.
If I said I suspect your intent is naming and shaming, and you're getting cute coming up with alternative motivations, would you say I'm wrong? I will pre-emptively + rep you now as consolation for asking such a loaded question.
May 6th, 2017
posthoc

Is the problem that ExpertSAQ wants to take video from a war he hasn't participated in? If not, I don't see an issue here, tbh.

This forum might have rules about naming and shaming.

YouTube has NO such rules.

If someone wants to make a video about a recent match--NOT blurring clan or player names (naming and shaming)--who's to stop them? I can't find anything in the TOS prohibiting this.

I suppose he would be prohibited from linking to the YouTube video in this forum. But making the video? SuperCell cannot govern that, and appears to have scant interest in doing so anyway.
May 6th, 2017
ExpertSAQ

Quote:

Originally Posted by posthoc

Is the problem that ExpertSAQ wants to take video from a war he hasn't participated in? If not, I don't see an issue here, tbh.

This forum might have rules about naming and shaming.

YouTube has NO such rules.

If someone wants to make a video about a recent match--NOT blurring clan or player names (naming and shaming)--who's to stop them? I can't find anything in the TOS prohibiting this.

I suppose he would be prohibited from linking to the YouTube video in this forum. But making the video? SuperCell cannot govern that, and appears to have scant interest in doing so anyway.

YouTube can't make a rule on name and shaming. Everyday lots of videos are uploaded and it's very hard to monitor each of them.

Even #6M have uploaded a war on UPH and Bangkok B @War,
May 6th, 2017
2222

Quote:

Originally Posted by ExpertSAQ

YouTube can't make a rule on name and shaming. Everyday lots of videos are uploaded and it's very hard to monitor each of them.

Even #6M have uploaded a war on UPH and Bangkok B @War,

Well they must have had permission from the leaders of both clans because if not they would be in no position to complain about someone posting a youtube video about the martian tactics and showing examples of one of their wars :)
May 6th, 2017
2222

Quote:

Originally Posted by ROFKruze

Does anyone besides ExpertSAQ think this is news? It was posted a week ago like engineering was just discovered by scientists last week. People have been making engineered bases and clans for years. So long in fact, Supercell is actively working to counter those measures to once again level the playing field via the matchmaking algorithm. It's laughable to think 6Ms method was unique in any way. They simply committed to it to generate wins instead of committing to developing their own bases and winning in a traditional way. Its not cheating but it certainly is manipulating the system to their advantage. Like what people do in any system and application.

I've now wasted a lot of my own time on this thread out of frustration it existed. Ugh

The martians are the best at it by far. Being the best is unique. So, yes, other people than just OP are interested in learning more about what makes them the best.
May 6th, 2017
CheckMate99

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vikingchief

surely you know they usually have very even wars from the matchmaker, why I'm willing to bet they will let a respected forumer like yourself in the clan to have a look at their last 2 war matchups to prove it.

or release the details of there current war some can go to check the enemy clan.

surely?

on a totally separate note, a wise old sage once told me, the truth has nothing to fear from the light.

tnis feels like winterfell gods 2, Mars attacks westeros.

Respected forumer to join us? Huh, we already got a couple of them in our clan. Actually most of our members were recruited from the forum. They just don't advertise it.

Another respected forumer? Humbob...he used to war with us...

Want more? A while ago, we did ask Onyxds, Veebird, among others to join us, but they declined, saying they had no time.

In addition, just last month, we organized a contest for one person to join us. Everybody had a chance to participate and lots of people did. Did you? You had your chance there...

As for your discussions with Rachel...if you can't distinguish the difference between A) disclosure of a war log (minus the last 2 wars) vs B) disclosure of our bases, roster, cc, attack strategy to all our war opponents aand hunters, then there is not much I can add. Please just look at any professional sport team, their record is fully disclosed. However, videotaping and public disclosure of a team's practice is strictly prohibited in every professional league.
May 6th, 2017
CheckMate99

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matteliszt

(Guy with sub 250 war stars at th11)

Yeah soon the Korean dish will have more posts ranting about GM than stars...
May 6th, 2017
Prutser

Quote:

Originally Posted by CheckMate99

However, videotaping and public disclosure of a team's practice is strictly prohibited in every professional league.

LOL, those matches on TV must come from illegal placed camera's then. Oh wait, they are not.

Edit: btw, I do not see why anyone would argue over this for so long. Obviously the OP has no actual vids of the matches of 6M, otherwise the OP would have posted them by now.
May 6th, 2017
CheckMate99

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefTuk

I'm running a clan of very mixed abilities & yeah, we do use .5s & a couple of lopsided TH9s. I can at least go to the CWL to see some new attacking styles that I can tell my clanmates to try them out.

You guys are extremely good at what you do, but don't contribute anything to the community except controversy. Maybe you can send some players to the upcoming Forum FC tournament, so we can see your attacking ability & brilliant defensive layouts.

Mix ability? Wow you are referring to skill? You are using the low skill excuse to explain your average record while labelling us as no skill even though we both use the same engineering strategy, but GM has a much better record...

Controversies are always created by people with GM envy..

As for our contribution, we had LeeGrahamNorth but he got banned...still trying to understand the reason though..well

Next time you use Cocp.it, please think about this post...and ban yourself from the site.
May 6th, 2017
CheckMate99

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prutser

LOL, those matches on TV must come from illegal placed camera's then. Oh wait, they are not.

Edit: btw, I do not see why anyone would argue over this for so long. Obviously the OP has no actual vids of the matches of 6M, otherwise the OP would have posted them by now.

Before you are able to edit...
May 6th, 2017
Matteliszt

Funny how most of the allegations that GM isn't skilled is from people who have never had a serious (I'll even say 10+) win streak
May 6th, 2017
dorsan

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matteliszt

Funny how most of the allegations that GM isn't skilled is from people who have never had a serious (I'll even say 10+) win streak

They might have some attacking skill but no one ever showed any proof of that. What we do know is that with the village weights and army strength they have, they don't need any skill whatsoever, so it is easy to assume that they have no attacking skill as such at all. Also, you can be certain they never face any maxed th10 and/or th11 bases, which means they didn't even have any opportunity to gain any real attacking skill.
May 6th, 2017
Ripple1972

Quote:

Originally Posted by dorsan

They might have some attacking skill but no one ever showed any proof of that. What we do know is that with the village weights and army strength they have, they don't need any skill whatsoever, so it is easy to assume that they have no attacking skill as such at all. Also, you can be certain they never face any maxed th10 and/or th11 bases, which means they didn't even have any opportunity to gain any real attacking skill.

Back to the often repeated, unable to be proven, non-engineer mantra. Engineers have no skill. Thanks, it has been a day since I read this.
May 6th, 2017
Vikingchief

Quote:

Originally Posted by CheckMate99

Respected forumer to join us? Huh, we already got a couple of them in our clan. Actually most of our members were recruited from the forum. They just don't advertise it.

Another respected forumer? Humbob...he used to war with us...

Want more? A while ago, we did ask Onyxds, Veebird, among others to join us, but they declined, saying they had no time.

In addition, just last month, we organized a contest for one person to join us. Everybody had a chance to participate and lots of people did. Did you? You had your chance there...

As for your discussions with Rachel...if you can't distinguish the difference between A) disclosure of a war log (minus the last 2 wars) vs B) disclosure of our bases, roster, cc, attack strategy to all our war opponents aand hunters, then there is not much I can add. Please just look at any professional sport team, their record is fully disclosed. However, videotaping and public disclosure of a team's practice is strictly prohibited in every professional league.

So your happy to have onyx come have a look at your wars, and report back, that's great news! When can he visit?

if you can't understand why not bothering with people's complaints to privacy invasion due to something they would like to be secret on the one hand, and turning around and using moral outrage over data you would prefer to be secret, is hypocritical, so much so that its self evident, then there is not much I can add.

Wether or not it's a good thing for people to show videos of other clans on YouTube is another question, something I would not enjoy happening to me, but that doesn't mean the argument of privacy is not hypocritical.
May 6th, 2017
dorsan

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ripple1972

Back to the often repeated, unable to be proven, non-engineer mantra. Engineers have no skill. Thanks, it has been a day since I read this.

First of all, I am not a non-engineer, my clan is engineered, thank you.

Second of all I didn't generalize, I was talking about a specific clan.

Third of all, I even didn't claim they have no skill, I just pointed out why someone would think that.

Perhaps you should actually try to understand the posts you're replying to before you type it out next time and avoid answering things that weren't stated in the first place.
May 6th, 2017
ReplicantRachel

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vikingchief

So your happy to have onyx come have a look at your wars, and report back, that's great news! When can he visit?

if you can't understand why not bothering with people's complaints to privacy invasion due to something they would like to be secret on the one hand, and turning around and using moral outrage over data you would prefer to be secret, is hypocritical, so much so that its self evident, then there is not much I can add.

Wether or not it's a good thing for people to show videos of other clans on YouTube is another question, something I would not enjoy happening to me, but that doesn't mean the argument of privacy is not hypocritical.

We are not accepting anybody in the clan for now. If you missed the contest too bad.

You can keep saying about me being hypocritical all you want, it doesn't make it true no matter how many times you repeat.
I already said if it's in SC API is public, just the same as you being able to see my clan's war streak, farm bases and clanmates in it.

It is like me saying nobody look at my farm base I wish for it to be private. But you can still see it, can't you? It's my base! Stop looking at it!
May 6th, 2017
Vikingchief

Quote:

Originally Posted by ReplicantRachel

We are not accepting anybody in the clan for now. If you missed the contest too bad.

You can keep saying about me being hypocritical all you want, it doesn't make it true no matter how many times you repeat.
I already said if it's in SC API is public, just the same as you being able to see my clan's war streak, farm bases and clanmates in it.

It is like me saying nobody look at my farm base I wish for it to be private. But you can still see it, can't you? It's my base! Stop looking at it!

the only reason I have had to repeat it is that you guys keep posting about it, you can do all the mental gymnastics you want, not caring about others concerns that people can view their private war logs, while expecting others to care about your privacy concerns is hypocritical, there no way around that, the rest is petty fogging. I agree there is nothing new for iether of us to say so I'll let you have the last word if you wish but I'll leave it alone, my lack of response won't be because you convince me, it's that I don't have any new arguments on the matter, and the universe will have to decide the truth.

YOU chose who to let into the clan, if you not wiling to let someone look as a general rule it will look like your hiding something, but it's your choice so there's not much more to say about that iether.
May 6th, 2017
ReplicantRachel

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vikingchief

the only reason I have had to repeat it is that you guys keep posting about it, you can do all the mental gymnastics you want, not caring about others concerns that people can view their private war logs, while expecting others to care about your privacy concerns is hypocritical, there no way around that, the rest is petty fogging. I agree there is nothing new for iether of us to say so I'll let you have the last word if you wish but I'll leave it alone, my lack of response won't be because you convince me, it's that I don't have any new arguments on the matter, and the universe will have to decide the truth.

I only reply to accusations, you are the one bringing it up.
May 7th, 2017
kimchilove

Quote:

Originally Posted by CheckMate99

Yeah soon the Korean dish will have more posts ranting about GM than stars...

Lol u wont hear me rant if u guys dont post ridiculous stuff agreed?
May 7th, 2017
Rambletamble

Serious question Ms Rachel from a semi-casual player with no hidden agenda for you or your clan but a curiousity factor as you debate semantics with other forumers. First, your clans win streak is pretty impressive in length, doesnt matter whether its because of superior skill in attacking,basebuilding or knowledge of the matchmaker and as a clasher i acknowledge your clans consistent and solid effort in maintaining this streak no matter probably mine and others forumers concerns about engineering accounts and clans for war. The question i would like asked is your honest opinion is this 6months or a year from now what you see clanwars to be with an increase in clanwide engineering and thus wars as the dominant feature of clash as it has been since wars started, thank you in advance?
May 7th, 2017
ChiefTuk

Quote:

Originally Posted by CheckMate99

Mix ability? Wow you are referring to skill? You are using the low skill excuse to explain your average record while labelling us as no skill even though we both use the same engineering strategy, but GM has a much better record...

Controversies are always created by people with GM envy..

As for our contribution, we had LeeGrahamNorth but he got banned...still trying to understand the reason though..well

Next time you use Cocp.it, please think about this post...and ban yourself from the site.

Please find my post saying you had no skill. I think you have me confused with someone else. I've already amended my remarks about making no contributions to point out that Cocp.it has utility. Is it better than other sites that don't post private logs? Seems like a subjective opinion.

It's obvious you enjoy the attention & controversy you generate on the forums. It's also clear you're very afraid of people using your techniques against you...
May 7th, 2017
xXXCHRISXXx

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefTuk

It's obvious you enjoy the attention & controversy you generate on the forums. It's also clear you're very afraid of people using your techniques against you...

I agree, they seem to be sweating bullets. Idk if they realize it or not, but being the top dog means you have the target on your backs. It's only natural for people to be interested in them.
May 7th, 2017
ReplicantRachel

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rambletamble

Serious question Ms Rachel from a semi-casual player with no hidden agenda for you or your clan but a curiousity factor as you debate semantics with other forumers. First, your clans win streak is pretty impressive in length, doesnt matter whether its because of superior skill in attacking,basebuilding or knowledge of the matchmaker and as a clasher i acknowledge your clans consistent and solid effort in maintaining this streak no matter probably mine and others forumers concerns about engineering accounts and clans for war. The question i would like asked is your honest opinion is this 6months or a year from now what you see clanwars to be with an increase in clanwide engineering and thus wars as the dominant feature of clash as it has been since wars started, thank you in advance?

I honestly don't know Ramble, there's an upcoming "massive" update so it is hard to predict.
I wish people would stop their fixation with the engineering subject.
May 7th, 2017
kimchilove

Quote:

Originally Posted by ReplicantRachel

I honestly don't know Ramble, there's an upcoming "massive" update so it is hard to predict.
I wish people would stop their fixation with the engineering subject.

Lol I know u dont like me but plz understand im just trying to b a realist. I understand ur frustration with peoples fixation of engineering but instead of complaining about it, understand y it comes about. If u choose a certain action b prepared to accept its consequences. Theres a reason y engineering is such a hot button topic. U can choose to engineer but dont b a baby (not u. Just speaking generally) accept the negatives along with the positives of such choices. Not saying engineering is modding but both provide unfair advantages no? Thats like a modder crying "I just wish people wouldnt b so frustrated with modders. What's the big deal?" One of main problems with modders n engineers is having false ideas bout their place in community. They think one way n some make ridiculous claims to preserve their egos instead of being man enuff to know the realities of such choices. If u wanna do it, knock urself out but accept the negatives bc surely u r enjoying the positives no? Js shrug
May 7th, 2017
kimchilove

Lol one more thing. For ex: some people dont enjoy my style of writing but im just me whether u like it or not. I dont care how others perceive me bc I know myself. I accept my style isnt a fit for all n accept the fact some babies gonna troll me bc of it. Its koo to me tho. I dont take it personally. I understand it is jus a reaction to my actions. Shrug. Im man enuff to accept the consequences. Too many babies r here. More people need to grow up n have tougher skins n not b such babies. All this wah wah excuses people make to protect their egos is ridiculous to me. If u grown, u dont let silly stuff like game forums affect u. No one is going to die or anything. Lol
May 7th, 2017
Rambletamble

Quote:

Originally Posted by ReplicantRachel

I honestly don't know Ramble, there's an upcoming "massive" update so it is hard to predict.
I wish people would stop their fixation with the engineering subject.

Appreciate the response, understand the 'update' is a pretty significant wildcard to both sides of the debate as their will be tinkering of the matchmaker but unless they completely redo weights as we know and 'think' we understand them i am pretty sure you and your clan will continue your dominant win streak record but i do think that what we have considered as the dominant feature of clash clanwars will be replaced by tournaments,leaugues etc where the rules will limit engineerings ability to outwit the matchmaker, lol Good luck in your verbal sparring with my fellow forumers
May 7th, 2017
Vikingchief

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rambletamble

Appreciate the response, understand the 'update' is a pretty significant wildcard to both sides of the debate as their will be tinkering of the matchmaker but unless they completely redo weights as we know and 'think' we understand them i am pretty sure you and your clan will continue your dominant win streak record but i do think that what we have considered as the dominant feature of clash clanwars will be replaced by tournaments,leaugues etc where the rules will limit engineerings ability to outwit the matchmaker, lol Good luck in your verbal sparring with my fellow forumers

who needs luck when you have Martian mind power?
May 7th, 2017
Rambletamble

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vikingchief

who needs luck when you have Martian mind power?

Well viking the lady and her clan arent trying to outwit a computer matchmaker but a "boatload of forumers" who are wearing a lot of tinfoil hats and it seems blocks the effects of martian mindpower, clash on good sir ;)
May 7th, 2017
ReplicantRachel

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rambletamble

Well viking the lady and her clan arent trying to outwit a computer matchmaker but a "boatload of forumers" who are wearing a lot of tinfoil hats and it seems blocks the effects of martian mindpower, clash on good sir ;)

Lol it seems tinfoil inhibits common sense as well ;)
May 7th, 2017
Kenchafer

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rambletamble

Well viking the lady and her clan arent trying to outwit a computer matchmaker but a "boatload of forumers" who are wearing a lot of tinfoil hats and it seems blocks the effects of martian mindpower, clash on good sir ;)

I'd be trying to outwit the forumers too if I relied on martian mindpower to win my wars. Martian mind power sounds like a similar word. Fear. Fear of being hunted. Fear of losing. Fear of being shown that they rely on matchmaking manipulation more than attacking skills. Besides when they say stuff like this...

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Originally Posted by CheckMate99

In any case, that clan was a 'anybody can join' clan....no wonder they are very green...

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Originally Posted by CheckMate99

In fact we have seen a few cases where our enemies are calling us noobs and rushed and they are salivating the prospect of ending our streak before battle day.

It really paints a lovely picture of the caliber of opponents you draw. Of course, I'll be attacked for speculation so prove me wrong. No, you won't do that, just dance around it and bla bla about your win streak or call me a sub par attacker or some other smoke and mirror technique.

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