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It couldn't be because people choose to play all content provided by Supercell for each townhall, huh? Your vendetta against maxers is unbelievable mate. Almost mind consuming imo. Your hate for them clearly clouds your judgement against them.Quote:
Originally Posted by SinOfDusk
The same could be said of you and engineers not so long ago.Quote:
Originally Posted by xXXCHRISXXx
People here are arguing that maxing then holding (perma TH9, perma TH10) is engineering for CWL / engineering for friendly war. It's clearly taking an atypical path to optimize their base for that kind of war.Quote:
Originally Posted by XtremeGamer234
Do you disagree that some people in CWL max then hold, rather than upgrading to the next TH level like normal?
Hopefully it's not bad to discuss this, but mentioning Brietbart is sufficient reason to downvote that comment. We don't need politics here. The game has enough to argue about as it is.Quote:
Originally Posted by benjaminm
That argument doesn't make much sense. In CWL, per the rules, the makeup of the war roster is decided and agreed upon by the two clans. Though an admin can step in and make a decision if an agreement is not reached. However, no .5s or engineered bases are allowed, so while it is certainly possible that people stay at max instead of upgrading in order to participate, I don't believe one could state that they are engineering their bases for war.Quote:
Originally Posted by littledoctor
Can a mid TH9 join cwl? That is what I keep asking, because most maxers seem to think that attacking skill and base design should be the only determining factors in war. So why don't you take mid TH9s as well? If they have the same attacking skill and good base design, they should fare as well as maxed TH9s, no?Quote:
Originally Posted by Gxr900
If they do not fare as well, why so? Shouldn't attacking skill + base design be paramount? Why shun players who are not maxed for their TH level? Isn't that a form of engineering because you only take maxed TH levels and not mid/low TH levels?
Engineering = upgrading in way that gives you an advantage
Is that why people max? Tell me truthfully, how many people max because of this reason? Because I see most newer players wanting to access new content because they are bored. But they seem to think that if you do not max TH levels, as per youtube or clanmate advice, you are a noob and a scrub.Quote:
Originally Posted by xXXCHRISXXx
Many people max because there is a perceived advantage there, like not getting shunned by clans or being laughed at global.
That is not the definition most of us would agree with.Quote:
Originally Posted by SinOfDusk
It would go like this:
Engineering = upgrading in a way that hides your strength from the war matchmaker
edited because apparently I am incapable of writing a 5 word sentence without 2 typos.
I don't see anything in the rules that prohibit a mid TH from joining as long as they have all of their buildings. Though I actually thought you did need to be max and think I stated as much on this forum yesterday or the day before. Per the rules, two clans just need to agree on the roster makeup, so if they agree on the mid TH9 that should be fine from what I can see. There is no advantage to be gained here in this particular area unless you define advantage as participation eligibility, but that seems to be a stretch.Quote:
Originally Posted by SinOfDusk
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1...MI/mobilebasic
That's incomplete. SinOfDusk's definition is better, though I would add some qualifiers. Doing it on purpose matters. Your base might resemble an engineered base but if you made it that way by sheer random accident you haven't done any engineering.Quote:
Originally Posted by dorsan
That said, maxing and holding to optimize for friendly war does fit your definition, if you extend "from the war matchmaker" to include matching friendly wars by TH level, because there is a big difference between a max TH9 and a mid TH9 in friendly war, but without some side channel communication that extra strength is hidden.
The best definition of engineering is min/maxing in clash, without necessarily restricting it to the purpose of clan wars. For war advantage is the most popular purpose, but there could be others. There were nodef bases before there were clan wars that were engineered for lulz.
There's min/maxing in lots of games. A great book is _The Munchkin's Guide To Power Gaming_ by Steve Jackson Games.
Fortunately I didn't say they were engineering their bases for war; I said they were optimizing their bases for friendly war. When matchmaking is done by TH level only, max TH has a big advantage.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gxr900
Optimizing is a great synonym for engineering.
Yes. And furthermore https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WnVcseG62RcQuote:
Originally Posted by SinOfDusk
your ignorance on this topic is apparently endless.