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March 10th, 2017
Bestajunior

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Originally Posted by ilovehayday

I've been taking notes and getting a good sense of the opinions made here. There's been excellent points made and some unexpected twists and turns as well. All of it is important and all of it helps me paint a picture of what you all want. When the time comes, your feedback will be passed on.

If you want to pm me, you can do that as well.

The above is so not coming out in words how it is in my head because I can't find the right words right now and I really mean this from my heart. Truly. I want to be here for you, help you and be your voice.

Thanks ilovehayday. You can see how up,in arms we are. You said it just fine. Thanks for posting.
March 10th, 2017
CottonTail

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Originally Posted by LetTheMusicPlay

And c'mon, don't drag CottonTail into this.... ::exasperation:: XD

Haha, this is one of the very rare occasions in my life where I'm happy to be dragged into something (just not by the tail, please). :D

But seeing this has come up, I also agree with the questions about neutrals - what is the point in giving members with fewer than 50 posts voting power at all if it shows as a neutral? I've received one - it has since dropped off my reputation tab, but from memory there was no comment attached, so I assume it was a positive (negatives have to have a comment, right?), but it seems an exercise in futility both for the voters and the recipients. Is it a technical thing?

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Originally Posted by GladeMaid

LTMP, you are right when you say this forum is "allegedly" nice. It isn't really. It's a highly censored forum that has been shaped over the years by certain people asserting opinions about how people should play, and behave, and by mods who have been quick to judge some, yet let others get away with quite toxic posts.

I don't necessarily agree that the forum is highly censored, but I do agree that - in the past - some oppressive bundles of narcissism were allowed to trample and bully newer forumers without any visible check on their toxicity. I wonder if we're talking about the same people though. Probably not. :smirk:XD

As for niceness, now that I think of it, perhaps that's a difficult, amorphous quality to strive for. Here are some of the attributes that I hope for and value when it comes to the forum: fairness, decency, kindness, humor, empathy, openness, tolerance, respect.

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Originally Posted by pitchfork

D'oh! I see it now. Facepalm. Thank you, brainypants. :)

I wish! We were informed about the reputation tab in this thread. I couldn't find it even after multiple visits to my profile page and had to post again asking "Where!? where? :confused:"

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Originally Posted by pitchfork

Do not believe everything you read.

I can be so gullible at times. It's my seventeenth most persistent flaw. :smirk:

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Originally Posted by ilovehayday

I've been taking notes and getting a good sense of the opinions made here. There's been excellent points made and some unexpected twists and turns as well. All of it is important and all of it helps me paint a picture of what you all want. When the time comes, your feedback will be passed on.

If you want to pm me, you can do that as well.

The above is so not coming out in words how it is in my head because I can't find the right words right now and I really mean this from my heart. Truly. I want to be here for you, help you and be your voice.

You are the best! And such a lovely person. I've already posted my views on the rep system in this thread but they're scattered, here are my thoughts in table format!

WHY?

Positive Rep Points - keep but make anonymous Before I knew that we could identify who upvoted us, it was lovely not knowing. I felt a warm glow from and toward the entire forum. It could've been anyone who sent that private compliment, and it made me feel even more positive vibes toward everyone in the forum.

Also I'd prefer that forumers I upvote not know it's me. It's meant to be a purely positive gesture. I don't want to create a possible sense of obligation that they have to upvote me in return. (They absolutely don't.)

Negative Rep Points - disable/eliminate Punishment is not as effective as positive reinforcement. It's hurtful and breeds aggression.

If negative rep points are kept, then please do not make them anonymous. Right now, I think there's a curb on downvoting, because people are afraid to be outted as downvoters. Sometimes, fear is good. Fear can keep a forum free of undercover drama trolls. If people really feel the need to downvote, then they should be willing to put their forum name behind it.

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Originally Posted by CottonTail

Haha, this is one of the very rare occasions in my life where I'm happy to be dragged into something (just not by the tail, please). :D

Glad to hear it! :D Didn't mean to speak for you, CottonTail. :)

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Originally Posted by CottonTail

But seeing this has come up, I also agree with the questions about neutrals - what is the point in giving members with fewer than 50 posts voting power at all if it shows as a neutral? I've received one - it has since dropped off my reputation tab, but from memory there was no comment attached, so I assume it was a positive (negatives have to have a comment, right?), but it seems an exercise in futility both for the voters and the recipients. Is it a technical thing?

People might create alt accounts just to upvote themselves or their friends. Maybe that's just one of many misuses that a posting-minimum might restrain. :confused:

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Originally Posted by LetTheMusicPlay

You are the best! And such a lovely person. I've already posted my views on the rep system in this thread but they're scattered, here are my thoughts in table format!

WHY?

Positive Rep Points - keep but make anonymous Before I knew that we could identify who upvoted us, it was lovely not knowing. I felt a warm glow from and toward the entire forum. It could've been anyone who sent that private compliment, and it made me feel even more positive vibes toward everyone in the forum.

Also I'd prefer that forumers I upvote not know it's me. It's meant to be a purely positive gesture. I don't want to create a possible sense of obligation that they have to upvote me in return. (They absolutely don't.)

Negative Rep Points - disable/eliminate Punishment is not as effective as positive reinforcement. It's hurtful and breeds aggression.

If negative rep points are kept, then please do not make them anonymous. Right now, I think there's a curb on downvoting, because people are afraid to be outted as downvoters. Sometimes, fear is good. Fear can keep a forum free of undercover drama trolls. If people really feel the need to downvote, then they should be willing to put their forum name behind it.

You have ventured into charted territory, I see...

March 11th, 2017
d2l5p2

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Originally Posted by ilovehayday

I've been taking notes and getting a good sense of the opinions made here. There's been excellent points made and some unexpected twists and turns as well. All of it is important and all of it helps me paint a picture of what you all want. When the time comes, your feedback will be passed on.

If you want to pm me, you can do that as well.

The above is so not coming out in words how it is in my head because I can't find the right words right now and I really mean this from my heart. Truly. I want to be here for you, help you and be your voice.

Thank you!
March 11th, 2017
LetTheMusicPlay

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Originally Posted by Wussypuss

You have ventured into charted territory, I see...

You ever love something so much that it hurts, so you almost hate it for making you love it so much, taking you right back to loving it even more all over again?

This is what I feel about this post.

Still laughing as I type... XD
March 11th, 2017
Gymgirl4a

I also have couple of neutrals and wonder about the point?🤔🤔
ILHD your posts are always helpful and caring so thank you for posting here.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ilovehayday

I've been taking notes and getting a good sense of the opinions made here. There's been excellent points made and some unexpected twists and turns as well. All of it is important and all of it helps me paint a picture of what you all want. When the time comes, your feedback will be passed on.

If you want to pm me, you can do that as well.

The above is so not coming out in words how it is in my head because I can't find the right words right now and I really mean this from my heart. Truly. I want to be here for you, help you and be your voice.

I think you found the right words because you spoke from your heart. Since I last posted in this thread a few days ago, I'm shell-shocked by the friendly fire which has transpired in the past 48 hours. And yes, while reading the posts, I'm wearing a helmet like the one in my avatar.

I think it's safe to emerge from my foxhole for now. :)

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Originally Posted by LetTheMusicPlay

...You are the best! And such a lovely person. I've already posted my views on the rep system in this thread but they're scattered, here are my thoughts in table format!

WHY?

Positive Rep Points - keep but make anonymous Before I knew that we could identify who upvoted us, it was lovely not knowing. I felt a warm glow from and toward the entire forum. It could've been anyone who sent that private compliment, and it made me feel even more positive vibes toward everyone in the forum.

Also I'd prefer that forumers I upvote not know it's me. It's meant to be a purely positive gesture. I don't want to create a possible sense of obligation that they have to upvote me in return. (They absolutely don't.)

Negative Rep Points - disable/eliminate Punishment is not as effective as positive reinforcement. It's hurtful and breeds aggression.

If negative rep points are kept, then please do not make them anonymous. Right now, I think there's a curb on downvoting, because people are afraid to be outted as downvoters. Sometimes, fear is good. Fear can keep a forum free of undercover drama trolls. If people really feel the need to downvote, then they should be willing to put their forum name behind it.

Indeed, if downvoting is retained for the FRS, I suggest the recipients of negative comments be allowed to see the identities of those who left them because it's the only check against those of us who need to exercise self-restraint. If we post negative comments, we should've the conviction to stand behind them instead of sending them anonymously, IMO.

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Originally Posted by Gymgirl4a

I also have couple of neutrals and wonder about the point?

Neutrals could mean someone upvoted or downvoted your posts. Since they wrote less than 50 posts in the forums, they won't be able to increase or decrease your reputation points. You know it's an upvote because they don't need to leave a comment. However, when you see comments, then it's a downvote because leaving comments is mandatory after clicking the Disapproval Button.

March 11th, 2017
Gymgirl4a

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Originally Posted by LynnK2015

I think you found the right words because you spoke from your heart. Since I last posted in this thread a few days ago, I'm shell-shocked by the friendly fire which has transpired in the past 48 hours. And yes, while reading the posts, I'm wearing a helmet like the one in my avatar.

I think it's safe to emerge from my foxhole for now. :)
LOL 😄

Indeed, if downvoting is retained for the FRS, I suggest the recipients of negative comments be allowed to see the identities of those who left them because it's the only check against those of us who need to exercise self-restraint. If we post negative comments, we should've the conviction to stand behind them instead of sending them anonymously, IMO.

👍🏻

Neutrals could mean someone upvoted or downvoted your posts. Since they wrote less than 50 posts in the forums, they won't be able to increase or decrease your reputation points. You know it's an upvote because they don't need to leave a comment. However, when you see comments, then it's a downvote because leaving comments is mandatory after clicking the Disapproval Button.

thanks Lynn😀
March 11th, 2017
MooiPlaas

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Originally Posted by LynnK2015

I think you found the right words because you spoke from your heart. Since I last posted in this thread a few days ago, I'm shell-shocked by the friendly fire which has transpired in the past 48 hours. And yes, while reading the posts, I'm wearing a helmet like the one in my avatar.

I think it's safe to emerge from my foxhole for now. :)

Indeed, if downvoting is retained for the FRS, I suggest the recipients of negative comments be allowed to see the identities of those who left them because it's the only check against those of us who need to exercise self-restraint. If we post negative comments, we should've the conviction to stand behind them instead of sending them anonymously, IMO.

Neutrals could mean someone upvoted or downvoted your posts. Since they wrote less than 50 posts in the forums, they won't be able to increase or decrease your reputation points. You know it's an upvote because they don't need to leave a comment. However, when you see comments, then it's a downvote because leaving comments is mandatory after clicking the Disapproval Button.

This is just so misleading! Comments are not an indicator that the votes are anti. Most up votes, that I have seen, add a comment.

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	WHY?
Positive Rep Points - keep but make anonymous	Before I knew that we could identify who upvoted us, it was lovely not knowing. I felt a warm glow from and toward the entire forum. It could've been anyone who sent that private compliment, and it made me feel even more positive vibes toward everyone in the forum. Also I'd prefer that forumers I upvote not know it's me. It's meant to be a purely positive gesture. I don't want to create a possible sense of obligation that they have to upvote me in return. (They absolutely don't.)
Negative Rep Points - disable/eliminate	Punishment is not as effective as positive reinforcement. It's hurtful and breeds aggression.
If negative rep points are kept, then please do not make them anonymous.	Right now, I think there's a curb on downvoting, because people are afraid to be outted as downvoters. Sometimes, fear is good. Fear can keep a forum free of undercover drama trolls. If people really feel the need to downvote, then they should be willing to put their forum name behind it.