#6ayMartians warring strategy revealed!

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Originally Posted by Matteliszt

Right, so assume they had a max th11 offense (or multiple) with no defenses or few defenses. Their 1-2 slots aren't max defense so the big assumption here is that they never get an enemy capable of 3 staring 1, which people have repeatedly said isn't the case.

The enemy team therefore at least some of the time has the ability to perfect them. How is the fact that they don't get perfected not at least somewhat skill? They are at least capable of base building to the level that (as of now) 242 clans haven't been able to force a draw

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Sorry to intrude but perhaps I can answer ur question. Its bc of quality of opponents n or their troop lvs. Think im all talk? Give me any of their bases n watch me easily three it. Am I a clash god? Heck no. Im just a ok player. U truly believe many others out here cant do same? Fact is they intentionally avoid players like me n im not even elite. Just a reg clasher.

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Originally Posted by VeeBirds

Yup their heavy hitters were sitting lower, none of top3 had TH11 offense

And as concern the last sentence I think they more win in the middle-bottom because the opponents' TH8/7/6/5 have to attack wonky bases that however have 30+ space CC, most likely all hidden traps etc. They themselves said they had their top bases smoked some times.

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Originally Posted by kimchilove

Sorry to intrude but perhaps I can answer ur question. Its bc of quality of opponents n or their troop lvs. Think im all talk? Give me any of their bases n watch me easily three it. Am I a clash god? Heck no. Im just a ok player. U truly believe many others out here cant do same? Fact is they intentionally avoid players like me n im not even elite. Just a reg clasher.

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How could they intentionally avoid good players?


If your premise is that they somehow have rigged the system through basebuilding to only draw players with extremely low skill, I think you're wrong.

What seems more likely is that there are A LOT of people who play Clash Of Clans, and many aren't that good at it. Given there is such a large pool of players, they rarely run into good players. Given that they rarely run into good players, they build a large win streak. If this is all true they'd eventually run into other good players (rule of large numbers) so they must be good enough to beat those players and therefore the idea that they just cheat through engineering must be patently false.

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Originally Posted by Matteliszt

How could they intentionally avoid good players?


If your premise is that they somehow have rigged the system through basebuilding to only draw players with extremely low skill, I think you're wrong.

What seems more likely is that there are A LOT of people who play Clash Of Clans, and many aren't that good at it. Given there is such a large pool of players, they rarely run into good players. Given that they rarely run into good players, they build a large win streak. If this is all true they'd eventually run into other good players (rule of large numbers) so they must be good enough to beat those players and therefore the idea that they just cheat through engineering must be patently false.

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Lol if u dont know how they continually run into bad players I dont kno what to tell u. Know basis of mm n maybe u will start understanding. U think it was by accident they never ever ran into more well known clans? Give martians max accts n c how well they will do lol

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Originally Posted by Matteliszt

How could they intentionally avoid good players?


If your premise is that they somehow have rigged the system through basebuilding to only draw players with extremely low skill, I think you're wrong.

What seems more likely is that there are A LOT of people who play Clash Of Clans, and many aren't that good at it. Given there is such a large pool of players, they rarely run into good players. Given that they rarely run into good players, they build a large win streak. If this is all true they'd eventually run into other good players (rule of large numbers) so they must be good enough to beat those players and therefore the idea that they just cheat through engineering must be patently false.

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Your logic is pretty sound and I agree that a majority of clash players are average or below average.

But, you are assuming too much. Say enemy #1 is capable of 3 starring their #1 okay. That doesn't mean the enemy clan can perfect them. The enemy clan is full of other players that also have to be able to 3 star to some degree with low level troops vs high level defenses to achieve the perfect score. I bet at some point the mid to low bases with the maxed point defenses AD's, traps, teslas are too much to overcome. You don't have to be a genius to figure out when you have no shot at winning after a few key attack failures. So most clans probably quit when the outcome is extremely unlikely.

Where as on the other hand, even if their #6 hits #1 it's still a dip because it's a th11 offense hitting a th9.5 or th9 defense. I have heard on multiple occasions that their top guys are lacking in attack skills. Hence the call in the th11 hitter to get the job done. Even then they don't always get a perfect score.

Like Veebirds said, its possible that there is a shift somewhere down the roster where the enemy team is incapable of 3 starring a th10 with with maxed point defenses, teslas, Ad's, CC, and high heroes.

A few last notes, I don't think there are a lot of elite players at th8 level and below. If those are the majority of opposing bases they draw, it's most likely a bunch of kids. Also, I could be wrong, but they are not RHL qualified, which means they are dealing with a lot of sub th9 villages.

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Originally Posted by SuperStorm103

Your logic is pretty sound and I agree that a majority of clash players are average or below average.

But, you are assuming too much. Say enemy #1 is capable of 3 starring their #1 okay. That doesn't mean the enemy clan can perfect them. The enemy clan is full of other players that also have to be able to 3 star to some degree with low level troops vs high level defenses to achieve the perfect score. I bet at some point the mid to low bases with the maxed point defenses AD's, traps, teslas are too much to overcome. You don't have to be a genius to figure out when you have no shot at winning after a few key attack failures. So most clans probably quit when the outcome is extremely unlikely.

Where as on the other hand, even if their #6 hits #1 it's still a dip because it's a th11 offense hitting a th9.5 or th9 defense. I have heard on multiple occasions that their top guys are lacking in attack skills. Hence the call in the th11 hitter to get the job done. Even then they don't always get a perfect score.

Like Veebirds said, its possible that there is a shift somewhere down the roster where the enemy team is incapable of 3 starring a th10 with with maxed point defenses, teslas, Ad's, CC, and high heroes.

A few last notes, I don't think there are a lot of elite players at th8 level and below. If those are the majority of opposing bases they draw, it's most likely a bunch of kids. Also, I could be wrong, but they are not RHL qualified, which means they are dealing with a lot of sub th9 villages.

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Elite play at th8 and below doesn't exist because th8 is insanely easy. dragons rule any base th7 or lower, and th8 can easily be taken by a th9 regardless of development. Your premise boils down to somewhere down the line they have a base that's low enough weight that is sub th8 weight but not 3able by dragons, so it would require strong AD traps etc which may be achievable by that weight. I guess it ultimately boils down to have several bases that are difficult at that weight point, but this notion that they use this strategy and therefore are not skilled is just flawed.

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Originally Posted by kimchilove

Lol if u dont know how they continually run into bad players I dont kno what to tell u. Know basis of mm n maybe u will start understanding. U think it was by accident they never ever ran into more well known clans? Give martians max accts n c how well they will do lol

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Wrong again

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Originally Posted by Matteliszt

Elite play at th8 and below doesn't exist because th8 is insanely easy. dragons rule any base th7 or lower, and th8 can easily be taken by a th9 regardless of development. Your premise boils down to somewhere down the line they have a base that's low enough weight that is sub th8 weight but not 3able by dragons, so it would require strong AD traps etc which may be achievable by that weight. I guess it ultimately boils down to have several bases that are difficult at that weight point, but this notion that they use this strategy and therefore are not skilled is just flawed.

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I have nothing against the Martians. I'm neither impressed or unimpressed. I know very little about their clan and their attacks. I definitely won't say there is no potential skillful attackers there. What remains to be seen though is what % of their attacks are say th9 vs th9 3 stars? Then we might be able to conclude weather they have skill or not.

Until that evidence is presented, they will probably have to live with the fact that people will assume that their attacks are all dips and hence require little skill.

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And still, why are they not RHL qualified? Something to do with war difficulty right? I'm not 100% sure how that system works.

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Originally Posted by Matteliszt

Elite play at th8 and below doesn't exist because th8 is insanely easy. dragons rule any base th7 or lower, and th8 can easily be taken by a th9 regardless of development. Your premise boils down to somewhere down the line they have a base that's low enough weight that is sub th8 weight but not 3able by dragons, so it would require strong AD traps etc which may be achievable by that weight. I guess it ultimately boils down to have several bases that are difficult at that weight point, but this notion that they use this strategy and therefore are not skilled is just flawed.

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Dude pics dont lie. Look at their roster lineup n bases n tell us again how they r skilled. Only skills I c r understanding war mm n building of particular bases.

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Originally Posted by Matteliszt

Wrong again

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Plz tell me how im wrong. I welcome it. O btw, im willing to back up my words. I have fully max th9,10,11. I welcome any of them to hit it. Lets c shall we?

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Originally Posted by kimchilove

Plz tell me how im wrong. I welcome it.

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Have you been in their clan? Have you warred with them? Have you beaten them at war?

If the answer is no to these questions and your basis of knowledge is seeing a base you could 3 star you aren't in a position to say they aren't good attackers