Felkaroth's Forbidden Fortress - A TH8 Design

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Originally Posted by Felkaroth

You are certainly correct to point out the pronounced lack of staggered junctions and the few x-junctions in my design. Regrettably, any symmetrical "hybrid" design striving to protect all essential buildings will suffer these flaws because there are simply not enough walls.

That said, you were also right to bring up rotating designs. Like Pingfao's Tesla Theme Park, many rotating designs are very strong defensively. However, in such asymmetrical designs, there is always a spot where the point defenses aren't as effective as they could be in my opinion. That's why I prefer symmetrical designs... an attacker against my base design will have to face the same amount of point defenses no matter where they attack, since the Cannons and Archer Towers are evenly distributed throughout the base.

Thank you so much for your educated and skillful review of my design, Richard. ;)

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Imo its ok to have a weaker side. First most people naturally attack from the right and bottom because of space, they are right handed and the bottom is where their eyes go first. Also people will usually attack the side closest to the de. By knowing this u can exploit it in your base design. Also, the BK can serve as a major deterrent from attacking your weaker side.

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Originally Posted by 2fingaz2727

Imo its ok to have a weaker side. First most people naturally attack from the right and bottom because of space, they are right handed and the bottom is where their eyes go first. Also people will usually attack the side closest to the de. By knowing this u can exploit it in your base design. Also, the BK can serve as a major deterrent from attacking your weaker side.

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Brilliant comment. I honestly never thought of the reason why people might naturally attack a certain side. While I am very happy with my current base design, I may alter it in the future to make a more effective "lure" to one side that appears weaker.

Thanks for input :cool:

Hey Felkaroth, I decided to sport your forbidden fortress! While I quite like creating fort layouts, I like this one better than my own from both functionality and aesthetic perspectives.

I'm transitioning from two storages to three, though I'm not sure that I'll upgrade the third elixir storage and will probably use the space to inset the south tesla further into the defenses.

On that note, the one main alteration I made was to move the flank mounted T-coils into the central core by exposing the elixir storages a bit more (though one is replaced with the DE drill). This also caused the side giant funnels to alter in shape a bit, though they're still the same basically (I'm one week away from having two level 5 coils despite my other defenses being pedestrian as it fits in with my upgrade strategy of having free workers each day).

I also have four extra wall links with these changes (mostly from the funnels), so I'll have to figure something out on what to do with them. I'd like to figure out a way to harden the top and close the pathway between the air defense and the core, but it seems that all efforts there create more problems than they solve.

Still, it's 98% Forbidden Fortress, so you've got at least one convert!

Onion. (Balloons/Miniona) :rolleyes:

Glad you found my design helpful, Tohibii! I hope it serves you well! I'll have to look at your modification, it might be very worth testing! Thanks again for your feedback. ;)

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Originally Posted by Dev

i've tried your base design
and it seems like top right is not working very well

here is the recent attacks, you can see it inside.
enemy still can breach to DE storage with easy troops. ( No CC troops in the castle helping ).

but from bottom left, its working great.


https://app.box.com/s/qtr6s2gwg90v5mtnb7tp

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After examining the photos you shared, Dev, I would make the following modifications to the design:

Since you converted it to a farming layout with the townhall to the south, I would close off the north part of the central compartment to limit access to your DE storage. This can be easily done since the now centralized CC (clan castle) takes up less space than the townhall. Also, it is ESSENTIAL to this design that you have your CC filled with the best troops you have access to, as the CC is the HIGHEST DPS (damage-per-second) defensive building. And lastly, I would relocate the southern tesla to the walled 2x2 space on the north side of the base to help with the breaches you experienced in the top right side.

Hope this helps!

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Originally Posted by Sithis

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nuff said :cool:

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Originally Posted by Felkaroth

Glad you found my design helpful, Tohibii! I hope it serves you well! I'll have to look at your modification, it might be very worth testing! Thanks again for your feedback. ;)

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I need to get the defenses up to give it a proper whirl as, both before and after going Felkaroth's Forbidden Fortress (FFF), I've been getting hit by a lot of archer-heavy town hall 9 farming armies that I'm not really ready for. My cannons and mortars haven't been one-shoting them, so it's a mixed bag (again, that's with all designs).

I'm currently in Gold I league doing hybrid farming-hunting where I go for the storages by default, so some of the people coming after me are fairly roughneck. I was just hit with 31 lvl. 5 wizards, who dropped a good bit of wreck on me (I think 85%), but didn't get the 3 star by merit of half the wizards going on a merry-go round tour of the mines and elixir pumps. Realistically, I don't think any design is going to stop that with the middling state of my weapons.

One interesting thing is that it seems people attack from all directions with the FFF whereas before there were specific courses they'd come in on.

I also bought a little more breathing room for the flank mounted wizard towers with two of the extra wall links so that archers will have to get in real close to shoot them. I've still got some extra walls and the potential to siphon out more here and there, so I'd expect another mild tinker or two.

Anyway, you can check my slight tweaks @
clan: Pork Pirates
ID:Tohibii

I don't think it's necessarily "better", but I'm a big fan of the Teslas and couldn't bring myself to leave the poor things out there on the first line of defense laying ineffectual voltage into the first wave of healthy giants - better results are to be had by letting them whip the archers once the giants have expired.

I suppose I should post a picture so you can see the trap arrangement, though I'll have to figure out how to do it from the Pad.

Thanks for the design! In addition to the functionality, it looks really nice.

Its looks perfect.. But there's not enough staggered junctions.

Not bad...

I understand that making hybrids is not easy, and certain compromises must be made, however I think that compromising on junctions is not acceptable. I personally think this could become a truly great base with a few tweaks here and there to iron out those incorrect junctions.

Keep up the good work, and keep fiddling around with those junctions!