New DE Troops: Hive Mind and Weevil

Here's my two DE troop ideas-
Hive Mind:
Idea behind the Hive Mind is that some of the basic unit AI is extremely frustrating. Anyone get annoyed with the archers that just decide they want to shoot at one wall, and one wall only, for the rest of a raid? Or giants that decide to attack fifteen different walls instead of all focusing on one? Or units that dial in on Army Camps while they get shot up by anti-air? The Hive Mind is a solution to that!

Function:
The Hive Mind is a DE ground unit (not flying) that seeks out nearby troops, and basically improves the unit AI (while in range). So minions and dragons would focus on an anti-air defense IF it was attacking them. Barbs would go after the nearest available defense, instead of just the nearest building. Archers would move around broken cells / walls instead of just uselessly shooting at one wall. Giants would congregate at the nearest weak wall (would need some logic about how all of the distances play out). WBs wouldn't just bust open cells in walls with nothing in them, etc.

Cost: 150 DE at level 1
HP: 500
Range: 7 tiles
Speed: 15
Housing space: 15

Appearance:
I was thinking something that looks a little like a Mars Attack alien (but more fantasy than sci-fi) with a head that kind of glows/ pulses with light. Maybe a cape or robe.
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Weevil:
The weevil is a bug like dark elixir troop that hunts out traps, just like goblins. They'll focus on, and find the most adjacent trap, and if none are present, will attempt to dig through walls to find traps. Only when all traps are eliminated will they begin to focus on other buildings. Thinking they could be red in color, since that seems to be missing from the current troop palette, except for the burgundy of the upgraded pekkas / dragons. Traps would need hit points added (they don't have them currently) or a time to disable.
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Cost: 40 DE at level 1
HP: 60
Speed: 25
Housing space: 2

Any feedback?

Bumping this. Would love input. I think both troop ideas are original and add a valuable strategy element to the game.

Perhaps the names could change? Any feedback?

I don't think they'll hit points to traps

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Originally Posted by TheClasher4567

I don't think they'll hit points to traps

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Perhaps just have a time limit then- they find a trap, it takes them 10 seconds to disable any and all traps (although this seems unfair for giant bombs).

It helps temper there value a bit since you'd have to wait 10 seconds for the unit to get rid of it / destroy it.

Any feedback on the Hive Mind? Perhaps Mind Controller would be better.

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Originally Posted by jmb23007

Perhaps just have a time limit then- they find a trap, it takes them 10 seconds to disable any and all traps (although this seems unfair for giant bombs).

It helps temper there value a bit since you'd have to wait 10 seconds for the unit to get rid of it / destroy it.

Any feedback on the Hive Mind? Perhaps Mind Controller would be better.

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i think there should be a spell called mind controller, not a troop because the troop can die..

Battle of the bugs, nice idea. They should add this in TH11.

I'm not too keen about the Alien type troop, but the bugs seemed pretty cool.

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Originally Posted by Tikoy

Battle of the bugs, nice idea. They should add this in TH11.

I'm not too keen about the Alien type troop, but the bugs seemed pretty cool.

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What don't you like about the alien troop? To be clear, I don't want an actual alien. Just thinking a goblin with a big noggin and a cape. Do you not like the appearance or the concept?

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Originally Posted by DragonX101

i think there should be a spell called mind controller, not a troop because the troop can die..

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In my opinion, a unit would be better to improve unit AI then a spell for a few reasons:
A) Troops can die. Just like a healer, the Mind Controller or Hive Mind or whatever would be a behind the lines guy. Base layouts, traps, and other things could be used to help override their use in attacks, thus playing into the 'chess match' element of the game (you plan your base defense, and I plan my attack, one is going to win).

B) No other spells require multiple action, and the 'range' of a spell would defeat the purpose. (I saw someone suggest a mind control / AI improvement spell that you had to use to direct troops- this would mean dropping the spell, then somehow selecting units in its range and then selecting buildings, which would really be a programmatic challenge).

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Originally Posted by jmb23007

In my opinion, a unit would be better to improve unit AI then a spell for a few reasons:
A) Troops can die. Just like a healer, the Mind Controller or Hive Mind or whatever would be a behind the lines guy. Base layouts, traps, and other things could be used to help override their use in attacks, thus playing into the 'chess match' element of the game (you plan your base defense, and I plan my attack, one is going to win).

B) No other spells require multiple action, and the 'range' of a spell would defeat the purpose. (I saw someone suggest a mind control / AI improvement spell that you had to use to direct troops- this would mean dropping the spell, then somehow selecting units in its range and then selecting buildings, which would really be a programmatic challenge).

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Any more feedback. I think both of these troops deserve a good evaluation. They play well in the existing game schema, don't require much in the way of new programming, and would challenge conventional strategies.