Players leaving in war because their clan leader doesn't get what he wants

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March 19th, 2017
Chuckt

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Originally Posted by serenitycotc2

Thanks for doing the work on this one. I reviewed all of his threads and posts and he's way out to lunch. Nothing but complaints, toxic behaviour, demands and expectations to have everything his way. I've written him off permanently as a troll and won't read or contribute to his inane threads anymore.

I have a college degree which is probably more than a lot of these kiddies have which gives me all the rights and privileges to speak my mind.
March 19th, 2017
Chuckt

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Originally Posted by dfox

Ok chuck, I've done a bit of searching, your clan is lv2, there's a leader who is not "active" ! He has no donations, 1 attack for the season.
Theres only 2 coleaders, one is you the other isn't active either, he has received troops but not donated.
Your a brand new th9 level 1 AQ, and donate well, but have little to offer in high level troop donations.
Most members are inactive, the few that are active are of low level.
What do you expect mate, every aspect of your clan isn't inviting.
All this complaining about sc is rubbish.
There is no leadership group in your clan, because other then you the others don't play!

The clan only just survives, and it's only because your donating to those low accounts and hoppers that it even exists.
Stop your complaining and join a clan that's alive and established, join with players that accually want to play the game.
Your in the gutter crying poor, blaming the world, dust yourself off and join the real game.

Our clan is established and we've been here over three years because the clan has changed its name and they did that by leaving one and starting a new one. The reason the clan holds together is because some of us are relatives and friends so we stick together. The fact that they've been playing together for three years is by definition "established".

The leader is active because he is TH 9 going to TH10. He does play and he helps me with my attacks.

The other co-leader does donate to me.

You ignored some of the other accounts.
March 19th, 2017
PatrickV

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Originally Posted by Chuckt

The clan was a family and friends clan. You don't treat people in your family and friends circle like dirt the way everyone expects a regular clan to operate.

Note the word I've put in bold? It's not anymore. Now you have to beware of Internet people.
March 19th, 2017
OzAudi

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Originally Posted by Chuckt

In order to grow a clan, you have to let people in. In order to balance war weight, we let low level players in.
We are actually covering the map with two defections because we are actually winning and we still have more attacks left.

If alarm bells didn't ring loudly when the player joined after repeated friend knock-backs and the volume didn't increase when the player wanted "friends" to join, you lack the detective skills required as a leader or co.

On the flip-side, if you use lower level to gain a decent war match then you reap what you sow. I'm not suggesting it's wrong, I'm saying don't whinge and ask for game changes when the coins falls Tails when you bet on Heads.

If you are truly Family and Friends, don't recruit outside that circle. F & F clans have enough issues without adding more.
March 19th, 2017
Chuckt

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Originally Posted by TheConfuzed1

I'm sorry, but I don't need the individual needs of every clan to affect my own. My clan is run the way that I want, and I don't need anyone else imposing rules on my clan. Knowing that war deadbeats get booted keeps participation at 100% nearly every war. Those who do not attack, are excused if they are new, and demoted if they have rank. They attack every time, because that is how we run our ship.

We don't bully. We keep people in check but that is bullying. We're a family and friends clan.
March 19th, 2017
OzAudi

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Originally Posted by Chuckt

I have a college degree which is probably more than a lot of these kiddies have which gives me all the rights and privileges to speak my mind.

Your qualifications mean little unless they pertain to a thread topic. Now you *are* being toxic.
March 19th, 2017
Chuckt

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Originally Posted by Zegaloft

What a bad analogy.

Why do you keep on redirecting the problem back at SC when it's clearly a management issue YOUR clan has? If you don't have the ability to understand and keep on being ignorant, I advise you step down from your ranks, get in a well managed clan and learn your lesson. It seems like no matter how people word it out to help you, you just don't listen.

We are just trying to play the game. It isn't a management issue when every player from global has to be managed.
If you put in software control that keeps people out that have hopped 5 times in a month then guess what would happen? I wouldn't have to be ripped off by every player and I wouldn't have to take hours out of my day recruiting, looking at their profile, looking them up on Clash of Clan Stats which means they would be gone before I could get the research done and I would spend hours doing stuff that I can't control anyway. I would actually be able to play the game and have fun.
March 19th, 2017
Chuckt

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Originally Posted by OzAudi

Your qualifications mean little unless they pertain to a thread topic. Now you *are* being toxic.

It means you are being intollerant to my opinion and not allowing me to speak. That is bullying.
March 19th, 2017
Chuckt

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Originally Posted by wecj3381

if someone entered my clan and asked for elder, they be booted immediately, no questions asked. If they got pushy about being in war or bringing friends in and getting them in war, I'd boot all of them if they seemed at all like they were going to be an issue. I honestly feel like the warning signs were there, but the OP chose quantity over quality in regards to his clan membership. I'd rather run 10v10 wars forever then allow someone the opportunity to ruin a war or disrupt the atmosphere of the clan.

Hindsight is 20/20 but I'm not a mind reader. Other people complain but don't act like that so therefore we couldn't know. Is having a request too much to ask? I don't believe I have to be mean to every person or respond in kind to every person.
March 19th, 2017
OzAudi

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Originally Posted by Chuckt

It means you are being intollerant to my opinion and not allowing me to speak. That is bullying.

No-one is stopping you from voicing your opinion. Just count your posts in this thread alone.

And don't assume people who disagree with your opinions and ideas are trying to bully you.

When you post compliant threads on subjects that you (and you alone) enjoy complete authority over (like clan membership and war roster), then most experienced forum members will disagree.

Flaunting academic qualifications and real life experiences as the be-all, end-all solution to OTHER'S responses and calling them kiddies, is utter nonsense unless they relate to the thread and downright insulting.

Your issue raised in this thread are clan management, pure and simple. No amount of changes by SC will allow you to avoid ramifications of poor decisions.

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