PLEASE weaken the witches at town hall 9

Unfortunately, when supercell nerfs a troop, they do so at all levels, instead of just nerfing the levels that needed to be nerfed. I fear that if you get your wish, witches will be completely useless at th11. Right now, they can be used with a select few armies, but are quite weak at th11. Also, th9 can be three starred with a lot of different armies. I want to see the percentage of attacks in your on th9 using witches with my own eyes. Not just what you're saying, but each attack just to make sure the number is actually 75%.

I dont get hit with witches that much. I have a th9 and a th10 base. Either has luck defending against witches when they have to, but its not that often. We war pretty heavily so I would see it (be taking a lot of hits from it) if this was an op strategy.

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Originally Posted by MasterOfAllTimeAndMagic

Unfortunately, when supercell nerfs a troop, they do so at all levels, instead of just nerfing the levels that needed to be nerfed. I fear that if you get your wish, witches will be completely useless at th11. Right now, they can be used with a select few armies, but are quite weak at th11. Also, th9 can be three starred with a lot of different armies. I want to see the percentage of attacks in your on th9 using witches with my own eyes. Not just what you're saying, but each attack just to make sure the number is actually 75%.

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That's my point, th9 should be base specific strategies with a ton of different comps, but in war we have half of the bases being mass witched on a fresh hit. But yeah, I don't know why they can't just nerf level 2 witches and solve the problem easily.

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Originally Posted by rwelshjr

I dont get hit with witches that much. I have a th9 and a th10 base. Either has luck defending against witches when they have to, but its not that often. We war pretty heavily so I would see it (be taking a lot of hits from it) if this was an op strategy.

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Like I said above, it's a brand new strategy. It's like any other OP mass attack, it grows exponentially, but right now only a few know about it. It's gonna be like mass miners where instead of nerfing them when people first saw it, they waited until every single person used it. Nobody knew about it until some clan used it against us in war, now the last two wars both sides have been using it. We have people fc'ing with it and getting 10 3 stars in a row with the same exact army.

For something was made the balance since no one uses the witches. Now you ask that they take away the attack on the witches if we would go back to the same no one uses the witches.

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Originally Posted by YEISLON

For something was made the balance since no one uses the witches. Now you ask that they take away the attack on the witches if we would go back to the same no one uses the witches.

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I've never in my life said they should "bring witches back" and never seen anyone ever say that they wished they were more powerful... but either way, nobody really uses dragons at th9, that doesn't mean they should make them OP so that you can use 10 of them and get a 3 star the majority of the time does it? They buffed valkyries and they were too OP and people spammed them, so they nerfed them, so why's nerfing an issue now? I'll tell you why, because people hate having to use timing and execution to get a 3 star, they want the easiest way possible.

th9 isnt the bastion of war it once was, and anyone who continues to expect it to be is being way to hopeful.

Im a th9 myself, and we need to realize that its OKAY if th9 is unbalanced. There is an argument to be made it should be unbalanced. Th9 isnt the top or even second highest town hall anymore. War should be balanced at th11, and MAYBE at th10 because they are the highest levels. Th9 is becoming the new th8 for serious players, while more casual players struggle to triple, and thats the way it should be. The serious competitive wars between the best should occur at th11 and a little at th10 IMO.

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Originally Posted by NotTheRealPaul

th9 isnt the bastion of war it once was, and anyone who continues to expect it to be is being way to hopeful.

Im a th9 myself, and we need to realize that its OKAY if th9 is unbalanced. There is an argument to be made it should be unbalanced. Th9 isnt the top or even second highest town hall anymore. War should be balanced at th11, and MAYBE at th10 because they are the highest levels. Th9 is becoming the new th8 for serious players, while more casual players struggle to triple, and thats the way it should be. The serious competitive wars between the best should occur at th11 and a little at th10 IMO.

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^Agreed
I'm a th9 too and it's not hard to see that th9 is unbalanced, you no longer need to perfect 4 different strats to be a 6 star specialist. It's easy to get away with 3 stars on most of the bases by tweaking a single strat just a little bit

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Originally Posted by athill16

Like I said above, it's a brand new strategy. It's like any other OP mass attack, it grows exponentially, but right now only a few know about it. It's gonna be like mass miners where instead of nerfing them when people first saw it, they waited until every single person used it. Nobody knew about it until some clan used it against us in war, now the last two wars both sides have been using it. We have people fc'ing with it and getting 10 3 stars in a row with the same exact army.

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So the reason we havent seen it is because it hasnt been happening much as of yet? How can it be a huge problem for "everybody" if it hasnt happened much? The appearance here is that its not "everybody" with this problem its just some guys in your clan. You mention that someone used the exact same attack to take down 10 bases in your clan. That sounds a lot like the 10 bases share the same weaknesses.

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Originally Posted by NotTheRealPaul

th9 isnt the bastion of war it once was, and anyone who continues to expect it to be is being way to hopeful.

Im a th9 myself, and we need to realize that its OKAY if th9 is unbalanced. There is an argument to be made it should be unbalanced. Th9 isnt the top or even second highest town hall anymore. War should be balanced at th11, and MAYBE at th10 because they are the highest levels. Th9 is becoming the new th8 for serious players, while more casual players struggle to triple, and thats the way it should be. The serious competitive wars between the best should occur at th11 and a little at th10 IMO.

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Originally Posted by FrozenStorm

^Agreed
I'm a th9 too and it's not hard to see that th9 is unbalanced, you no longer need to perfect 4 different strats to be a 6 star specialist. It's easy to get away with 3 stars on most of the bases by tweaking a single strat just a little bit

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This just proves my point even more, if th9's are already expected to be 3 starred, how does making it even easier make any sense? If it's too easy to 3 star, it makes no sense to make it anything other than harder. Whatever you say about th9, it will will always have a place in competitive wars whether you like it or not, so why not better integrate it into wars? AKA make it so that it takes skill to 3 star?

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Originally Posted by rwelshjr

So the reason we havent seen it is because it hasnt been happening much as of yet? How can it be a huge problem for "everybody" if it hasnt happened much? The appearance here is that its not "everybody" with this problem its just some guys in your clan. You mention that someone used the exact same attack to take down 10 bases in your clan. That sounds a lot like the 10 bases share the same weaknesses.

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When did I say it's a huge problem for everybody? I said it's a problem in the serious war scene which means it will trickle to the less serious clans when these hardcore clash youtubers start posting about it, it's ALWAYS been that way in clash. How is it just a problem for my clan when it's happening in every clan in CWL? And seriously? Instead of agreeing that they are OP after this update you just assume the bases are bad? What about when mass miners 3 starred every single th11 it was used against? That wasn't because of a bad base, it was because the troop was too OP so it got nerfed. And again like I said, anyone who defends spam attacks just wants an easier way to 3 star without actually scouting a base. This attack works even with wiz towers placed on the outside and if witches can make it through that, please explain to me how you defend against them.