Clan Wars, In-Depth ideas.

So people have been saying clan wars is difficult idea that's why it's taking so long blah blah blah. Well here you go Supercell, some ideas to help you along the way.

Beginning:

To initiate a clan war, a clan leader goes to another clans page, and at the top there is a button called "Initiate War" now a new box pops up and it's got all the info including a message box. You can say whatever you want, set a date and time the war will start, limits on things, game types etc. Just basic stuff. The leader gets a notification about the war. He can accept/decline. But in order for this to be easier/have better communication WE WOULD NEED PRIVATE MESSAGING. I don't know why that hasn't been implemented yet but that's a must for this idea. So the 2 clan leaders discuss details about the war.

Once the War has been set up, in the clan chat, it pops up with a message "(user) Has initiated a war against (clan), click to join (button)". Then all can join. Now the leader can manage the group, remove players or change things as seen fit.

For game types there can be quite a few. Base Race, Mano-y-Mano, Test Your Skills, just to name a few possible.

Base Race: A clan leader selects a base from a set list, that the enemy team must attack. After both teams attack the base, whoever did it in the fastest time gets a point. After the first battle has finished, the other team now has their opportunity to pick the base. So both teams go at it. Now if they are tied, there is a tie breaker. Both teams attack a pre-determined base (chosen at random). You can modify for up to 3,5,7 points etc.

Twist: teams must determine their army before they see the base. (This gives advantage to team picking the base).

How it would work as a clan:
Idea 1) Each player attacks with their army on the base, and the average attack time is the time used to determine winner between clans. OR, you could do the fastest time from each clan.

Idea 2) All players in the clan are on the same attack screen, each can deploy units on the base. So everyone is working together attacking at the same time. (I know that would be difficult to create).

Mano-y-Mano: Whichever clan is going first, each competitor from the attacking clan selects a member they want to attack on the opposing clan. Then they all commence attacking the base. The total # of stars they get is added up and that is what counts as their points. For round 2 the other clan does the exact same thing as the first. After all the smoke has settled whoever comes out with the most stars total wins. In the event of a tie, whoever got the highest percentage vs. the other clan member with the highest percentage. And that's the tie breaker. If multiple people on the same clan get 100% then whichever team got the most 100%'s wins the battle.

Test your Skills: So this is basically one clan designs/builds a base. Once they build it, the other team must attack that base. The TH level is already decided between the clan leaders before it starts. So one team builds a base the other attacks it, then vice versa. Whoever did better wins. It'd be determined by stars, if the same number of stars are achieved, then whoever had the higher percentage. If both teams get the same percentage and number of stars, the process would repeat until one clan is the winner.

How it would work as a clan:
All the members in the team would be able to help edit/design the base. Again, I know this would be difficult to create but hey, if you want to advance the game you gotta take big steps. So anyways, all members get to help design/create the base, by placing things/moving things and such. Then for attacking, only one person would get to attack, but they would all be able to watch the person attack. (Clan leader can pick who gets to attack).


So this is just scraping the surface of all the possibilities involving clan wars. It's something that would evolve over time, Supercell if you happen to release this. It's okay if you release it in bits/segments. Get the general base for the mini-game out into CoC. And over time change/add things as seen fit. This isn't something where you just throw it all into the game at the same time. It has to be gradual. No game has ever put something incredibly game changing into effect in one instant, everything is gradual.

Edit:
Oh I forgot to mention the rewards. Here is a few ideas I came up with.

Clan trophy count. Similar to solo trophies. With leagues and the whole deal, except league bonuses would actually be good! On top of that you could stake resources in your clan wars. It would be another option for the clan leaders when initiating a war. You would put up the amount you want to stake. Then it would be evenly taken out from each player on the roster's storages. And if you win the earnings are evenly split up as well.


So in closing, I could go on for a while about all the possibilities, but feel free to comment questions or anything. Or even post your own game mode ideas or things related to Clan Wars. Because this really needs to be added.

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Originally Posted by GooseCookin

So people have been saying clan wars is difficult idea that's why it's taking so long blah blah blah. Well here you go Supercell, some ideas to help you along the way.

Beginning:

To initiate a clan war, a clan leader goes to another clans page, and at the top there is a button called "Initiate War" now a new box pops up and it's got all the info including a message box. You can say whatever you want, set a date and time the war will start, limits on things, game types etc. Just basic stuff. The leader gets a notification about the war. He can accept/decline. But in order for this to be easier/have better communication WE WOULD NEED PRIVATE MESSAGING. I don't know why that hasn't been implemented yet but that's a must for this idea. So the 2 clan leaders discuss details about the war.

Once the War has been set up, in the clan chat, it pops up with a message "(user) Has initiated a war against (clan), click to join (button)". Then all can join. Now the leader can manage the group, remove players or change things as seen fit.

For game types there can be quite a few. Base Race, Mano-y-Mano, Test Your Skills, just to name a few possible.

Base Race: A clan leader selects a base from a set list, that the enemy team must attack. After both teams attack the base, whoever did it in the fastest time gets a point. After the first battle has finished, the other team now has their opportunity to pick the base. So both teams go at it. Now if they are tied, there is a tie breaker. Both teams attack a pre-determined base (chosen at random). You can modify for up to 3,5,7 points etc.

Twist: teams must determine their army before they see the base. (This gives advantage to team picking the base).

How it would work as a clan:
Idea 1) Each player attacks with their army on the base, and the average attack time is the time used to determine winner between clans. OR, you could do the fastest time from each clan.

Idea 2) All players in the clan are on the same attack screen, each can deploy units on the base. So everyone is working together attacking at the same time. (I know that would be difficult to create).

Mano-y-Mano: Whichever clan is going first, each competitor from the attacking clan selects a member they want to attack on the opposing clan. Then they all commence attacking the base. The total # of stars they get is added up and that is what counts as their points. For round 2 the other clan does the exact same thing as the first. After all the smoke has settled whoever comes out with the most stars total wins. In the event of a tie, whoever got the highest percentage vs. the other clan member with the highest percentage. And that's the tie breaker. If multiple people on the same clan get 100% then whichever team got the most 100%'s wins the battle.

Test your Skills: So this is basically one clan designs/builds a base. Once they build it, the other team must attack that base. The TH level is already decided between the clan leaders before it starts. So one team builds a base the other attacks it, then vice versa. Whoever did better wins. It'd be determined by stars, if the same number of stars are achieved, then whoever had the higher percentage. If both teams get the same percentage and number of stars, the process would repeat until one clan is the winner.

How it would work as a clan:
All the members in the team would be able to help edit/design the base. Again, I know this would be difficult to create but hey, if you want to advance the game you gotta take big steps. So anyways, all members get to help design/create the base, by placing things/moving things and such. Then for attacking, only one person would get to attack, but they would all be able to watch the person attack. (Clan leader can pick who gets to attack).


So this is just scraping the surface of all the possibilities involving clan wars. It's something that would evolve over time, Supercell if you happen to release this. It's okay if you release it in bits/segments. Get the general base for the mini-game out into CoC. And over time change/add things as seen fit. This isn't something where you just throw it all into the game at the same time. It has to be gradual. No game has ever put something incredibly game changing into effect in one instant, everything is gradual.

Edit:
Oh I forgot to mention the rewards. Here is a few ideas I came up with.

Clan trophy count. Similar to solo trophies. With leagues and the whole deal, except league bonuses would actually be good! On top of that you could stake resources in your clan wars. It would be another option for the clan leaders when initiating a war. You would put up the amount you want to stake. Then it would be evenly taken out from each player on the roster's storages. And if you win the earnings are evenly split up as well.


So in closing, I could go on for a while about all the possibilities, but feel free to comment questions or anything. Or even post your own game mode ideas or things related to Clan Wars. Because this really needs to be added.

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Firstly, I'd like to say that it is rly good to see someone actually think about clan wars, rather then just scream that SC should introduce it.

Ur base race idea is quite interesting, I thought that something similar should be introduced as an individual fortnightly contest for gems. I'm assuming u mean they choose a base from the goblin maps (hopefully we get a few new ones). Though it is quite feasible for clan wars also. But idea 2 won't really work.

For the Mano-y-Mano, I got a question, what about shields and resources from the base being attacked. Bit unfair for one base to suffer all the hits. Cos either the attackers get no resources (what about troop and spell costs), or the defender is gonna lose probably all his resources. This is probably not an option.

And the test ur skills, just doesn't seem right, having a clan build a separate village to be attacked.

But I don't think this is the clan wars that must ppl want, it is more like a clan competition.

So my idea is,

Clan leaders will have to select ready for war at the start of each league season (every fortnight). Only members in the clan at the beginning are eligible to participate in the war.

Then clans will be randomly partnered based on both the clan points and average town hall level (so farming clans dont get partnered with low level trophy hunters)

Now, either we can give leaders a choice to confirm the war, or they could be forced to accept it if they had put ready for war.

For the actual war, either
Members can be automatically partnered, again based on trophies and town hall, and they will both attack each other once. Either a winner from each match can be given a point or the total number of stars can be used to determine the winning clan. Winner will be based firstly on number of stars, and secondly based on %. (Force ppl to try for the th). Also if ur attacked first, u will get a notification saying u were attacked in ur clan war, but u cant see the attack until u have also attacked. So u dont know how many stars u need to win. So either the number of points or number of stars will be used to determine the winner.



Another option is that each member can choose to attack anyone in the other clan. However each clan can only attack a member in the other clan once, and each member can only attack a member in the other clan once. So ur strong ppl have to attack the other clans strongest ppl. The total number of stars won by a clan will be the winner.

To tie it into the normal game, resources will be won and lost, shields gained and trophies also won and lost.

Ur rewards sound good, I assume u mean the clan league will be based on the clan trophies (based on individual trophies) rather than based on clan war victories.

Lets try and build a working model for clan wars, so any constructive criticisms or additions are welcome.

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Originally Posted by amismail

Firstly, I'd like to say that it is rly good to see someone actually think about clan wars, rather then just scream that SC should introduce it.

Ur base race idea is quite interesting, I thought that something similar should be introduced as an individual fortnightly contest for gems. I'm assuming u mean they choose a base from the goblin maps (hopefully we get a few new ones). Though it is quite feasible for clan wars also. But idea 2 won't really work.

For the Mano-y-Mano, I got a question, what about shields and resources from the base being attacked. Bit unfair for one base to suffer all the hits. Cos either the attackers get no resources (what about troop and spell costs), or the defender is gonna lose probably all his resources. This is probably not an option.

And the test ur skills, just doesn't seem right, having a clan build a separate village to be attacked.

But I don't think this is the clan wars that must ppl want, it is more like a clan competition.

So my idea is,

Clan leaders will have to select ready for war at the start of each league season (every fortnight). Only members in the clan at the beginning are eligible to participate in the war.

Then clans will be randomly partnered based on both the clan points and average town hall level (so farming clans dont get partnered with low level trophy hunters)

Now, either we can give leaders a choice to confirm the war, or they could be forced to accept it if they had put ready for war.

For the actual war, either
Members can be automatically partnered, again based on trophies and town hall, and they will both attack each other once. Either a winner from each match can be given a point or the total number of stars can be used to determine the winning clan. Winner will be based firstly on number of stars, and secondly based on %. (Force ppl to try for the th). Also if ur attacked first, u will get a notification saying u were attacked in ur clan war, but u cant see the attack until u have also attacked. So u dont know how many stars u need to win. So either the number of points or number of stars will be used to determine the winner.



Another option is that each member can choose to attack anyone in the other clan. However each clan can only attack a member in the other clan once, and each member can only attack a member in the other clan once. So ur strong ppl have to attack the other clans strongest ppl. The total number of stars won by a clan will be the winner.

To tie it into the normal game, resources will be won and lost, shields gained and trophies also won and lost.

Ur rewards sound good, I assume u mean the clan league will be based on the clan trophies (based on individual trophies) rather than based on clan war victories.

Lets try and build a working model for clan wars, so any constructive criticisms or additions are welcome.

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Thanks for the reply, and great post, read it fully.

For base race yes it would be similar to a goblin map from the campaign. But more designed based on actual player bases. Something more realistic, because most of the Goblin bases are just ♥♥♥♥ thrown together lol. I know idea 2 is far fetched but i'm pretty sure it's possible, just very difficult. I am starting to lean against it now however.

For mano-y-mano let me go further in depth. When the clan leader has is roster ready to go and they are about to begin war against another base. It doesn't matter what those players have for shields or anything like that. They should be fully prepared for the battle. They should have their armies and spells and base fully prepared. A clan war would not have the same effect on a base as a multiplayer attack would. Meaning the base wouldn't get destroyed, lose resources, or anything like that. Think of it as the base is duplicated for that Clan Wars instance, and it's just been replicated to fight/defend for that single battle. Thus giving him no shield, no loss or no gain. The only gain/loss would be from the Stake the clans put in initially.

How staking would work: When the Leader goes to initiate a clan there will be a box with a few basic options. For example, the type of stake, how many members on the roster, Stake (Y/N) among other things. If staking is enabled, there will be a box to enter an amount of resources to stake. This is then divided amongst the members on the roster. Example, if the stake is 2 Million gold, and there is 10 members, each member loses 200k gold. Now if they win the battle, they get the 200k back, and then the 200k that the other team put in. So thats how you make your money. Yes you would have to account for spell cost or army cost but oh well you can always stake more right? Also you wouldn't be able to stake more then what a member can offer. If you need 200k from each member and a member only has 100k gold, it would say insufficient funds and he would either need to be removed or the stake lowered.

And for test your skills, you could also simply select a base from one of the clan members, that sounds more feasible.

Also yes I agree this is more like Clan Competition, Clan wars would be a little bit more difficult but it's a nice start. It's good to get the ideas written down finally.

I like your take on the actual wars. It sounds pretty similar to the Mano-y-Mano game type. I like your idea about ready for war, or searching for wars. I think tying it into the game fully like you said with shields/resource loss and all that being good.

The clan wars should be passive instead of active like I originally said. This way it would work better for people so they don't all have to be on at the same time. To enter your clan into the clan wars you would click on your clan castle and then click on clan wars (if you were leader). Here you can manage your clans options for war, then on another tab search for wars, then have another tab for leaderboards, and lastly see your active wars (can only have so many)

First and foremost on the clan options is you can manage your roster. Here you have people that can participate in your clan wars, being able to take people in and out.

On that clan options page you could check "Ready for War" which would engage you in war at any time. Note: there would be limitations so that way a group of TH7's don't get owned by a TH10 clan. The leader could set for example Max Th Lvl: 8 so that way the clan needs to have only people with Th8 on their roster. The ready for war option would not allow you to do stakes, so you only get what you can steal.

Now once you get put into a clan war, if your base has a shield, it is overridden by the person attacking with the clan war. For balance, anything that is under upgrade will be paused to become active again. This way the base is fully functional at all times. You will incur resource loss and a shield if you do lose the battle in the clan war.

I like your idea of how you can't see how bad they hit your base until after you attack them. So for example after you get attacked by the opposing clan. Your base would not be shown as damaged, you wouldn't have a shield. It would all be hidden until you attacked him, you would only know that he did attack. Once you finish your attack, you then get any remaining time you have on the shield. So that means the shield timer does still run down while you can't see it.

So that is the Ready for War option, with the Mano-y-mano twist.

The other style of war would be actively searching for wars on the clan list. You can search for clans in your clan league, or just clans ranked around you. Or just randomly search for clans. You would see clans based around your Clan trophy level. You can also do a custom search by Clan max TH lvl, and other stuff. When you find a clan you want to go to war with. The leader will then get a pop up screen. On here it would show lots of options like staking allowed, spells allowed, certain troops disallowed, and lots of stuff. Tomorrow I might whip up something in VB for a better demonstration. But that screen would basically determine the rules for the war. The leader can then decline or modify the rules until they agree on something.

As far as rewards and stuff go. There would be a seperate trophy count tied to the clan. It will be Clan Wars Trophies and then Clan total trophies (the ones we have now). Clan wars trophies will be earned like normal trophies, but through the clan wars game. There would be leagues similar to the ones there are now. They would also have bonuses, so for each clan war you win you would get a bonus added if you win. The bonuses would be plausible unlike the league bonuses in place now.

There is still lots of stuff to talk about, we are getting further in depth now however. Tomorrow when I have time I'll work on some basic GUI's for the war, just to get a better general idea.

You could also add the idea of attacking other troops, like army vs army. This would only be possible if someone from the other clan is online that is within 5 lvls of you. You would get a empty base (not even a townhall) and you can place your troops on one half only, the opponent gets the other half. The troops will battle eachother, and the player who defeats ALL troops of the opponent(there's no time limit)and you get a reward. Instead of defeating all troops you can also have a Capture the Flag, and you have ro divide yor troops in defending and attacking. The defending troops will stay on their own half, and the attacking troops will try to defeat the enemy troops and captyre the flag. YOU CAN'T CHANGE THE FUNCTION OF TROOPS, SO THINK CAREFULLY

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Originally Posted by Metten98

You could also add the idea of attacking other troops, like army vs army. This would only be possible if someone from the other clan is online that is within 5 lvls of you. You would get a empty base (not even a townhall) and you can place your troops on one half only, the opponent gets the other half. The troops will battle eachother, and the player who defeats ALL troops of the opponent(there's no time limit)and you get a reward. Instead of defeating all troops you can also have a Capture the Flag, and you have ro divide yor troops in defending and attacking. The defending troops will stay on their own half, and the attacking troops will try to defeat the enemy troops and captyre the flag. YOU CAN'T CHANGE THE FUNCTION OF TROOPS, SO THINK CAREFULLY

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I like this ideas but they are more of an individual thing, maybe if it's like the Mano-y-mano deal, each does it against a member of the opposing clan.

Yeah I was also thinking about the Troop Vs Troop thing. Maybe include spells too? It's a good idea that has a lot of potential as well. It would require lots of quick-thinking from both players and have a good knowledge of knowing what they're doing. And instead of CTF I was thinking a more tug-of-war thing. Each side has a Town hall they have to protect. Theres a small indicator at the bottom based on who has advanced further. Each would have a small spawn zone near the front of the Townhall. They deploy a troop who goes straight for the enemy town hall. And the further they advance the more area you can spawn into. This would create great strategic gameplay. Also once they pass the half way point, and get into enemy territory, once they push you back the enemy will lose spawn zones, while you are capped at spawning at the half way line, to create balance.

Good idea too will think on it.

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Originally Posted by GooseCookin

I like this ideas but they are more of an individual thing, maybe if it's like the Mano-y-mano deal, each does it against a member of the opposing clan.

Yeah I was also thinking about the Troop Vs Troop thing. Maybe include spells too? It's a good idea that has a lot of potential as well. It would require lots of quick-thinking from both players and have a good knowledge of knowing what they're doing. And instead of CTF I was thinking a more tug-of-war thing. Each side has a Town hall they have to protect. Theres a small indicator at the bottom based on who has advanced further. Each would have a small spawn zone near the front of the Townhall. They deploy a troop who goes straight for the enemy town hall. And the further they advance the more area you can spawn into. This would create great strategic gameplay. Also once they pass the half way point, and get into enemy territory, once they push you back the enemy will lose spawn zones, while you are capped at spawning at the half way line, to create balance.

Good idea too will think on it.

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Yes, it would be capture the townhall then, and it would be a good idea of loosing/gaining spawnzones, but you need to keep in mind that if there's an enemy troop within 5 blocks it will be attacked, and the starting spawnzone must be on the whole side where your townhall is, as if it wont be unlocked if troops go straight to the enemy townhall, like this you can attack enemy troops from 2 sides. And of course you're right about spells, that would be a good addition

Alright so this is something I threw together in Visual Basic for the time being. It's a general idea of the Clan Wars page.

Note there will be more added

http://puu.sh/4aiua.png

Love it, better than any other clan wars ideas out there :).

my best imagination of clan wars is... every clan are placed in a map randomly and attack each other. How to attack, how to keep the balance, how to avoid resources transfer from this method and how is the prize I don't know.

It is a hard work. But I'm sure a good clan wars system will live up the game again. Many friends quit cause they said they don't see any new feature when max TH9.

Bumping to get back onto front page for more people to see and comment, will post more when I get back from work