Should i Upgrade To Th9?

Not sure if this is the right forum had no idea where to ask this
Well , let's continue iam a th8 planning to go th9 ASAP
U think its good to upgrade th now here's some info about my base
Well,iam sure need to work more on def before th9 but BTW here is it
Walls under construction(not going to max them Btw)
4 level 8 pieces 169 level 7 pieces 52 level 6 pieces
Wiz towers
Level 6
level 5
Level
archer towers
level 8 x3
Level 9
Level 10
cannons
Level 8x4
Level 10
Air defenses
Level 6x3 all max
Mortars
Level 5x2
Level 4x2
Barbarian king level 8
Teslas level 2 About 2 of them is upgrading to level 3
Builders 4
Camps storages max
Sweeper level 2
Bomb tower max
Bombs one level 5 rest lvl4
Spring traps level 2 all of them air bombs max giant bombs max skeleton traps max
better check my profile see yourself #92PCP9Y8PC
Please don't tell me max walls i won't just level 7 should be maxed check the tag for troops and stuff all my dark troops and spells are level 1 btw lol

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Originally Posted by AndroidGamer5852

Please don't tell me max walls i won't just level 7 should be maxed check the tag for troops and stuff all my dark troops and spells are level 1 btw lol

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About the walls thingy, if you don't do your walls you'll be eaten by the gingers, they get two more levels in th9 and th10 with max level can attack you. Jus sayin'.

If you upgrade for war, just don't. There's so much wrong with a war base like that without even dark troops (level 1 are worthless).
But, if you want to farm, going to th9 will yield better de and the archer queen to work on.

I'd still rather not upgrade with what you've got so far, wait a bit.

Go ahead...always could use another undeveloped TH9 to wipe up.

IMO, TH8 is the one TH level that should ALWAYS be maxed before advancing ( including walls). It's a whole new ballgame after TH8.

Nothing better to make the transition easier than having a maxed 8 going to 9 with full storages for immediate building of the new stuff. I went to 9 with everything maxed and all storages, collectors and mines filled. Boom...two days later they were all empty, and i was on the way to a mid level 9.

But it's your choice....i always appreciate easy bases to loot without a worry about Revenge.

I went up with defences not max and some research not done, as my king and walls were max. I do not regret it in the least, one of the best choices I have made in the game after maxing every other th level. Personally I wouldn't advise it before max king as all your attention should be on growing your new queen when you go up. King levels are relatively cheap at the stage where you are and build times short, so I would suggest max him while doing as much as you can on walls and the bigger money/time defences especially tesla, and for research max any outstanding regular farm troops, valks, rage, heal (if missing any of these), then go if you are feeling itchy for the queen, making sure all stores full (especially de) on the day th upgrade is done.

Edit: contrary to the poster above, of all the levels so far I would say 8 was the LEAST important to max. But going up just too soon on the king growth is not a good idea.

Personally, I don't upgrade my TH until everything is maxed, however, it's your game and you should choose where you want to be with it. I do think in your case upgrading to TH 9 would be less beneficial and I believe a lot of your fun will be taken away as you'll be raided by MUCH stronger opponents.

I'd say max your th before you upgrade.
But you can play it however you want, rushed or maxed.

You didn't mention if you are a war player or not. For instance, I'm a farmer and this is my th8, upgrading to th9: - http://imgur.com/a/Er7Dv

If you aren't a war player, it's actually a good thing going to th9 ASAP to work on your queen (and pretty much make your upgrade schedule spin around her until th11). Just don't expect to defend loot at th9 - which could happen once in a blue moon if you max th8... In fact, if you are a farmer, your defenses might get you some "free shields" as a th10 if you pair them with inferno towers.

(Actually, sometimes, even if you are, other than for praticing some comps which, hopefully, you won't need to use again on war, th8 is a pretty useless th. My opinion doesn't really matter, tho, if your clan leader doesn't agree with me... Since you are saying things like "don't tell me to max my walls", you probably have an answer, already)

Also, it's worthy to note that, if you just don't want to get lvl 8 walls on th8, it's (very) ok - but if you have trouble farming them, maybe stepping up your farming is more important than going for th9 asap.

I.e. I'm not working on walls on my second accout, but I've sit to upgrade walls twice since I've started the second account. Had I not better things to do, I could easily get them all to 7 in one day and a nice lvl 8 core in one sunday afternoon, give or take.

Other than that, if you have max storages, lvl 5 goblins (that turn into lvl 6 goblins on the first week-ish of th9) and lvl 5 barch + 200 camp space, you can fix pretty much any rushed th9 if you have time to farm efficiently a little bit. Max CC for th also helps a lot.

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Originally Posted by DoritosSk

About the walls thingy, if you don't do your walls you'll be eaten by the gingers, they get two more levels in th9 and th10 with max level can attack you. Jus sayin'.

If you upgrade for war, just don't. There's so much wrong with a war base like that without even dark troops (level 1 are worthless).
But, if you want to farm, going to th9 will yield better de and the archer queen to work on.

I'd still rather not upgrade with what you've got so far, wait a bit.

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Just can't wait for th9 i might max as much as possible in th9 iam using barch elixer is really easy for me might max quickly just need help in farming de other than that iam good

The entire TH8 is a waste of time, everything you can gain as a TH8 in 2 weeks is weaker than anything you can gain in 2 weeks at TH9.

Remember, every day you spend in TH8 is a day away from a maxed AQ

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Originally Posted by HFlashman

Go ahead...always could use another undeveloped TH9 to wipe up.

IMO, TH8 is the one TH level that should ALWAYS be maxed before advancing ( including walls). It's a whole new ballgame after TH8.

Nothing better to make the transition easier than having a maxed 8 going to 9 with full storages for immediate building of the new stuff. I went to 9 with everything maxed and all storages, collectors and mines filled. Boom...two days later they were all empty, and i was on the way to a mid level 9.

But it's your choice....i always appreciate easy bases to loot without a worry about Revenge.

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Maxing out TH8 is never a smart idea, never. You can do it if you want to feel good, to be called a maxer (whatever that means), or just go ahead and rush. ITs simply better for loot and DE. Heres a little post on why TH8 is a waste, OP.

As a maxed TH7 coming to TH8, walls alone are 126 million gold while all you're important elixir upgrades are about 20 million elixir in total. We are talking research, a dark barrack to level 4 and the new Dark Elixir drill. As a th8, we do not get to upgrade our camps and I did not consider the dragon upgrade because it becomes useless after th8 and the same thing applies to pekka.




Keep in mind only walls are 126 million gold vs the required 24million ( 28 if you do both barracks ) elixir. I'm not even going to calculate the gold required for defenses and clan castle because you can already see there is a huge imbalance in the gold/elixir required to max th8.




Before the next part, I have to clarify I only barch because the ROI ( Return on investment ) is the most efficient so far when you consider cook times vs elixir cost and ROI on gold/elixir vs elixir spent. Now, lets say you are fairly active and raid 10 times a day and you hit dead bases at 250,000 gold elixir each. Thats 2.5 million gold/elixir a day. You can do 5 level 8 walls, but if your lab is busy with say barbarians to level 5 who take 5 days and your DE drill is upgrading or maxed and so is your dark barrack, where does the elixir go ? No where, it sits there. Three days later of this same process and you have 15 walls at level 8 and are sitting at about 6.5 million elixir. ( some of the Elixir dissapears barching ). What will happen is you begin to overflow on elixir and it goes to waste. Once your barbarians free up and you start another upgrade, you will overflow in a day or two again.




This is when you become a beloved ATM to TH9s and fellow TH8s. If you insist on maxing TH8 the walls alone will make you lose a lot of elixir because there is nothing you can spend it on and this is why I believe rushing to be better. At TH9, you can put that elixir into walls and protect your elixir from being raided and doing level 9 walls. Not only that, but you can start working on your queen earlier and do your defenses in the meantime. You also have camps to upgrade at TH9 and 6 levels of Dark Elixir drills. This puts your elixir to much better use.




Heroes are the hardest grind of the game for some because DE can be a little hard to farm if you don't know the most efficient ways to do it. Another benefit of going to TH9 early is that DE is a lot easier to get due to how multiplayer matchmaking works. A dead TH9 with maxed DE drills provides 2700 ( thats without considering whats inside the DE storage ). As a TH9 you are more likely to find a dead TH9 than a TH8 and this your DE per raid can be a lot higher. I know this is not elixir related but, if you insist on maxing TH8 your golems, hogs, minions and valks require a lot of DE with prolongs even more the elixir wasted because you cant,as mentioned above, spend it on walls and DE farming at TH8 is extremely inneficient. I'm not saying it can't be done, but why handicap yourself ?

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Originally Posted by BaronScarpia

You didn't mention if you are a war player or not. For instance, I'm a farmer and this is my th8, upgrading to th9: - http://imgur.com/a/Er7Dv

If you aren't a war player, it's actually a good thing going to th9 ASAP to work on your queen (and pretty much make your upgrade schedule spin around her until th11). Just don't expect to defend loot at th9 - which could happen once in a blue moon if you max th8... In fact, if you are a farmer, your defenses might get you some "free shields" as a th10 if you pair them with inferno towers.

(Actually, sometimes, even if you are, other than for praticing some comps which, hopefully, you won't need to use again on war, th8 is a pretty useless th. My opinion doesn't really matter, tho, if your clan leader doesn't agree with me... Since you are saying things like "don't tell me to max my walls", you probably have an answer, already)

Also, it's worthy to note that, if you just don't want to get lvl 8 walls on th8, it's (very) ok - but if you have trouble farming them, maybe stepping up your farming is more important than going for th9 asap.

I.e. I'm not working on walls on my second accout, but I've sit to upgrade walls twice since I've started the second account. Had I not better things to do, I could easily get them all to 7 in one day and a nice lvl 8 core in one sunday afternoon, give or take.

Other than that, if you have max storages, lvl 5 goblins (that turn into lvl 6 goblins on the first week-ish of th9) and lvl 5 barch + 200 camp space, you can fix pretty much any rushed th9 if you have time to farm efficiently a little bit. Max CC for th also helps a lot.

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Iam a war player and iam the leader of a clan doing barch for farming iam active player but don't really using goblins my gobs are level 3 don't really see too much good things in it maybe i will do them if u think that helps a lot i do war farm don't really care about opting in or out to farm war doing both While prep day farming as much as i can when battle day about to start training my war army and using my attacks then farming again and repeat
Edit: saw the photo iam not that rushed going to max more my walls are better than air defs max one max wiz tower collectors aren't max i don't really care doing them slowly

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Originally Posted by SeahJieHui

I'd say max your th before you upgrade.
But you can play it however you want, rushed or maxed.

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Its my choice, but i want the good choice If i wanna rush to th11 right now i can but i wanna play it a good way

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Originally Posted by AndroidGamer5852

Its my choice, but i want the good choice If i wanna rush to th11 right now i can but i wanna play it a good way

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Read my post on the first page and you will know going to TH9 is the optimum choice. :)

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Originally Posted by SinOfDusk

The entire TH8 is a waste of time, everything you can gain as a TH8 in 2 weeks is weaker than anything you can gain in 2 weeks at TH9.

Remember, every day you spend in TH8 is a day away from a maxed AQ

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Agree with you

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Originally Posted by xQQx

Read my post on the first page and you will know going to TH9 is the optimum choice. :)

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Read it thanks kinda perfect words You helped me a lot thanks for your time writing all those things iam active now feel free to ask anything

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Originally Posted by AndroidGamer5852

Walls under construction(not going to max them Btw)...
Please don't tell me max walls i won't just level 7 should be maxed

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Not going to tell you to do anything, it's your base to grow how you please. Just a thinking point:
From level 8 you can use either elixir or gold to upgrade a wall. Why does this matter? Well because often people don't raid you for no loot if you're not in a place where they are trophy hunting. If my 2 th9 are sitting in gold 1 or crystal 3, even on nearly 100k de it's a good chance one of them won't even get attacked unshielded overnight, even with both x-bows down upgrading, because it has an obvious de protecting design and nothing else worth taking. So it's possible as an active farmer to hold onto quite a lot of de in gold/crystal league purely for having no gold or pink elix attracting anyone to attack you, by simply dumping it all into walls before going offline. So anyone with level 7 walls has not got that way of dumping the extra pink elix that might make it worthwhile to attack to take your de.

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Originally Posted by Tomville

Not going to tell you to do anything, it's your base to grow how you please. Just a thinking point:
From level 8 you can use either elixir or gold to upgrade a wall. Why does this matter? Well because often people don't raid you for no loot if you're not in a place where they are trophy hunting. If my 2 th9 are sitting in gold 1 or crystal 3, even on nearly 100k de it's a good chance one of them won't even get attacked unshielded overnight, even with both x-bows down upgrading, because it has an obvious de protecting design and nothing else worth taking. So it's possible as an active farmer to hold onto quite a lot of de in gold/crystal league purely for having no gold or pink elix attracting anyone to attack you, by simply dumping it all into walls before going offline. So anyone with level 7 walls has not got that way of dumping the extra pink elix that might make it worthwhile to attack to take your de.

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Well i don't really care about getting raided to lose resources i don't know why but i don't lose as much as i farm a day iam playing the game like all the day long so i don't see problems

Upgrade to TH9 then forget about war! For 5 months and raid, raid and raid!

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Originally Posted by Makemewise

Upgrade to TH9 then forget about war! For 5 months and raid, raid and raid!

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Nah iam active a lot i raid a lot i do war In prep day i farm when battle about to start I train my war army and use attacks then farm and farm and repeat my problem is walls And stuff iam going to have high offenses

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Originally Posted by AndroidGamer5852

Well i don't really care about getting raided to lose resources i don't know why but i don't lose as much as i farm a day iam playing the game like all the day long so i don't see problems

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Sorry, I must have been confused. I thought you'd said you were having trouble with de on Barch? I'm a very active farmer so it's quickly won back if lost, I just prefer not to lose it 3k or so at a time if I can, to add to the new de farmed each day to build king and queen.

Mine are now 15/23 with only 3 th9 max level defences (a tesla and 2 wiz towers) so far (but max on both my xbows also in 2 days). Still got some th8 archer towers, mortars and air defences. I don't watch war weight as I'm the little fry down the bottom of a th11 heavy war lineup, so my job is to defend as well as I can against bigger ones (so I have prioritised tesla, xbow, wiz tower) then hit as strong as I can, mostly on bigger ones (so prioritised valk, laloon, golem). I guess what that shows is what is best for war build-wise is relative to what clan lineup you are a part of. Next to 10-11 or so th11 in a 15v15 or 20v20 my xbows aren't a factor total weigh wise, and I would only hurt us for giving away stars easier.

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Originally Posted by AndroidGamer5852

Nah iam active a lot i raid a lot i do war In prep day i farm when battle about to start I train my war army and use attacks then farm and farm and repeat my problem is walls And stuff iam going to have high offenses

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If you war seriously then you shouldn't be considering upgrading with level 1 dark troops, you should be maxing them (with the possible exception of minions) first. Whilst they are upgrading you can work on your BK, point defence and walls.

Edit: I would also recommend maxing poison and eq at TH8 - you will have lots of other demands for DE at TH9.

If your wallbreakers/loons/wizards/healers/elixir spells aren't maxed you should also do those as a war player.

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Originally Posted by Aspex

If you war seriously then you shouldn't be considering upgrading with level 1 dark troops, you should be maxing them (with the possible exception of minions) first. Whilst they are upgrading you can work on your BK, point defence and walls.

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Gonna max bk and maybe level 2 hogs atleast don't really use it tho but looks ugly at level 1 minions should be maxed i guess going to use loons lava hound minions in th9 so i should focus on those
Edit: maxed wall breakers wiz loons are next healers should be maxed going to do some queen walk as th9 so i will do them
Will do poison seems cheap but don't really see big difference for eq Level 1 4 of them can still break any level walls i don't use them for other buildings

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Originally Posted by Aspex

If you war seriously then you shouldn't be considering upgrading with level 1 dark troops, you should be maxing them (with the possible exception of minions) first. Whilst they are upgrading you can work on your BK, point defence and walls.

Edit: I would also recommend maxing poison and eq at TH8 - you will have lots of other demands for DE at TH9.

If your wallbreakers/loons/wizards/healers/elixir spells aren't maxed you should also do those as a war player.

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Just have problem in de farming any tips?barch can loot me elixer gold but de? Any good things?

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Originally Posted by Tomville

Sorry, I must have been confused. I thought you'd said you were having trouble with de on Barch? I'm a very active farmer so it's quickly won back if lost, I just prefer not to lose it 3k or so at a time if I can, to add to the new de farmed each day to build king and queen.

Mine are now 15/23 with only 3 th9 max level defences (a tesla and 2 wiz towers) so far (but max on both my xbows also in 2 days). Still got some th8 archer towers, mortars and air defences. I don't watch war weight as I'm the little fry down the bottom of a th11 heavy war lineup, so my job is to defend as well as I can against bigger ones (so I have prioritised tesla, xbow, wiz tower) then hit as strong as I can, mostly on bigger ones (so prioritised valk, laloon, golem). I guess what that shows is what is best for war build-wise is relative to what clan lineup you are a part of. Next to 10-11 or so th11 in a 15v15 or 20v20 my xbows aren't a factor total weigh wise, and I would only hurt us for giving away stars easier.

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Ye de problem But i meant i don't care about elixer i overflow easily but de kinda problem

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Originally Posted by AndroidGamer5852

Gonna max bk and maybe level 2 hogs atleast don't really use it tho but looks ugly at level 1 minions should be maxed i guess going to use loons lava hound minions in th9 so i should focus on those

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Sounds like a plan, but be aware that many know air is the dominant meta atm, so have strong anti air th9 war bases, so it's best to quickly have another choice of army on top of laloon for wars, depending on what base you are attacking, if you don't have the luxury of picking which one of wide range of targets best suits your strength. Valks are a go-to th9 standby for that base where air is just not going to reliably 3 star, not to mention HGHB and GoVaHo. All those rely on de troop upgrades, so having good de loot flow is something that wants sorting out before heading up, as well as ensuring valk, hog, golem are max at th8 (mine were, the upgrades I skipped were pekka and loon, caught up loon to max later, my pekka still tiny).

My best de farming tip is take a heavy enough army to break into core, ideally one that uses no de, or only a poison spell maybe. Barch is great for gold and elix, but the real de is in the core storage, and sometimes when lucky full drills.

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Originally Posted by Tomville

Sounds like a plan, but be aware that many know air is the dominant meta atm, so have strong anti air th9 war bases, so it's best to quickly have another choice of army on top of laloon for wars, depending on what base you are attacking, if you don't have the luxury of picking which one of wide range of targets best suits your strength. Valks are a go-to th9 standby for that base where air is just not going to reliably 3 star, not to mention HGHB and GoVaHo. All those rely on de troop upgrades, so having good de loot flow is something that wants sorting out before heading up, as well as ensuring valk, hog, golem are max at th8 (mine were, the upgrades I skipped were pekka and loon, caught up loon to max later, my pekka still tiny).

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Would like to max them if possible but having de farming troubles maybe going to use Some giants wiz quad quakes for bases with full de storage

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Originally Posted by AndroidGamer5852

Would like to max them if possible but having de farming troubles maybe going to use Some giants wiz quad quakes for bases with full de storage

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If elix is overflowing, then you may as well spend it on a full-on war mass dragon with zapquake army, then next for the richest de target you can find.

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Originally Posted by AndroidGamer5852

Gonna max bk and maybe level 2 hogs atleast don't really use it tho but looks ugly at level 1 minions should be maxed i guess going to use loons lava hound minions in th9 so i should focus on those
Edit: maxed wall breakers wiz loons are next healers should be maxed going to do some queen walk as th9 so i will do them
Will do poison seems cheap but don't really see big difference for eq Level 1 4 of them can still break any level walls i don't use them for other buildings

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Originally Posted by AndroidGamer5852

Just have problem in de farming any tips?barch can loot me elixer gold but de? Any good things?

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Gob knife works well for DE, as do dragons if you're elixir-rich.

WRT eq, if you're planning on laloon sometimes you'll want to zapquake an AD so the higher the eq the better.

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Originally Posted by Tomville

If elix is overflowing, then you may as well spend it on a full-on war mass dragon with zapquake army, then next for the richest de target you can find.

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Originally Posted by Aspex

Gob knife works well for DE, as do dragons if you're elixir-rich.

WRT eq, if you're planning on laloon sometimes you'll want to zapquake an As so the higher the eq the better.

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Yup thanks guys for the help will try my best thanks for your time Have a good day

If you war, no
If you don't war, what are you waiting for?!?!

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Originally Posted by Tomville

Not going to tell you to do anything, it's your base to grow how you please. Just a thinking point:
From level 8 you can use either elixir or gold to upgrade a wall. Why does this matter? Well because often people don't raid you for no loot if you're not in a place where they are trophy hunting. If my 2 th9 are sitting in gold 1 or crystal 3, even on nearly 100k de it's a good chance one of them won't even get attacked unshielded overnight, even with both x-bows down upgrading, because it has an obvious de protecting design and nothing else worth taking. So it's possible as an active farmer to hold onto quite a lot of de in gold/crystal league purely for having no gold or pink elix attracting anyone to attack you, by simply dumping it all into walls before going offline. So anyone with level 7 walls has not got that way of dumping the extra pink elix that might make it worthwhile to attack to take your de.

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Upgrade 1 wall with gold, 500k. After that you can dump 1mil+2mil elixir into that same wall. Who says you need to max all lvl8 walls before starting lvl9 walls?

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Originally Posted by SinOfDusk

Upgrade 1 wall with gold, 500k. After that you can dump 1mil+2mil elixir into that same wall. Who says you need to max all lvl8 walls before starting lvl9 walls?

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Yeah Right don't feel to waste time on walls

Its your account, your choice! I personally like to max out every TH level but that's just me.

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Originally Posted by SuperStormTrooper

Its your account, your choice! I personally like to max out every TH level but that's just me.

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I agree, each person should do what makes them most happy playing the game. Me, I like to make good progress at each town hall level but I don't hold myself to 100% maxing. I can live with traps 1 level lower if it means I can upgrade my TH and upgrade more important items. Or if I start to waste resources, lab or builder time, then I have historically gone forward. So far no regrets, at TH9.

Unless someone is enjoying a particular town hall level I would move on as soon as something is getting wasted by staying put. The only exception being if a base is accidentally lopsided by prioritizing 1 area too much, then I would spend at least a little time catching up any imbalance. Once at about TH9 you'll find there is a lot to do and minor imbalances can be corrected quite easily.

Okay i decieded what to do going to upgrade to th9 been A few weeks from my post got better now but still not max will go th9 but i won't place new defenses specially xbows Will be working to max th8 def , queen and traps i think its a great choice ;) from th9 maybe will max a lot of stuff before th10

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Originally Posted by AndroidGamer5852

Okay i decieded what to do going to upgrade to th9 been A few weeks from my post got better now but still not max will go th9 but i won't place new defenses specially xbows Will be working to max th8 def , queen and traps i think its a great choice ;) from th9 maybe will max a lot of stuff before th10

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