#6ayMartians warring strategy revealed!

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Originally Posted by kimchilove

Lol wait a sec. So their claims of having superior attack/def skills, they can compete with cwl but choose not to (also discrediting their strategic minds), they have challenging wars, they dont bully opponents (ie have superior offensive advantage) r realistic in ur eyes? ♥♥♥♥ yea ok gotcha. Heres some smelling salt for u. Dw I ug it for u.

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Actually, most recently one of their members claimed it was Martian mind power, not skill :)

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Originally Posted by 2222

Actually, most recently one of their members claimed it was Martian mind power, not skill :)

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I flunked out of school so heck with mind power! Ill just overpower opponents n spam my fists

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Originally Posted by SinOfDusk

It doesn't matter, the better clan overall wins. "May the best man win", accounting for all factors, the best teams will win. Just like what I said previously, commentators like to say "clan A has more TH9 3 stars, but they lost". So what if they have better attackers if they lost? The outcome is more important than its component parts

They may be "skilled", but they do not necessarily win wars. If your clan can do 3 TH10 triples and my clan can only do 1, I can still win because my TH11 still have attacks. I can even win if your clan does 3 TH11 triples, but my clan can only do 2, if you fail to 2 star all my other bases.

There is only one win condition in war, that is to get more stars than your opponent. Everything else does not win you the war, but they can help. This is what separate good gamers from moderate players, knowing your win condition and not falling into the scrub trap.

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Ha I get infractions for these posts. Passive aggressively calling other posters scrubs ? Nicely done

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Originally Posted by 2222

Yes, generally, the clan who wins is better. However, better at what is often a question. It could be better at attacking, better at base designing, better at war strategy, etc. With a clan like the martians it is primarily being better at engineering. That is not to say they aren't skilled attackers, but that isn't the primary reason for their win streak.

As for 9, 10 and 11 hall 3 star attacks, the reason people say they are more skilled than lower hall attacks is because they are. There is no reason to make this complicated.

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It doesn't matter, the better clan overall wins. "May the best man win", accounting for all factors, the best teams will win. Just like what I said previously, commentators like to say "clan A has more TH9 3 stars, but they lost". So what if they have better attackers if they lost? The outcome is more important than its component parts

They may be "skilled", but they do not necessarily win wars. If your clan can do 3 TH10 triples and my clan can only do 1, I can still win because my TH11 still have attacks. I can even win if your clan does 3 TH11 triples, but my clan can only do 2, if you fail to 2 star all my other bases.

There is only one win condition in war, that is to get more stars than your opponent. Everything else does not win you the war, but they can help. This is what separate good gamers from moderate players, knowing your win condition and fully understanding this concept:

http://www.sirlin.net/articles/playing-to-win

After doing some reading, I found myself:
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.ph...pHavingFunGuys

And that's why I tend to get a lot of arguments from others, particularly the anti-engineering crowd

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Originally Posted by SinOfDusk

After doing some reading, I found myself:
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.ph...pHavingFunGuys

And that's why I tend to get a lot of arguments from others, particularly the anti-engineering crowd

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Lol indeed Sin, fair play for posting😁
I'd suggest that most of your arguments stem not from the anti engineering crowd, but from readers of the above.
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Originally Posted by Skrags

Lol indeed Sin, fair play for posting😁
I'd suggest that most of your arguments stem not from the anti engineering crowd, but from readers of the above.
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Lol funny article. Almost describes him except the part his way is the best way n he plays the game with more strategy than others. Although he has some good pts, other views r laughable. Even when I was willing to prove n show him he is wrong on his "most efficient way to farm"', he still refuses to believe he can possibly b wrong n runs from challenge instead. Shrug. Its good u acknowledge what that article says but all that is contained within that article does not describe u to a t. Sorry but facts r facts if that sounded harsh. U may think ur way is the best way n only way to play but I n many others disagree n some even willing u to show u in action not simply in words. But I will give u this, some pts u make r true tho just not all.

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Originally Posted by 2222

Actually, most recently one of their members claimed it was Martian mind power, not skill :)

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Originally Posted by ExpertSAQ

It's not so easy through, their site shows the clan in which they are matched are always of high level I go to that clan but they never accept me in. 3 times it happened, one time I got in but it was late, I could only read details about 5 mins.

When I was reading details it suddenly started saying "can't scout", when I try to see a replay, it says "the replay no longer exists. Lol that was irritating

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Originally Posted by ExpertSAQ

They have skilled attacker but only few. They know simple th8 strategies that mostly everyone knows. Their first base of #6M horribly when mismatched with a good th10 (Still Inferno-less). He wasn't able to kill the cc even and drag freely was killing troops around and thus 89 stars they scored in that war. Can't say that they don't know a bit but not also too much.

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Wow, 13 pages long and counting…based on some kind of revelations that are nothing really new. Quite a few on the forum are already aware of what we do. Beside, anybody can scout our bases and see how we upgrade.

OP: first of all, thank you for participating in our contest. I hope you had as much fun as we did. FYI, the winner did join our clan, maybe you were not paying attention enough to us (which I doubt ). As for the second winner, he will eventually join, but he is just too busy right now.

Now, going into your claim that you were able to join one of our previous enemies within the 4 days hidden period, I not doubting what you are saying since after all, you were able to provide a (somewhat underwhelming, according to Veebird) pic of that war. However, I am not able to replicate what you did. Maybe it was a temporary bug, because the war you are referring to, occurred about a month ago.


#24 Can you tell me, how many replays exactly you were able to see? It seems that you got in only one time, and stayed for 5 mins before being kicked out. I wonder how you could gain an adequate understanding of our wars and our skills within that 5 mins period. OK, you may have seen our N1 failing on one base, but can you really determine that it is really representative of our attacking skill of all our players? FYI, we rarely need attacks from our top 5 bases, since we generally achieved the perfect score without their help. Maybe our N1 was just practicing, or that his wife was getting on his case and he had to rush his attack  One thing I can tell you: while most of our members have just slightly above average skill, our N1 is definitely elite, and I would take his attacks over any CWL players out there. One day, maybe, we will showcase his attacks.

-you said we are matched to max TH8. You also said, our N1 failed on N3. Yet later #26, said that our N1 failed on a good inferno-less TH10, therefore enemy’s top 2 were quite heavy as well, certainly more that max TH8…

As for every posters in this thread: Thank you for spreading so much misinformation. We were a bit worried about copy cats, but considering all the contradictory information spread out in this thread, we can sleep a lot better at night now. It will make a lot harder to distinguish facts from fallacies about our clan and our match ups. Our win streak will not be threatened any time soon :)

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Originally Posted by VeeBirds

UPH opponents are possibly even worse than Martian's (considering like 80% of their roster has TH5- weight). In fact they only lost once and that's agreed it was an ambush.

The other top win streak clans are also slipping under the radar (Bangkok and Slamanation) just cause Martians got somewhat popular but it's always more of the same.


In the end the point of engineered clans is always to roflstomp the opponent, however what most of them lack (and what the top streak clans achieved) is the ability to avoid perfect draws. Remember Mr blombardo XD

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Actually, UPH opponents are more dangerous, even though they have lots of th5....no wonder they lost their streak, and nearly lost at few more times.

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Originally Posted by VeeBirds

It's easy with their calculator because you can do trial and error before even building the base
Say you want a base that will lure no more than a max TH8 (55k weight? I forget)
Just enter values in the calculator until you get a base that has <55k offense and defense weight that can't be 3*'d by a TH8 (so 4 air defenses, more point defense less splash etc) but that can mindlessly 3* any TH8
When you have a whole roster built like that you have already most of the work done

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Our calculator was completed about a year ago while our win streak started nearly two years ago. Beside, once the calculator is completed, we still need 6-9 months to upgrade our bases properly to have impact in wars...

You do the math and see whether it helps or not...

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Originally Posted by CheckMate99

Our calculator was completed about a year ago while our win streak started nearly two years ago. Beside, once the calculator is completed, we still need 6-9 months to upgrade our bases properly to have impact in wars...

You do the math and see whether it helps or not...

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UPH or Bangkok B get harder wars? Obviously the base levels are higher in bangkok B, but which are harder