Lets just give a little! - feedback please

Hi everyone,

For some time now I have been turning over an idea in my head. I've talked to Kendra about it just to make sure there wouldn't be any objections from the mods. She liked the idea, but like me, wasn't sure whether it would work (in which case it would be lovely) or not (as it might be disastrous)!

Knowing you lot you're bound to come up with all sorts of fors and againsts that I haven't thought of so all feedback would be appreciated. Particularly whether you feel you would like to join in or not.

Here goes: I would like to start a 'GIVEAWAY' thread. Based on all the information that comes into the forum from people who like to help other players, particularly new ones, and the generosity obviously shown by the fairy godmother's, coupled with the frustration felt by players who try to sell cheaply but just have their shops raided by the wrong people, there's a lot of you out there who like me have enjoyed this lovely game and now are in a position to give something back.

I'll give you an example: I have two dozen land deeds sitting in my barn at the moment that I don't need. If I put them in my shop at default they're almost bound to bought by someone who doesn't need them and will probably resell at full price or trade them. Now I would like to offer them in batches of 8 to 3 people for free (1coin). I would prefer that they went to one of my existing GC friends but most importantly, The only catch would be that they go to someone of level 35 or under.
No p.m's, it will just clog up everyone's inboxes. They go to the first three people to post on the thread and claim them.

The biggest drawback Kendra and I came up with was the probability that people would post up asking for stuff, which is a no no, it has to be a 'giving' thread not a 'taking' one. You can only respond, you can't ask.

I could just trade my deeds for bolts but what the heck, I'm so grateful for this amazing game I'd like to give something back.

Okay, Putting my crash helmet on now ..............

Just wanted to say that this giveaway is really generous, Woozie. Thanks for putting it together and I hope it turns out well!

I think this is a lovely idea Woozle. Do you have any thoughts about how best to prevent someone from coming in and sniping the goods? If there was a secure way to arrange the gift, I think that would be swell, but Idon't see a good way to do that without PM's?

Wow Woozle! What a great idea. I personally never ask anything in return for my items and always give everything away at 1 coin. (When giving to friends, not when selling in my shop). I hope this idea takes off and all of our generous forum members become involved. Let me know if i can help. :)

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Originally Posted by CheddarLimbo

I think this is a lovely idea Woozle. Do you have any thoughts about how best to prevent someone from coming in and sniping the goods? If there was a secure way to arrange the gift, I think that would be swell, but Idon't see a good way to do that without PM's?

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Well I think that the giver would have to respond to the receiver by PM. If you were just giving away the one item, for instance say 3 carrot cakes, that would'nt be too onerous to organise. I'm lucky in that I have a very safe shop, only having one follower (and I think that one's a glitch) but appreciate that other people do sometimes have problems with people stealing trades or giveaways. What I would want to avoid would be the situation that you get when trading when suddenly 20 people are trying to private message you all at once. People are going to hate that.

Great idea Woozle :).

First of all, how can we tell if that person is really in need and not taking to resell at max price ? We may check the farm to see if there is any unexpanded land but we cannot check for fishing spot. I'm afraid someone will take advantage of it.

The best way to have a safe giveaway is to use a secondary farm with limited number of friends to avoid intercepting. Everyone who wants to donate can sell to that farm which gather LEM (are we only talking LEM?) and distribute to new players. People eligible for those items will be temporary added as GC friend for the gift. Once completed they will be unfriend them. I know that does not sound nice at all but it works as if we follow a farm, sell something they need then unfollow.

But having a secondary farm just for giving is not something everyone can afford.

Hi Neighbor! I think that is a great idea. It's along the same principle as the donation box that many of us have been requesting, just to help out those in need and spread the hay day love around. I like helping those on my friends list by offering very low cost items, even jam and ice cream, plus I have lots of SEM to give away.
On a related note, I have been toying with the idea of starting a thread offering "my Tom for your deeds" in an effort to procure the last two deeds I need to open up my last fishing spot. I've played constantly every day for two months and only need two more. If you'd like to try out your experiment I would be grateful to be the recipient!

Rather than edit the above post I thought I would just follow up with a comment. I haven't done much trading, well, except one failed time I tried to give some cakes away and it was "stolen" before the proper recipient had a chance to get it. It always seemed like such a hassle! Using the forum PM system is time consuming so perhaps using a messenger system like kik would be more efficient for securing the gifts? It would be nice if the devs could allow us to dedicate one box in our store that was pass code protected or something like that. The giver could lock the box and the receiver would have to have a four digit code in order to get the goodies. That is way out of your ability, I know, and is only something that SC could do but it would be helpful to those of us who want to donate safely.

The missus had this in the ideas thread back in June... Extra food for thought...???

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This one could be a very, very lengthy description, so I'll try to give you the short version, and see how it goes...!!!

THE CHARITY BOX

Each farm is given a charity box for donations from other people, like friends, followers, or advertisers in the DD...

There is a lot of options and variations, both for and against, (we have been discussing it for days now) but the whole thing HAS to be voluntary, hence the idea. In a way, it's similar to filling other folks' boat crates, only with a choice, but no reward... People could only receive stuff in their charity box according to whatever level they are on, and is not diamond (sales) related. We are not talking everything here, but things like animal feeds, crops, fruits, vegetables, eggs, milk, jams, juices, and pretty basic stuff.. (Although ANYTHING in your barn or silo is bought and paid for by whatever means necessary - So it could be anything that is allowed...??? - This was our main arguing point... Lol.) If anyone donates something to someone that is not wanted or required, they sell it, and make a few extra coins, just to help them along.. That is what charity is about..

I realise some people will really begrudge giving anything away for free, but also know there are people who would gladly give away some less valuable goods to assist their struggling fellow farmers.

Could/would it be a good idea, or a big flop...??? (If it's a hit, then it was me that posted it, but if it flops, remember it was the wife's idea..!!! Hehe.)

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Originally Posted by meonhoc

Great idea Woozle :).

First of all, how can we tell if that person is really in need and not taking to resell at max price ? We may check the farm to see if there is any unexpanded land but we cannot check for fishing spot. I'm afraid someone will take advantage of it.

The best way to have a safe giveaway is to use a secondary farm with limited number of friends to avoid intercepting. Everyone who wants to donate can sell to that farm which gather LEM (are we only talking LEM?) and distribute to new players. People eligible for those items will be temporary added as GC friend for the gift. Once completed they will be unfriend them. I know that does not sound nice at all but it works as if we follow a farm, sell something they need then unfollow.

But having a secondary farm just for giving is not something everyone can afford.

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I don't think the scope of this proposal is limited to land expansion materials only. I would be prepared to offer anything.

The question of "need" is relative. I think the best you can hope for is to implement a level cap, and then just hope for the best. I don't think we can get into the business of deciding of a player is "worthy" of the donation or not. That's just way too subjective.

You could also maybe keep a list running in the first post of when something was donated, and to whom and use that to restrict someone from asking for things over and over? But I'm not sure who would manage that list...?

EDIT: Maybe a separate thread could be used for monetary donations? So, if it's really money you need, don't come to the Charity thread and ask for Jams someone else could really use on their boat. Just ask for the cash straight up and coordinate it in the cash donation thread? That would (hopefully) limit the number of people using the charity thread for cash purposes.

Wow, there's some interesting thoughts coming back thank you. And thanks for being so positive. I'm just going to add this quickly before I forget it. The money question. I had a lot of help with LEM'S from the original Fairy Godmother. She was incredibly generous and I was able to expand all my land by something like level 32. It's not that I'm ungrateful but unfortunately I missed out on any sense of achievement. What I'm trying to say is if people give away very large sums of money to new players so that they can buy machines etc., It might seem great at the time but could actually spoil the game for them. Let's face it, those early struggling levels are the fun ones!

Just wanna say what an extremely generous idea Woozle. :D:D

Hiya Woozle- so glad your going to go though with this, and you know I will help in anyway possible. ;)

And yes- we would all love some in game feature for this-gift/trade/bargin/barter it's been the most highly requested feature since the game came out. But this could become a great alternative at least for forum folks!

Thanks again sweets!

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I think it is a great idea if we can get it to work. I have never traded and finished expanding my fishing area this week. I am now helping a personal friend finish expanding their fam and fishing area. This person does not us the forum.
when that is done I am happy to help others.:)

I would love this, currently level 15 and wheating to get expansion items. I only have 100 slots in both barn and silo so everything is difficult but enjoy playing and earning my own achievements but a little help here and there would be very nice.

Wow I really like this idea as I give a lot of stuff away anyway. And yes the actual who needs it the most is really hard to determine. You mentioned the thread could not ask. Not a taking thread but a giving how would you know who needs it then. Nevermind I think I just realized what you were saying lol. Can only get what was offered not request something. I am still pretty low level my self but would love to be signed up to help give stuff away to the needy. Are you planning on doing it where I post what I have and someone replies or just let you come get the things I wanna donate and you handle the giving away either is fine with me just wondering your thoughts on that.

And too funny but I like yours and the misses' idea as well however it turns out :)

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Originally Posted by Woozle

Wow, there's some interesting thoughts coming back thank you. And thanks for being so positive. I'm just going to add this quickly before I forget it. The money question. I had a lot of help with LEM'S from the original Fairy Godmother. She was incredibly generous and I was able to expand all my land by something like level 32. It's not that I'm ungrateful but unfortunately I missed out on any sense of achievement. What I'm trying to say is if people give away very large sums of money to new players so that they can buy machines etc., It might seem great at the time but could actually spoil the game for them. Let's face it, those early struggling levels are the fun ones!

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I had half of one of my machines bought for me and yes I agree that if it happens a lot it will spoil not only the game but the person but man was I ever so grateful for the help that one time and it didn't spoil my game it is the niceness of everyone helping everyone that makes me enjoy the game even more and the wonderful people you meet along the way that wouldn't be there if not for people wanting to help each other it didn't last very long but I started a thread once about how wonderful the comunity of this game was and how grateful I am to be a part of it and that builds way more memories than struggling to buy a machine to me anyways

This sounds very interesting. I don't trade but I have helped out a few neighbors who have KIK'd me needing something they were short on. I finished expanding my land and fishing area quite some time back and I just finished helping a co-worker expand all of hers. I havent had any use for any lem now so I have just been putting all my lem in my store and 'first come first serve' so to speak. :p

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Originally Posted by Iam

Wow I really like this idea as I give a lot of stuff away anyway. And yes the actual who needs it the most is really hard to determine. You mentioned the thread could not ask. Not a taking thread but a giving how would you know who needs it then. Nevermind I think I just realized what you were saying lol. Can only get what was offered not request something. I am still pretty low level my self but would love to be signed up to help give stuff away to the needy. Are you planning on doing it where I post what I have and someone replies or just let you come get the things I wanna donate and you handle the giving away either is fine with me just wondering your thoughts on that.

And too funny but I like yours and the misses' idea as well however it turns out :)

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What I am trying to avoid by saying that you can't ask is that I don't want it to turn into a thread where people constantly post saying 'I need three carrot pies for my boat' etc., etc., because if it shows any sign of being a trading thread it will get closed. Ideas on how to allow requests would be great, but the moment someone offers to pay, it becomes a trade. I'm sure SuperCell will overlook the one coin payment because we can't do it any other way.

The post above yours is to me a pretty good example of the sort of person that the thread would be aimed at.

I think this is a great idea, although the mechanics of how it could work I'll leave to others.

I'm a level 55 player, I've expanded all land and fishing, and am not really driven to have loads of money, but I run every machine full just about 24 hours a day with all the slots acquired. I would love to be able to help others, and always put good stuff in my barn 1-2 times a day to help friends and followers, but it just doesn't seem like enough because as others already said I cannot control who follows me and many seem to do so just to walk off with my whole barn of jams and sugar and other goodies.. I don't bother with trading it seems like too much work to me, so please "powers that be" find a way to let us truly help each other without a lot of hassle, I really want to share the love....:):D

It would be nice if we could send a gift. Other games allow it. It would be great to see that someone needs a saw or three pies but all their help requests are gone or maybe all I have is two. Sure I can PM them but by time that happens the boat is gone or mine has come in or any number of things. I think it was Oregon trail that allowed you to give a gift. Would be nice and promote the social aspect.

I would like to start giving back. I have some good things to give away and I really enjoy helping others when possible. If someone needs something kik me: supanovaonfiya and I will try to help. Woozle, this is such a fantastic idea. With so much hatred going on in the world it's really nice to be able to promote kindness and generositytowards others, even if it is in a game.

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Originally Posted by FunkyFarm

I would love this, currently level 15 and wheating to get expansion items. I only have 100 slots in both barn and silo so everything is difficult but enjoy playing and earning my own achievements but a little help here and there would be very nice.

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Okay, so it's a quiet Monday and the Americans are just waking up so seems like a good idea to do a very small trial run and see what happens......

The conclusions I've drawn so far are that everyone seems very positive, Which is lovely.
No one seems to have come up with any huge drawbacks, which is not so lovely because I'm sure there are some.
I'm still looking for constructive criticism and all suggestions.
Whilst I'm really trying to avoid people posting and asking for things, I think that posts like the above would be a good thing on the thread. It's nicely worded and represents the sort of player that I would friend in order to give a hand to.
(Would appreciate your thoughts on this Kendra)
I have a feeling there's going to be an update this week and everyone will probably be very busy then.

Well let's see what happens, (This is a genuine give away but just a trial run)

I have two land deeds to give (for 1 coin) away. YOU MUST BE LEVEL 35 OR UNDER TO CLAIM THEM AND HAVE A GC AVATAR. Please post on the thread do not p.m. I WILL REPOST THE MOMENT THEY ARE CLAIMED.

I have seen something like this on crafting board I frequent.

1 person starts by listing what they have to give away.
The first person to respond receives it and they must then post what they will give away.
The first person to respond to that receives it and then post what they have.
and so on..

It works great. Once a "grab" post is made, everyone else knows its taken.

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Originally Posted by dls881

I have seen something like this on crafting board I frequent.

1 person starts by listing what they have to give away.
The first person to respond receives it and they must then post what they will give away.
The first person to respond to that receives it and then post what they have.
and so on..

It works great. Once a "grab" post is made, everyone else knows its taken.

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Now that sounds like a brilliant idea! It would involve higher level players as well. The only worry I would have is would it exclude the lower level players because the idea is to help them rather than get them to give things away?

I have also thought about doing something along these lines.

I am at level 52 right now. I have over 300,000 coins and have all my machines and pretty much have my farm decorated the way I want it. So coins are no longer an issue for me.

This was going to be my suggestion...

Start a Big Brother/Big Sister program...

One person who is at Level 51 and higher finds a person on the thread who is anywhere at level 1 through, what? 40? (I found things got easier for me once I got past level 40)

The Big Brother/Sister becomes friend with 1-3 people.

The little brother/sister will contact the big brother/sister by KIK (I truly believe for this to work they should use a messaging service. PM and email is too cumbersome and can be easily missed) when they are in need of an item.

It can be any item... a BEM, SEM, LEM, jam, popcorn.... anything.

The Big Brother/Sister will SELL it to them for 1 coin using the normal trading protocol of going to the RSS, putting a wheat up for sale then selling them the item.

NOTE: Just always make sure you UNCHECK the advertise button

I know there is a chance of someone snatching it away (it's happened to me) but it's a chance we have to take right now until SC comes up with a way to sell to a particular person without it getting snatched away.

Does this make sense?

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Originally Posted by Xandrasky

I have also thought about doing something along these lines.

I am at level 52 right now. I have over 300,000 coins and have all my machines and pretty much have my farm decorated the way I want it. So coins are no longer an issue for me.

This was going to be my suggestion...

Start a Big Brother/Big Sister program...

One person who is at Level 51 and higher finds a person on the thread who is anywhere at level 1 through, what? 40? (I found things got easier for me once I got past level 40)

The Big Brother/Sister becomes friend with 1-3 people.

The little brother/sister will contact the big brother/sister by KIK (I truly believe for this to work they should use a messaging service. PM and email is too cumbersome and can be easily missed) when they are in need of an item.

It can be any item... a BEM, SEM, LEM, jam, popcorn.... anything.

The Big Brother/Sister will SELL it to them for 1 coin using the normal trading protocol of going to the RSS, putting a wheat up for sale then selling them the item.

NOTE: Just always make sure you UNCHECK the advertise button

I know there is a chance of someone snatching it away (it's happened to me) but it's a chance we have to take right now until SC comes up with a way to sell to a particular person without it getting snatched away.

Does this make sense?

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Yes very much so, this is why I made the suggestion that posts like the one I used as an example could be included on the thread. It would be easy to select somebody to 'adopt' From this sort of short but sweet post. It should work in very much the same way as fairy godmothers and maybe S C will think fairy godmothers is enough though, we'll wait-and-see what Kendra thinks.

To expand on my idea....

In the thread we could do this...

I'm XandraSky... I would like to be a Big Sister

I can help with selling items for TOs and BOs

I will sell items for 1 coin

(I will eventually sell BEMs, SEMs and LEMs once my mom and sister have what they need - downfall to getting family addicted too)

So, send me a message on KIK letting me know you want to be my Little Brother or Sister and what level of the game you are at.

Happy Farming!

it could be that simple

And once you accept their friend request on GC you will know that the level they say they are on is true or not. So people can't fib about needing help cuz they are only at level 12 then you accept their friend request and they are at level 47

One last thing.. We could keep a list of our little brothers and sisters so the big brothers and sisters would know they aren't going to everyone looking for help.

example: FarmerDell (made up name) contacts me and says they are at level 12 and wants me to be their big sister.

i accept.

then the next day they ask every other Big Brother/Sister for help too.

I am great at excel so I could start a spreadsheet.

now, I would make one exception. Since I am helping my mom and sister with SEM, BEM and LEM, I wouldn't see the harm in having me as a Big Sister for food items and another for expansion items.

Can you tell I have given this some thought? LOL


i was very excited when I saw this thread started.

Xandrasky...isn't the idea you have suggested basically the same as being a fairy godmother?

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Originally Posted by Woozle

Now that sounds like a brilliant idea! It would involve higher level players as well. The only worry I would have is would it exclude the lower level players because the idea is to help them rather than get them to give things away?

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You would have to have some high level players involved that would be willing to take what the lower levels are giving away.

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Originally Posted by Cazzabee

Xandrasky...isn't the idea you have suggested basically the same as being a fairy godmother?

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I guess so. But I got the idea that FG were only for LEMs and not everything else.

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Originally Posted by Xandrasky

I guess so. But I got the idea that FG were only for LEMs and not everything else.

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I have an idea to add to the big brother thingy. There needs to be a way to identify the big brother or sister. I only shop my friends list and I know that the last stall is NOT always used for trading. One of my friends has placed something in her farm name to indicate that her last stall is for trading only so I make sure I don't go there. But you all know the adrenalin rush that hits when you see that bolt or deed when for weeks none were found. I don't look at the price, I just tap and sometimes I am afraid I may have tapped too soon. It's not intentional, just instinct. And if anyone notices that I have done that please kik me and I will give it back. Sometimes it is an accident while scrolling. I seem to have a lag in my game at times and have more than once bought wheat while scrolling.

anyway confession over, but if the big sister or brother could be identified in some way, it would be easier for me at least to stay away from the end. For instance, I know MarySC is a boat helper but she also rarely sells things so I know for certain to stay away from her shop unless it is full of stuff. Even then I'd probably ask first.

i also thought this was like the fairy godmother idea but also thought those were for land expansion. That's why I never asked for one, because I hate clutter so I made expanding my first priority. So of course I have loads of deeds. And since I am still in the low 40s level wise wouldn't be a good godmother or big sis, if I knew who was a big sis, I could kik them and give them my deeds to pass on.

i know this is long and I hope it made sense. But I think this is the best way. It has worked before with the godmothers and until SC gives us a gifting option formalizing this method, what ever we call it is best.

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Originally Posted by Woozle

Now that sounds like a brilliant idea! It would involve higher level players as well. The only worry I would have is would it exclude the lower level players because the idea is to help them rather than get them to give things away?

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Oh and if we go with this idea, the higher level players who wants to help can buy what the lower level folks have with max coins, thereby gifting coins. Level 56 players gifts a deed, level 30 grabs it and gifts a carrot, level 62 player buys it at max. This method though would be kinda like the DD to me, you'd have to be very fast and it would help if you had two devices. I can do that but I hate to play that way since I play in bed a lot. Plus if there are no takers willing to gift coins, or in need of a cup of coffee, the whole process comes to a halt. So I still like the mentor method (big brother/godmother).

The boat helpers have a banner in their signature. Have someone make a banner for the big brothers and sisters.

Dear woozle this is a great idea! I have unofficially (sans big sister title) helped out a few people but would gladly sign up to help out lower level players.

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Originally Posted by Woozle

Okay, so it's a quiet Monday and the Americans are just waking up so seems like a good idea to do a very small trial run and see what happens......

The conclusions I've drawn so far are that everyone seems very positive, Which is lovely.
No one seems to have come up with any huge drawbacks, which is not so lovely because I'm sure there are some.
I'm still looking for constructive criticism and all suggestions.
Whilst I'm really trying to avoid people posting and asking for things, I think that posts like the above would be a good thing on the thread. It's nicely worded and represents the sort of player that I would friend in order to give a hand to.
(Would appreciate your thoughts on this Kendra)
I have a feeling there's going to be an update this week and everyone will probably be very busy then.

Well let's see what happens, (This is a genuine give away but just a trial run)

I have two land deeds to give (for 1 coin) away. YOU MUST BE LEVEL 35 OR UNDER TO CLAIM THEM AND HAVE A GC AVATAR. Please post on the thread do not p.m. I WILL REPOST THE MOMENT THEY ARE CLAIMED.

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Hey- sorry - I'm trying to pretend to work (ya right)

This is awesome what you are all trying to do. Here are my mod thoughts- let me know if I didn't answer everything you wanted me to-

Another group such as the Fairy Godmothers is fine- in the past we have had 2 groups working at once. It just ends up being about how much time the "coordinators" (or Big Brothers/Big Sisters if thats what your going with) want to put into it.

However- as Woozle has said- it would have to run basically the same as that group- people giving - not advertising to sell - not advertising to trade - not asking for items they need. Because as most of us know there are already threads for that.

Of course you will have the odd post here and there of someone who really isn't aware doing such- it can be dealt with and of course wouldn't make the whole thing get shut down/locked.

Holidae's suggestion of banners in signatures is a great one also.

I suggest Woozle that when you work out the kinks and decide how you want to go forth, that you actually create a new thread- with your first post explaining this awesome thing your attempting. This thread could then be locked if you wish.

Sorry if I haven't answered everything- just let me know.

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I like the idea of "giving back" and plan to do this myself once I fully expand my land and fishing areas. I continually get mallets and marker stakes while working my farm, but very rarely get any deeds. I try scrounging for them via my friends' RSSs the DD and on occasion, I find and get some. Thus, expanding my land is quite a slow process and I have yet to do any fishing expansions.

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Originally Posted by BOROYOB

The missus had this in the ideas thread back in June... Extra food for thought...???

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This one could be a very, very lengthy description, so I'll try to give you the short version, and see how it goes...!!!

THE CHARITY BOX

Each farm is given a charity box for donations from other people, like friends, followers, or advertisers in the DD...

There is a lot of options and variations, both for and against, (we have been discussing it for days now) but the whole thing HAS to be voluntary, hence the idea. In a way, it's similar to filling other folks' boat crates, only with a choice, but no reward... People could only receive stuff in their charity box according to whatever level they are on, and is not diamond (sales) related. We are not talking everything here, but things like animal feeds, crops, fruits, vegetables, eggs, milk, jams, juices, and pretty basic stuff.. (Although ANYTHING in your barn or silo is bought and paid for by whatever means necessary - So it could be anything that is allowed...??? - This was our main arguing point... Lol.) If anyone donates something to someone that is not wanted or required, they sell it, and make a few extra coins, just to help them along.. That is what charity is about..

I realise some people will really begrudge giving anything away for free, but also know there are people who would gladly give away some less valuable goods to assist their struggling fellow farmers.

Could/would it be a good idea, or a big flop...??? (If it's a hit, then it was me that posted it, but if it flops, remember it was the wife's idea..!!! Hehe.)

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Throughout all this discussion, I noticed that no one commented on the above post. I actually love this idea! Here's a bit of expansion on that...

Each farm's Charity Box would have a list inside of it where the farmer would indicate the items they would appreciate being donated...maybe the list would have a cap of 3 or maybe 5 items. When a neighbor opens the Charity Box, they will see what the farmer is hoping for and, if they can, leave one of those items. If they aren't able to leave one of those items, then they have the choice of leaving something else or closing the box and checking back later.

Something similar to this is done on another game I play and it's nice to see what my friends need by checking their wish lists. :)

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Originally Posted by knitgal2

I like the idea of "giving back" and plan to do this myself once I fully expand my land and fishing areas. I continually get mallets and marker stakes while working my farm, but very rarely get any deeds. I try scrounging for them via my friends' RSSs the DD and on occasion, I find and get some. Thus, expanding my land is quite a slow process and I have yet to do any fishing expansions.




Throughout all this discussion, I noticed that no one commented on the above post. I actually love this idea! Here's a bit of expansion on that...

Each farm's Charity Box would have a list inside of it where the farmer would indicate the items they would appreciate being donated...maybe the list would have a cap of 3 or maybe 5 items. When a neighbor opens the Charity Box, they will see what the farmer is hoping for and, if they can, leave one of those items. If they aren't able to leave one of those items, then they have the choice of leaving something else or closing the box and checking back later.

Something similar to this is done on another game I play and it's nice to see what my friends need by checking their wish lists. :)

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This seems to be something we would have to get SC to program into the game if I'm understanding it right. Since we haven't been that successful getting some changes through them (like a confirmation button on the diamonds), I think people were looking for something unofficial we could do on our own.

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Originally Posted by knitgal2

I like the idea of "giving back" and plan to do this myself once I fully expand my land and fishing areas. I continually get mallets and marker stakes while working my farm, but very rarely get any deeds. I try scrounging for them via my friends' RSSs the DD and on occasion, I find and get some. Thus, expanding my land is quite a slow process and I have yet to do any fishing expansions.




Throughout all this discussion, I noticed that no one commented on the above post. I actually love this idea! Here's a bit of expansion on that...

Each farm's Charity Box would have a list inside of it where the farmer would indicate the items they would appreciate being donated...maybe the list would have a cap of 3 or maybe 5 items. When a neighbor opens the Charity Box, they will see what the farmer is hoping for and, if they can, leave one of those items. If they aren't able to leave one of those items, then they have the choice of leaving something else or closing the box and checking back later.

Something similar to this is done on another game I play and it's nice to see what my friends need by checking their wish lists. :)

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Hi Knitgal, I wonder if the other game you are referring to features a haunted Manor house (Better not mention any names), If so I played it very badly before Hay Day and know that you can give gifts, but I couldn't work out then how to make friends so got nowhere! However there is no doubt it was a really nice idea and it did seem fairly simple.

I haven't commented on John's wife's idea not because I don't think it's a lovely one, but because I'm trying not to get too sidetracked, And also because it's something that we just can't do ourselves it would have to come from SC.

With regard to land deeds, I put two up for grabs on this thread six hours ago and I'm still waiting for someone to claim them. See post #23.

Edit: this offer is still current:

I have two land deeds to give (for 1 coin) away. YOU MUST BE LEVEL 35 OR UNDER TO CLAIM THEM AND HAVE A GC AVATAR. Please post on the thread do not p.m. I WILL REPOST THE MOMENT THEY ARE CLAIMED.

Woozie,
Thank you for your lovely thoughts and also thanks to all the people who like your ideas as I am of the same nature. I have a suggestion for you. I am a co-founder of the Fairy Godmother's group with Saba. I had to pull back because of time-constraints on my end and put my "giving" on hold for a bit until I was able to add a few fishing spots, which is now expanded "enough" that I'm able to fill my orders, if nothing else (the fishing is cute, but is not a huge focus for me in the game). Now I will be able to jump back into the giving, which I really enjoy and is so much fun to watch the farms grow that you are trying to help! In our Fairy Godmother's group, we focus on land expansion, silo, and barn expansion items and have helped many lower level farmers move past the "struggling" stage of the game so they can get into the more enjoyable levels, like it seems your aim is, as well. The difference between your ideas and our little group is that you'd like to include any and all items to be gifted, if I'm understanding you correctly, which is fantastic. I suggest you contact Saba and get her take on your ideas as she has been running our group pretty much on her own since I had to pull back. She might have some suggestions for you so you don't have to "reinvent the wheel", so to speak. I also had a thought as I know when I was stockpiling items to give away, it took up so much of my barn space that I didn't have room for my own farming needs (but then again I started being a godmother before level 30 so I could give back to others as soon as possible as Saba helped me expand the land piece so generously). What I'm saying is, you either have to have tons of space in your barn if the "charity box" thing doesn't work out and I wonder if it would be possible to have a separate "donation" farm running somehow, where people in need can go to acquire what they need, once vetted by the farm owner... I don't know if that made any sense, but there it is. I'd also tell you that if it ends up with you taking this on, be prepared for it to consume A LOT of time. This is why I had to pull back, I just didn't have the time to respond to the pages and pages of PM's I received and to try to match Godparents and children etc. (working full-time, being a mother of two small children etc.), even if the mods go for a charity box-type idea, if they don't run it, be prepared to allot hours to it everyday. So, my main point is: get in touch with Saba (Mailke) as she is an absolute angel and started the whole giving concept at Hay day, she'll be an awesome resource for you.
I wish you luck and look forward to seeing what you're able to come up with. Like I said, I'm getting back into my own donation-mode again now and will gladly be a part of your project as well. It just feels so wonderful to help another gamer out and makes the game more rewarding!
jenwiththelegs
level 50
Fairy Godmother resurrected...

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Originally Posted by dls881

You would have to have some high level players involved that would be willing to take what the lower levels are giving away.

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If I'm reading this right, you mean the High Level Player will have to happy with what the Low Level Player has to TRADE WITH... am I reading this right?

If so, I think you are missing the whole point of this idea.

IT'S NOT TO TRADE...BUT TO GIVE AWAY

I'm at Level 52, I have all the machines and only have 3 products left on the Candy Machine to unlock.

So, basically, I'm now playing because, well, I'm addicted to making products and filling those darn Truck Orders and Boat Orders.

But... I could take a break from filling my orders and make some products from lower level people and help them fill TOs quicker to get more coins to help them get machines quicker.

Also, I could buy items from a Lower Level player for Max Price and then sell right back to them for 1 coin so they get the coins AND the product.

I would be willing to do this with a lower level player to get them going.

No trade necessary.

Just the joy I get from helping a fellow Hay Day addict out.

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Originally Posted by Xandrasky

One last thing.. We could keep a list of our little brothers and sisters so the big brothers and sisters would know they aren't going to everyone looking for help.

example: FarmerDell (made up name) contacts me and says they are at level 12 and wants me to be their big sister.

i accept.

then the next day they ask every other Big Brother/Sister for help too.

I am great at excel so I could start a spreadsheet.

now, I would make one exception. Since I am helping my mom and sister with SEM, BEM and LEM, I wouldn't see the harm in having me as a Big Sister for food items and another for expansion items.

Can you tell I have given this some thought? LOL


i was very excited when I saw this thread started.

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I have just re-read all this post and it sounds great. I would be love to be involved and like you I am helping someone expand at present by buying LEM for him but once that is finished......
happy to give away other goodies in that sort of programme.

I am in need of a little bro/sis. I have LOTS of items clogging up my barn and I would love to help someone at a lower level. What is the protocol here? Is it the same as for trading? You send me a friend request of GC. I verify your level and add you. Then let the giving begin!

Rule 1) you get what you get and you don't pitch a fit.
Rule 2) must be level 40 or below (?)
Rule 3) pay it forward later when you are at a higher level.

Oh Woozle, couldn't you just put those extra land deeds up in your shop at say 8:00pm Eastern Standard Time? I'll happily take em off your hands :p

I saw that supanova had been asking for two bolts for a couple of days and I did put up some bolts in my stall hoping she would pop by and get them but someone always comes along within minutes and takes them and rightfully so, since I have a first come first serve kind of shop. And so this is my challenge with this idea.

I hardly ever advertise except when I'm selling wheat and corn and most of my neighbours know that I don't trade. My worry is that I have no way of preventing any of my neighbours from taking anything from my stall. We all live in different time zones, some players are not on the forum, and some of us have followers and there is no way to have them unfollow us. I don't have KIK and don't play in the days when I am at work so this would be particularly challenging to me. I am not on this forum every day either and so would miss someone's pm here on the forum.

Because of this challenge, I love two of the ideas that were suggested:

1. To have something be programmed into the game that allows for a charity box of sorts
2. To have a "dummy" game set up where donors could give the dummy game the gift and then the recipient could go to that dummy game and take the gift from the stall. This one i like the most (but I understand how time consuming this could be for the person(s) who has to manage the dummy game!).

Hey all,

After reading Jen's (always awesome post) and Woozle's PM - I have to agree with something- since there is another "club" type thing going (Fairy God Mothers) the idea of making another club may not be needed- and just a "giving thread" may be much more easier to manage for all involved.

Of course if people in the thread want to pair up in PM's thats excellent also- but just a post of "I have 10 mallets to give away" and someone replying with a quote to that post - may be much easier.

Of course - the poster can limit their offer to their own GC friends, or low level players- whatever they wish.

Sorry if this is totally against what I said yesterday- I felt bad after my post then may have limited what Woozle is really trying to create.

LOL- hope I make any sense at all!

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Originally Posted by Xandrasky

If I'm reading this right, you mean the High Level Player will have to happy with what the Low Level Player has to TRADE WITH... am I reading this right?

If so, I think you are missing the whole point of this idea.

IT'S NOT TO TRADE...BUT TO GIVE AWAY

I'm at Level 52, I have all the machines and only have 3 products left on the Candy Machine to unlock.

So, basically, I'm now playing because, well, I'm addicted to making products and filling those darn Truck Orders and Boat Orders.

But... I could take a break from filling my orders and make some products from lower level people and help them fill TOs quicker to get more coins to help them get machines quicker.

Also, I could buy items from a Lower Level player for Max Price and then sell right back to them for 1 coin so they get the coins AND the product.

I would be willing to do this with a lower level player to get them going.

No trade necessary.

Just the joy I get from helping a fellow Hay Day addict out.

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No you've missed my point. My idea has nothing to do with trading. The person who gets the offer owes nothing to the player offering the product. The receivers only obligation is to make a post offering their product even if its only wheat. PMs can take care of whatever deal is made - 1 coin, max coins, selling back and forth. That's all handled between seller and giver

Right now the Fairy Godmothers only deal with LEMs, right?

So maybe what we need is a groups of FGs for the other stuff. Meaning there would be a group of FGs who gift SEMs, a group who gift BEMs and group who gift all the food products.

i would be in the food product group because I'm having a hard time getting BEMs for myself, especially since my Mom keeps guilting me into helping her. *sigh*

so, instead of the mentoring program, we just expand the FG group?

We could start a thread titled: Need Help? Below Level 35? Use the Fairy Godmother Service

If you need SEMs, contact: (there would be a list of people who volunteer to gift those items and how they prefer to be contacted)

If you need food products, contact: XandraSky at KIK

etc etc etc

That seems simple enough

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Originally Posted by dls881

No you've missed my point. My idea has nothing to do with trading. The person who gets the offer owes nothing to the player offering the product. The receivers only obligation is to make a post offering their product even if its only wheat. PMs can take care of whatever deal is made - 1 coin, max coins, selling back and forth. That's all handled between seller and giver

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I like this idea as well. Every receiver would be morally obligated to pay it forward.

Of course there would always be some who may take planks and only have wheat and eggs to pay forward...:rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by bobbyrae2

I like this idea as well. Every receiver would be morally obligated to pay it forward.

Of course there would always be some who may take planks and only have wheat and eggs to pay forward...:rolleyes:

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Yes, its the same way traders have to expect that some trades will be swiped by an outsider.

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Originally Posted by Woozle

Hi Knitgal, I wonder if the other game you are referring to features a haunted Manor house (Better not mention any names), If so I played it very badly before Hay Day and know that you can give gifts, but I couldn't work out then how to make friends so got nowhere! However there is no doubt it was a really nice idea and it did seem fairly simple.

I haven't commented on John's wife's idea not because I don't think it's a lovely one, but because I'm trying not to get too sidetracked, And also because it's something that we just can't do ourselves it would have to come from SC.

With regard to land deeds, I put two up for grabs on this thread six hours ago and I'm still waiting for someone to claim them. See post #23.

Edit: this offer is still current:

I have two land deeds to give (for 1 coin) away. YOU MUST BE LEVEL 35 OR UNDER TO CLAIM THEM AND HAVE A GC AVATAR. Please post on the thread do not p.m. I WILL REPOST THE MOMENT THEY ARE CLAIMED.

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Woozle, the other game doesn't exactly have a Haunted Manor, but may be something along those lines, if it's the game to which I think you are referring...LOL!

Also, since no one else seems to be taking you up on your offer of 2 Deeds, I certainly will! Even if you wanted to split them into two givings and would only provide me with 1 Deed, I'd be perfectly fine with that. :)

I do not have a Kik account at this time, but if you do and think this would work best via Kik messaging, let me know and I will get one set up. ;)

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Originally Posted by knitgal2

Woozle, the other game doesn't exactly have a Haunted Manor, but may be something along those lines, if it's the game to which I think you are referring...LOL!

Also, since no one else seems to be taking you up on your offer of 2 Deeds, I certainly will! Even if you wanted to split them into two givings and would only provide me with 1 Deed, I'd be perfectly fine with that. :)

I do not have a Kik account at this time, but if you do and think this would work best via Kik messaging, let me know and I will get one set up. ;)

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Whoopee success at last! 2 deeds to Knitgal. CLAIMED

I will send you a GC request now, come to my shop ASAP.

Bobbyrae: I'm sorry! I think your farm name read "Level 58 I have bolts". I had no idea if you were talking to me or not and even though I am level 58 I figured you might have more than one friend at that level. As for the problems you're having with communicating your gifts, this is where kik comes in handy. Given the character limitations on the roadside stand its difficult to advertise, even when your just trying to let someone on your friends list know. I'm having that issue now. Someone needs something for a boat order and while I don't have enough to help fill it (and my production queue is filled) I can contribute a few of the items. ONly problem is that I don't know how to contact that person.

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Originally Posted by bobbyrae2

Oh Woozle, couldn't you just put those extra land deeds up in your shop at say 8:00pm Eastern Standard Time? I'll happily take em off your hands :p

I saw that supanova had been asking for two bolts for a couple of days and I did put up some bolts in my stall hoping she would pop by and get them but someone always comes along within minutes and takes them and rightfully so, since I have a first come first serve kind of shop. And so this is my challenge with this idea.

I hardly ever advertise except when I'm selling wheat and corn and most of my neighbours know that I don't trade. My worry is that I have no way of preventing any of my neighbours from taking anything from my stall. We all live in different time zones, some players are not on the forum, and some of us have followers and there is no way to have them unfollow us. I don't have KIK and don't play in the days when I am at work so this would be particularly challenging to me. I am not on this forum every day either and so would miss someone's pm here on the forum.

Because of this challenge, I love two of the ideas that were suggested:

1. To have something be programmed into the game that allows for a charity box of sorts
2. To have a "dummy" game set up where donors could give the dummy game the gift and then the recipient could go to that dummy game and take the gift from the stall. This one i like the most (but I understand how time consuming this could be for the person(s) who has to manage the dummy game!).

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Originally Posted by Woozle

Whoopee success at last! 2 deeds to Knitgal. CLAIMED

I will send you a GC request now, come to my shop ASAP.

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I just picked up my Deeds...thank you!

Almost had a bit of problem...when I got your friend request, I wasn't playing, so I quickly opened my iPad, found you in my friends, and saw the wheat for a penny confirmation purchase. Grabbed it and when you put up the Deeds, I clicked on them only find out there was no room in my barn! 0.0

I quickly left your RSS, put something on sale in my RSS, and returned to get my Deeds...Phew! :D

I know it's late on your end of the pond, so go get some sleep...and thank you, again!

Okay so first giveaway accomplished. 2 land deeds claimed by Knitgal2

Contrary to my worries about being knocked down in the rush, it took well over 24 hours for someone to put in a claim.

Managed it without a p.m. And it took no time at all.

I now have a new GC friend at level 33 who I will be pleased to help in the future.

RESULT!


Thanks for all the contributions on this thread so far. It's given me a lot to think about and I will post tomorrow with my reorganised thoughts after having re-read all the suggestions.

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Have just seen your post Knitgal, really pleased it went so smoothly. I shall sleep well!

Woozle, this is a fab idea. I love it. And as you know, I have helped lots of people with things for just 1 coin, as I had already expanded my land, and fishing areas. I was happy with where i was at with my farm. So was just plodding along. It's great to be able to help someone else, and for free (or as next to free as it can be lol). I hope this takes off. I'll happily help someone if they need it.

nice idea :)

I'd say that I need Land Deeds but I don't meet the criteria of being level 35 and below :(
(blame my poor coin management skills on the fact that my land still isn't expanded and I still haven't gotten the jewelry kiosk or the last 2 Smelters....that and I use coins to buy stuff to go help my friends' farms- story of my life lol)

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nice idea :)

I'd say that I need Land Deeds but I don't meet the criteria of being level 35 and below :(
(blame my poor coin management skills on the fact that my land still isn't expanded and I still haven't gotten the jewelry kiosk or the last 2 Smelters....that and I use coins to buy stuff to go help my friends' farms- story of my life lol)

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Poor Ducky! You're a kind friend. I sent you a PM. I've only got one smelter by the way and only opened my mine last week. I keep it all well hidden....

Sent a PM back

(sorry... I suffer DDS...lol)

The kiosk is now probably the last thing I'm getting now that I see these new updates...

41K to open the nets?! 90K for the pots?!!!!

*thud* I am going to be perpetually poor.

Kind of like my real life- sad ain't it?

Firstly I want to thank everyone for all the input on the thread, for all the kind words and great suggestions. I have been waiting (and still am) for a response from SC about gift boxes and/or gift systems, but to be fair if they had this idea in mind for a future update they probably wouldn't spill the beans on it to us. I know there are other games that use such a system and I think it would be an excellent idea for Hay Day, so come on SuperCell designers, get your thinking caps on!

The game I am thinking of, (which I'm useless at and don't play any more) allows players to flag up about 4 or 5 items that they would like to receive as a gift. Their friends can check this 'Wish List' and send a certain number of gifts a day. I think this system would work well in Hay Day.

I have spoken to Jen about Fairy Godmothers. In essence, I wanted the giveaway thread to be quite different. Not a club or a group, just a fast-moving thread that keeps getting refreshed by peoples generosity. Obviously it's not going to be 'stickied' so will get buried quite quickly if people stop giving. The idea is, you can give anything away from a bag of sugar to a diamond ring (including all expansion materials) I would like to include lower-level players as much as possible, but being realistic there aren't going to be too many takers for one piece of wheat, but high-level players will be happy to take a bag of sugar from you, a bowl of cream, or a pat of butter.

It could be done almost as a sort of relay race where the last person to claim a gift has to put something up for grabs themselves but I don't know whether this would complicate things too much. I'd be grateful for any thoughts on this.

So, running alongside the 'Giving Bit' I would like to encourage new players who would like to be on the receiving end to post on the thread and introduce themselves. No begging letters please, just a hello, a line or two about yourself and tell us your level and maybe how long you've been playing. Established players who are looking for new people to help will then be able to contact you about adding you on GC. If you have your GC in your signature that's great but again, I don't want it to become an 'add me on GC thread' we already have one of those. Please bear in mind if you are a new player that most established players will require you to have a GC avatar before friending you.

I thought of 'THE GREAT HAY DAY GIVEAWAY' as a title to the thread, but maybe courting disaster there as it might turn out not to be great at all! Any other ideas are welcomed.

I await your comments.

i LOVE the ideia of 'THE GREAT HAY DAY GIVEAWAY' thread because it encourage new player to come to the forum but also to stay playing the game.

when i started it as a fairy godmother that helped me getting my Land Owner III & Fish Farmer III achievement, she was/is the best and everytime i can i help her i do it without a blink.

So to add some arguments to your post i would like to add that by helping some player we win respect, that sonner or later will return to us, can be in on the boat, sell LEM/SEM, can be in the form of allowing us to help then and on that process cleaning the barn/silo.

For me, and from my point of view this is a win-win situation where helpers gain trust/respect/space/time(on boat order) and the people that is helped feels part of a community that cares for then.

With that said, where is the thread :D

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With that said, where is the thread :D

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Just waiting for people to read my last post and add any comments, then I will open a new thread and ask Kendra to close this one.

I think this is a great idea, but if you are concerned about the title previously mentioned, what about calling it something like the PIF (or spelled out - Pay It Forward) Thread? Since the concept is for people to take one item they need and then replace it with an item, it may be considered paying it forward. This might also be better than naming it as a giveaway thread since that might cause people (especially those who didn't see this thread) to think that SC is having a giveaway. ;)

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I think this is a great idea, but if you are concerned about the title previously mentioned, what about calling it something like the PIF (or spelled out - Pay It Forward) Thread? Since the concept is for people to take one item they need and then replace it with an item, it may be considered paying it forward. This might also be better than naming it as a giveaway thread since that might cause people (especially those who didn't see this thread) to think that SC is having a giveaway. ;)

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Love the idea & the suggested title too - Pay It Forward. (One of the feel good movie ever). Count me in! :)