Come celebrate with us!

The mighty martians clocking in at 300 winstreak.what a journey with u guys thanks a lot.How we did it?pure skill!
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Streak wouldn't have been possible without the skill in attacks and the brains in design, you can't have one without the other :thumbsup:

Absolutely the finest clan, cheers Martians!!!!!


SC.- Hall of fame needs an update :heart:

Congratulations! Quite and impressive feat

Hmm need to scroll a long time down to reply...
I think it requires more than just skill...it requires understanding how match making works, great organization, never give up attitude, and of course a bit of luck. This record will not be beaten for a while since the next closest highest win streak is about 200, I think.

Troll. Nothing impressive about beating casual clans with your lineup.

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Troll. Nothing impressive about beating casual clans with your lineup.

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Mostly +1. There are many heavy clans out there that have more talent and are unable to sport a hefty win streak due to a variety of factors. It is important to qualify achievements and college teams don't win awards for beating up on high school teams in sports, I'm not sure why this should be different for gaming.

Disagreement with one bit: knowledge of game to consistently pull in these clans and consistently outperform does have merit IF done solely through fair play.

Anyway, *congratulations* are in order (with the appropriate asterisks)

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Troll. Nothing impressive about beating casual clans with your lineup.

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Your line up is not very different than ours. In addition, contrary to you, we don't have lopsided bases, yet you can barely get a 10 wins streak. Lets talk again when you can achieve 10 wins streak again ...

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Mostly +1. There are many heavy clans out there that have more talent and are unable to sport a hefty win streak due to a variety of factors. It is important to qualify achievements and college teams don't win awards for beating up on high school teams in sports, I'm not sure why this should be different for gaming.

Disagreement with one bit: knowledge of game to consistently pull in these clans and consistently outperform does have merit IF done solely through fair play.

Anyway, *congratulations* are in order (with he appropriate asterisks)

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Please don't throw around stupid modding rumors and accusations when you obviously know little about our clan.

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Please don't throw around stupid modding rumors and accusations when you obviously know little about our clan.

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I have not accused your clan of modding, I simply added a qualifier to achievements. In fact, I added a few qualifiers that most of the community will agree with. If certain qualifiers do not apply to your clan, feel free to ignore them. :)

Again, *congratulations*. 200+ consecutive wins is an impressive feat.

Whoa! I see a draw in there! Other than that, only one decent war on the page. Was that the one where one of your clansmen came here griping about an unfair matchup?

At any rate, congratulations on having the fortitude to slog through tedious, mundane ridiculousness. Kudos for implementing a bit of skill and originality in your bases. As much as I loathe engineering at least your method requires a little bit of skill compared to the United PH variety of low level junk base fillers.

Somewhere in there you may find a compliment but then again maybe not. :)

Congrats, keep it up boys.

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Streak wouldn't have been possible without the skill in attacks and the brains in design, you can't have one without the other :thumbsup:

Absolutely the finest clan, cheers Martians!!!!!


SC.- Hall of fame needs an update :heart:

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♥♥♥♥ finest clan.
I just went trough their first 17 war log pics, NONE of the opponents came even close, I mean 5 star gap. Many with huge star difference wins, meaning their opponents gave up. All this is made possible by hyper engineered bases in combination with roster engineering.
To call such cheap shots the finest clan is a joke.
I don't care if they war the way they do, but to take pride for those easy wins is a great illusion.

If u'd want that title to have a meaning, sign up for cwl and let's see what skill u guys have op.

Im sorry but i have seen this clans roster and looked at ALL the bases. Yes you guys are extremely skilled sandbaggers but that is were the "skill" stops. Pls dont pretend that many of those wars or possibly any were challenging or required extreme attacking skill. Kudos for being without doubt the best at MM manipulation, your clan without doubt has it down pat. But to come hear seaking validation and praise for feeding on those weaker than you is a joke. Be honest with what you do and perhaps people will be truley impressed, or keep pretending your something your not and accept your due criticism.

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Whoa! I see a draw in there! Other than that, only one decent war on the page. Was that the one where one of your clansmen came here griping about an unfair matchup?

At any rate, congratulations on having the fortitude to slog through tedious, mundane ridiculousness. Kudos for implementing a bit of skill and originality in your bases. As much as I loathe engineering at least your method requires a little bit of skill compared to the United PH variety of low level junk base fillers.

Somewhere in there you may find a compliment but then again maybe not. :)

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Lol, one decent war? You base it on how close the score is? We dominate our opponents on both defense and offense, that is why there is a huge stars spread. Sure, some did give up though. And yeah there were a few wars where we got mismatch disadvantage as well.

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Lol, one decent war? You base it on how close the score is? We dominate our opponents on both defense and offense, that is why there is a huge stars spread. Sure, some did give up though. And yeah there were a few wars where we got mismatch disadvantage as well.

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Yo, your bases don't have defenses. What world do you live in?

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Yo, your bases don't have defenses. What world do you live in?

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Have you looked at their bases at all? XD

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........We dominate our opponents on both defense and offense, that is why there is a huge stars spread. Sure, some did give up though...........

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The average score differential was...? What?.....40-50 stars?

The denial here is mind-blowing.

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We dominate our opponents on both defense and offense

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IMO, that is why your 300+ win streak carries no merit. You dominate the match maker. I will give you guys props for figuring it out. You're one of the few clans that figured it out. The rest are just copying what's been done.

Congratulations on such a high streak. Any chance I could join and watch a war ? I've been always interested in seeing some of your members attack like Thrash Girl.

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IMO, that is why your 300+ win streak carries no merit. You dominate the match maker. I will give you guys props for figuring it out. You're one of the few clans that figured it out. The rest are just copying what's been done.

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Others have figured it out, but decided these matchups do not provide adequate incentive to play this game... Instead, most clans choose to build heavy rosters over time and ramp up the level of competition.

Much to say here, but its mostly common sense. Read between the lines. :)

CHEERS, very beautiful, im glad that we have some really competitive clans out here

Congrats to the best in the business. Lot of smart competition trying to put up the longest win streak, it means something to be on top no matter what the haters say. Half of them are just jealous that their engineering attempts didn't work out anyway.

Wow some envy is being projected out here, I chose to celebrate with OP :D

For the ones criticizing: It is not as simple as you think it is, the proof is that no other clan has been able to do it even though they try to copy calling themselves "engineers".

Sure! Clans can try and engineer with their minimax and .5's and defenseless and roster and whatnot but eventually it all comes down to skill when matchmaking chooses the clan than can mess with your streak.

And OP's clan has had tough matches just like any other and came victorious. How? With skill! Good attacking and good base design.
Don't believe me? There was a post not long ago about them facing such a bad match that even their leader complained here in forums about terrible matching, of course everyone jumped on him and said well tough luck haha...they still won GG

Great job guys! That is quite the impressive feat. You guys have definately cracked the MM. There are many other heabily engineered clans that cant even get close to that.

Definately takes skill + good knowledge of the MM to get this.

Any chance you can post some of your members attacks? I very much would like to see Trash Girl attack with just hounds and minions. SOmeone hre was complaining about her tripling 2 good th9s.

If thats true, thats actually pretty impressive. Tripling two well developed th9s with just 3 spells, no de spells, and just hounds and minions (no king L13 queen and a warden as well).

I dont even think these trash-talkers can do that. If they can, i challenge them to show me how

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Wow some envy is being projected out here, I chose to celebrate with OP :D

For the ones criticizing: It is not as simple as you think it is, the proof is that no other clan has been able to do it even though they try to copy calling themselves "engineers".

Sure! Clans can try and engineer with their minimax and .5's and defenseless and roster and whatnot but eventually it all comes down to skill when matchmaking chooses the clan than can mess with your streak.

And OP's clan has had tough matches just like any other and came victorious. How? With skill! Good attacking and good base design.
Don't believe me? There was a post not long ago about them facing such a bad match that even their leader complained here in forums about terrible matching, of course everyone jumped on him and said well tough luck haha...they still won GG

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Are you seriously claiming that the roster they have will draw challenging matches? I will admit they may get one now and then but c'mon, alot have seen this clan and its without doubt a heavy dose of sandbagging. Yes they do it better than the rest and may even have some good attackers, but no way does anyone believe that they draw opponents of equal attacking power. Its just not how the MM works with clans like that, especially pre October update. If you wanna claim they are the best at this method of war few will argue it but claims of hard fought tough wars on a regular bases are bogus, anyone even remotely familiar with war MM just knows this as facts. To call people jealous who point out these falicies is about as laughable as the claims of hard wars and is a very weak claim. Ill say again, the streak is without a doubt impressive but it is what it is and thats masterfull sandbagging.

People are jealous lol.

Delusional to say otherwise. Looking through some people here, a guy with an engineered clan was calling them "unskilled" and afraid of competition... yet he strives to do exactly what they do

Mabey they are all super skilled elite attackers but if so why sandbag so much, something with that claim just doesnt add up. Wonder if they would ever let anyone in the clan to verify these claims of tough matches. I have visited the clan mathmatica tho who also have a similar war record minus the super long streak and i can verify very few of the matches are even close to even and most just give up, kinda like hear. Patiently waiting to gladly eat my words and apologize if i can be proven wrong.

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Mabey they are all super skilled elite attackers but if so why sandbag so much, something with that claim just doesnt add up. Wonder if they would ever let anyone in the clan to verify these claims of tough matches. I have visited the clan mathmatica tho who also have a similar war record minus the super long streak and i can verify very few of the matches are even close to even and most just give up, kinda like hear. Patiently waiting to gladly eat my words and apologize if i can be proven wrong.

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Even if you are super skilled there is no way to get a really big streak.

That is a fact.

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... but no way does anyone believe that they draw opponents of equal attacking power. Its just not how the MM works with clans like that...

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People even remotely familiar with war MM KNOW they draw opponents with equal power.

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Originally Posted by Tykimeister

Yo, your bases don't have defenses. What world do you live in?

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Lol, it is comments like this that shows you know little about us and about real engineering. Defenseless base is one of the dumbest way to engineer a clan. Please don't lump us in that category. That being said, we would have no shame to have defenseless bases if we feel there is any advantage in it.

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Lol, it is comments like this that shows you know little about us and about real engineering. Defenseless base is one of the dumbest way to engineer a clan. Please don't lump us in that category. That being said, we would have no shame to have defenseless bases if we feel there is any advantage in it.

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Any chance to join and see the replays?

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Originally Posted by ReplicantRachel

People even remotely familiar with war MM KNOW they draw opponents with equal power.

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more or less. 6M definately has the advantage most wars but i feel like the opponents have a good chance to win too if they knew how to attack.

I can say this safely. 6M draws in less experienced clans. They may or may not have a good chance of winning, but they definately are below average

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Originally Posted by CheckMate99

Lol, one decent war? You base it on how close the score is? We dominate our opponents on both defense and offense, that is why there is a huge stars spread. Sure, some did give up though. And yeah there were a few wars where we got mismatch disadvantage as well.

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It's rough indicator of the competitiveness of the war, yes. And thank you for proving my point. You have dominated the MM. You ought not expect everyone to marvel at that. Dip attacks are not worthy of marvel. There may have been some respectable attacks executed by the martians, but by and large MM manipulation gets credit for the win streak but I know you don't need me to explain that to you lol

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Lol, it is comments like this that shows you know little about us and about real engineering. Defenseless base is one of the dumbest way to engineer a clan. Please don't lump us in that category. That being said, we would have no shame to have defenseless bases if we feel there is any advantage in it.

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Defenceless do give advantage, you in a round about way admit you get more advantage with what is obviously a superior way to engineer. Thank you for atleast being honest with how this streak was obtained, even if it wasnt intentional. Still is impressive that even sandbaggers can win so consistent, just cant be compared to those who war without MM manipulation and may get a streak of 20 or 30 or mabey higher, not sure what the longest streak is for non-engineered. You guys are the best at the game you play but you play a diffrent game than most so just cant agree your the greatest clan.

i think 60+ for a non engineered clan with th10/11s included is about as impressive as this.

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i think 60+ for a non engineered clan with th10/11s included is about as impressive as this.

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Best my clan got is 28 with TH9+ and i think we are good, 60+ would be amazing. Our 28 streak did have a large batch of farm war clans, best we have done with real fights is high teens before we dropped the ball.

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You guys are the best at the game you play but you play a diffrent game than most so just cant agree your the greatest clan.

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The rhl ranking, which is run by one of the Martians, ranks a clan called Let It Go as the best. But I think their data comes from regular matches so CWL clans wouldn't be ranked.
https://cocp.it/tops/rhl

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more or less. 6M definately has the advantage most wars but i feel like the opponents have a good chance to win too if they knew how to attack.

I can say this safely. 6M draws in less experienced clans. They may or may not have a good chance of winning, but they definately are below average

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Pfffff

It is comments like yours that people come and throw tantrums about GM's clan...

Please don't assume things.

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The rhl ranking, which is run by one of the Martians, ranks a clan called Let It Go as the best. But I think their data comes from regular matches so CWL clans wouldn't be ranked.
https://cocp.it/tops/rhl

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Yes I agree with your statement :)

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Pfffff

It is comments like yours that people come and throw tantrums about GM's clan...

Please don't assume things.

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Can we expect any real responses based in facts from you or 1 liners that prove nothing but the weakness of your stance. Whats left for us to do but assume based on past experiences? Otherwise known as educated guesses. Its not like we are given any facts to work with. The community has plenty of experience to make very informed assumptions on what these matches would look like yet hear you are insisting its not done with considerable advantage. It would seem only you are either being dishonest or the one assuming. If anything its false claims like yours that give said clans a bad wrap.

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Can we expect any real responses based in facts from you or 1 liners that prove nothing but the weakness of your stance. Whats left for us to do but assume based on past experiences? Otherwise known as educated guesses. Its not like we are given any facts to work with. The community has plenty of experience to make very informed assumptions on what these matches would look like yet hear you are insisting its not done with considerable advantage. It would seem only you are either being dishonest or the one assuming. If anything its false claims like yours that give said clans a bad wrap.

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I don't know what you mean by real response, I try to give the best response I can but when I try to help people jump on me so I decided to quit that already.

The past experiences you talk about are with those clans that try to engineer and don't have a solid streak either.
Have you ever matched with OP's clan?

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I don't know what you mean by real response, I try to give the best response I can but when I try to help people jump on me so I decided to quit that already.

The past experiences you talk about are with those clans that try to engineer and don't have a solid streak either.
Have you ever matched with OP's clan?

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I have not, but a clanmate has a mini in mathmatica, admittedly not identical but similar enough that i have a decent idea of what these wars look like. Plus why would they engineer if not for advantage? Its just common knowledge thats why its done. Im not even hear to take issue with the way they play just the claim that the streak was obtained with hard fought fair wars. Am i to believe the most successful engineers are the only ones not getting a advantage? And i could be mistaken but have you not been in that clan? I feel like i have seen your forum name in the martians. Could be wrong as im not positive just sounds familiar.

People see 6M and know what they do, know its just a scam, manipulating this game just to win easy wars month after month. Showing the war log just shows that these assumptions are right. If they fought any real opponent in the last 300 wars, there would be a couple wars where there was a tie but won on %, a win by stars but less % than opponent, a win by 1 or 2 stars, etc. This is all a joke.

Oh my god...what a streak. Gongrats :)

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I have not, but a clanmate has a mini in mathmatica, admittedly not identical but similar enough that i have a decent idea of what these wars look like. Plus why would they engineer if not for advantage? Its just common knowledge thats why its done. Im not even hear to take issue with the way they play just the claim that the streak was obtained with hard fought fair wars. Am i to believe the most successful engineers are the only ones not getting a advantage? And i could be mistaken but have you not been in that clan? I feel like i have seen your forum name in the martians. Could be wrong as im not positive just sounds familiar.

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Well I never said all their wars are hard fought, I said some of them are and they could have break the streak but it came down to skill for the martians to win.

Sometimes you win sometimes you lose, the martians happen to win 300 in a row that's all :)

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Pfffff

It is comments like yours that people come and throw tantrums about GM's clan...

Please don't assume things.

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I love 6M lol.

But please you guys do not go against experienced clans. You draw casuals most of the time. Whether or not they have a good chance of winning is unknown to me. That being said i would really love to see some of the bases in the clan attack. Any chance we can see what bases trash girl hits? Thats my favorite account

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I have not, but a clanmate has a mini in mathmatica, admittedly not identical but similar enough that i have a decent idea of what these wars look like. Plus why would they engineer if not for advantage? Its just common knowledge thats why its done. Im not even hear to take issue with the way they play just the claim that the streak was obtained with hard fought fair wars. Am i to believe the most successful engineers are the only ones not getting a advantage? And i could be mistaken but have you not been in that clan? I feel like i have seen your forum name in the martians. Could be wrong as im not positive just sounds familiar.

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Mathmatica is pretty impressive. They have some good th11 attackers. I use to be a member there when th10 was the highest. They were pretty good. I can vouch for their attack skills. Also they are requesting a high level war clan to war against then for their 500th win so that says something.

6M is largely unkown. No one knows anything about their attack skills. Would be nice if we could see some of them attack

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I love 6M lol.

But please you guys do not go against experienced clans. You draw casuals most of the time. Whether or not they have a good chance of winning is unknown to me. That being said i would really love to see some of the bases in the clan attack. Any chance we can see what bases trash girl hits? Thats my favorite account

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6M could show a full war roster vs roster screenshots if they wanted the prove anything ;^)
Now I do have seen a 6M match, but it was time ago, in the previous matchmaking
And their top village was not the high level TH11 they allegedly have now

Was that before the October Update? Before that, offensive lopsided bases basically guaranteed you a win. With the current matchmaking, you will be put into the lopsided matchmaking pool and you will eventually loose. I think its very likely they switched to some variation of roster engineering now. There are several very low defense account in the clan now, that is a very clear sign of roster engineering. i think they are using roster engineering.

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6M could show a full war roster vs roster screenshots if they wanted the prove anything ;^)
Now I do have seen a 6M match, but it was time ago, in the previous matchmaking
And their top village was not the high level TH11 they allegedly have now

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I can say this safely. 6M draws in less experienced clans. They may or may not have a good chance of winning, but they definately are below average

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That's the real secret of the clans with massive win streaks. Even when the matchup is theoretically fair, very, very few clans that they face are serious about wars.

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Was that before the October Update? Before that, offensive lopsided bases basically guaranteed you a win. With the current matchmaking, you will be put into the lopsided matchmaking pool and you will eventually loose. I think its very likely they switched to some variation of roster engineering now. There are several very low defense account in the clan now, that is a very clear sign of roster engineering. i think they are using roster engineering.

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Yes it was before October
They already had the low defense villages in, just not any huge anchor at the top

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That's the real secret of the clans with massive win streaks. Even when the matchup is theoretically fair, very, very few clans that they face are serious about wars.

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Those that want serious wars migrated to CWL or other avenues long ago, when you click 'war' quite likely to get a bunch of kids. I don't think they've matched with kids 300 times in a row though.

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That's the real secret of the clans with massive win streaks. Even when the matchup is theoretically fair, very, very few clans that they face are serious about wars.

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Yeah true. I think the wars they go against the enemy does have a decent chance at winning but they care very little. In that case, its the enemy's clans fault 100% but thats another discussion

I would love to meet this clan and end their streak. Oh wait, we cant meet them. We have a th9 with almost maxed defence. :)

Joke aside, Im just looking forward to seeing all these engineered clans losing their streaks when SC fixes the MM. Then we can have some real competition. Enjoy your streak while it lasts.

Your streak is only 210 btw. You wont reach 300 before the MM is fixed.

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I would love to meet this clan and end their streak. Oh wait, we cant meet them. We have a th9 with almost maxed defence. :)

Joke aside, Im just looking forward to seeing all these engineered clans losing their streaks when SC fixes the MM. Then we can have some real competition. Enjoy your streak while it lasts.

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You are going to wait a long time....you do realize this streak of 300 wins spanned over almost 2 years? Over numerous changes made in the match making? Yet we are still standing...I do give you a point, EVERY SINGLE engineered clans lost their streak except one....

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Was that before the October Update? Before that, offensive lopsided bases basically guaranteed you a win. With the current matchmaking, you will be put into the lopsided matchmaking pool and you will eventually loose. I think its very likely they switched to some variation of roster engineering now. There are several very low defense account in the clan now, that is a very clear sign of roster engineering. i think they are using roster engineering.

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Not sure what they do has a name, its a clan like no other i have seen and that most likely is what keeps the advantage alive. The MM probably has a real hard time when they spin for war. I think ill blame my disconects on the martians throwing the servers into a fit as it trys to comprehend that roster. With that ill say goodbye to this thread as any hope of a peak at opponent roster has faded away. Congrats on the streak its mighty regardless of enemy strength. Condolences to all who face them as im sure its discouraging to say the least.

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more or less. 6M definately has the advantage most wars but i feel like the opponents have a good chance to win too if they knew how to attack.

I can say this safely. 6M draws in less experienced clans. They may or may not have a good chance of winning, but they definately are below average

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80% of clans out there are not very good to start with...so your clan obviously got your fair share of those clans as well, just like mine. We also do get our fair share of mismatches disadvantages just like any clans out there.... I do agree our wars are not as hard as clans involved in RHL leader board on cocp.it....that war mostly with only th9+...then again many of them mod, contrary to us. We could have gone into those harder wars, but modding is not something we wanted to do. Many of our clan members have max th11 as main account, so it is not like we don't know how to deal with hard wars.

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You are going to wait a long time....you do realize this streak of 300 wins spanned over almost 2 years? Over numerous changes made in the match making? Yet we are still standing...I do give you a point, EVERY SINGLE engineered clans lost their streak except one....

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Is it close to 300 or 210? Game says 210.

In those 2 years the MM has heavily favored offence over defence all the time. I think thats about to change.

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Mathmatica is pretty impressive. They have some good th11 attackers. I use to be a member there when th10 was the highest. They were pretty good. I can vouch for their attack skills. Also they are requesting a high level war clan to war against then for their 500th win so that says something.

6M is largely unkown. No one knows anything about their attack skills. Would be nice if we could see some of them attack

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I can vouch that Mathematica used to mod as well... admitted by Caw himself. But it is true they have amazing attackers. Just saw it in a recent war.
As for GM attack skill? Let just say we don't have bad attackers. We have mostly decent attackers, with a few elite attackers that can rival with the best ones out there, and that is one of the main reasons why we are able to keep our streak.

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Originally Posted by Maretti

Is it close to 300 or 210? Game says 210.

In those 2 years the MM has heavily favored offence over defence all the time. I think thats about to change.

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We alreday got 140 wins streak when the wins streak info was introduced.
Offense is favored over defense? Nah, we knew about this is myth a long time ago, way before sc itself announced on this forum that offense and defense was really 50/50, back in March 2016. You may need to learn more about how match making works and how it changed over the last two years.

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Originally Posted by Maretti

I would love to meet this clan and end their streak. Oh wait, we cant meet them. We have a th9 with almost maxed defence. :)

Joke aside, Im just looking forward to seeing all these engineered clans losing their streaks when SC fixes the MM. Then we can have some real competition. Enjoy your streak while it lasts.

Your streak is only 210 btw. You wont reach 300 before the MM is fixed.

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Keep dreaming. Besides even if there is a drastic change to MM i would assume 6M would pause war in main clan, war in an alt clan, and then continue warring

This would be really impressive if it wasn't for the fact that over 90% of your wars you won by a bunch of stars. They gave up, you dominated them. 300 wars with opponents that don't try most of the time is not that impressive. If you guys went against more serious clans that stuck out to the end, this would be really impressive. But the massive amount of roster engineering leaves a distaste in my mouth because it pretty much confirms that if you know the matchmaking well and can manipulate it to your favor, you win way too much in your favor. Actually, thank you for posting this so that I can show proof that the system needs to change.

Impressive. Now put your streak where your mouth is and bring all the max mains into the clan and go to war with that line up. Take on some of the other really good clans and show the attacking and base building skills you feel are the reason for your success.

Juss saying ingame it says 210 because when that feature was introduced ingame all streaks >50 started from 50
I thought by now people understood that :rolleyes:

not too shabby for an engineered clan ;)

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Impressive. Now put your streak where your mouth is and bring all the max mains into the clan and go to war with that line up. Take on some of the other really good clans and show the attacking and base building skills you feel are the reason for your success.

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It is funny how some people invent imaginary rules for this game, and try to impose their view on how the game should be played and how their way of playing is superior than other. You think wars with a bunch of maxxed th11 where two stars attacks are the rule and where modders (used to) ruled, are any better? We prefer th9 wars where modders don't rule the game, where skills can make a difference between a 2 stars and a 3 stars attack, and where good defenses on th9 vs th9, can have a huge impact on the war outcome.

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Originally Posted by MasterOfAllTimeAndMagic

This would be really impressive if it wasn't for the fact that over 90% of your wars you won by a bunch of stars. They gave up, you dominated them. 300 wars with opponents that don't try most of the time is not that impressive. If you guys went against more serious clans that stuck out to the end, this would be really impressive. But the massive amount of roster engineering leaves a distaste in my mouth because it pretty much confirms that if you know the matchmaking well and can manipulate it to your favor, you win way too much in your favor. Actually, thank you for posting this so that I can show proof that the system needs to change.

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Many of our opponents have numerous perfect scores in their war log, good war records and decent wins streak. They are not quitters either. They just hit a brick wall against us and quit. Even if they don't quit, they would not get closer to 10, 15 stars...because we have great defenses. In fact, we pUT a lot of emphasis on our defenses, contrary to most clans out there.

Oh yeah, the system is broken because there are lots of little Martians clans running around with huge wins streaks...

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Originally Posted by CheckMate99

It is funny how some people invent imaginary rules for this game, and try to impose their view on how the game should be played and how their way of playing is superior than other. You think wars with a bunch of maxxed th11 where two stars attacks are the rule and where modders (used to) ruled, are any better? We prefer th9 wars where modders don't rule the game, where skills can make a difference between a 2 stars and a 3 stars attack, and where good defenses on th9 vs th9, can have a huge impact on the war outcome.

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OK. start using an all max th9 line up and see how far you can take the streak.

Why change lineup if current one works well?

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Originally Posted by CheckMate99

Your line up is not very different than ours. In addition, contrary to you, we don't have lopsided bases, yet you can barely get a 10 wins streak. Lets talk again when you can achieve 10 wins streak again ...

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Really? You have roster engineering across the entire lineup, yet you come on here to brag about beating up weaklings every war? It's been 30 wars since you've had an even remotely competitive war, and that's a big stretch calling that one "competitive". Even up your bases and get out of the kiddie pool if you want our respect.

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Originally Posted by CheckMate99

Please don't throw around stupid modding rumors and accusations when you obviously know little about our clan.

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Originally Posted by CasimirEffect

I have not accused your clan of modding, I simply added a qualifier to achievements. In fact, I added a few qualifiers that most of the community will agree with. If certain qualifiers do not apply to your clan, feel free to ignore them. :)

Again, *congratulations*. 200+ consecutive wins is an impressive feat.

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You don't need to qualify anything. You're a significantly better player than anybody in that clan. I didn't see how you mentioned "modding" at all, anyway. I think that their feathers are just ruffled because they were hoping to get a bunch of adulation from th5's in this thread or something.

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Originally Posted by CheckMate99

Lol, one decent war? You base it on how close the score is? We dominate our opponents on both defense and offense, that is why there is a huge stars spread. Sure, some did give up though. And yeah there were a few wars where we got mismatch disadvantage as well.

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None of those have been recent, that's for sure. Or are you claiming that you won some wars 90-45 in which your bases were just so superior that your opponents, even though they had comparable offense and defense across the board, were just unable to overcome your awesomeness?

You can stack the deck in your favor to match up with terrible clans time and after time, and normally we ignore you guys, but coming on here to brag about beating weaklings time after time is just bad form.

Congrats on the streak! Seems like a lot of clans gave up or were over matched. Maybe ten or so matches can close.

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Originally Posted by ReplicantRachel

For the ones criticizing: It is not as simple as you think it is, the proof is that no other clan has been able to do it even though they try to copy calling themselves "engineers".

Sure! Clans can try and engineer with their minimax and .5's and defenseless and roster and whatnot but eventually it all comes down to skill when matchmaking chooses the clan than can mess with your streak.

And OP's clan has had tough matches just like any other and came victorious. How? With skill! Good attacking and good base design.
Don't believe me? There was a post not long ago about them facing such a bad match that even their leader complained here in forums about terrible matching, of course everyone jumped on him and said well tough luck haha...they still won GG

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How many actually competitive matchups have they had? I didn't bother going past 30 wars, but I had to go down that far to find one that was within 5 stars (exactly 5*), and almost every other war was 30++ stars difference.

Also, some things cannot be copied today, like a base with no purple troops at all. You guys have helped the devs to close out loopholes so that others cannot follow you, if they were inclined to waste 2+ years beating up on bases 3 th below theirs war after war, ofc.

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Originally Posted by Nathandrake2017

Even if you are super skilled there is no way to get a really big streak.

That is a fact.

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That's an opinion. It's tough, and unlikely, but I've run into some clans that are legitimately good enough to get serious win streaks vs consistently even competition. Part of the "engineering" that the OP's clan does, however, is to keep them from facing good opponents with comparable skill. So, in those extremely rare instances in which they run into a clan that's actually a decent match on paper, their skill level is not up to the task to take them down.

U guys are SKILLED. Hope u win more :)

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Originally Posted by ReplicantRachel

Why change lineup if current one works well?

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I suspect they are a lot better then myself and most other clashers, but would like to see them put together a long string of unengineered wins before they call themselves the best clan. They appear to be by far the best engineered clan, but that is a whole different skill set from what a couple people seem to want to claim them to be which is the best clan.

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Originally Posted by MossackFonseca

That's an opinion. It's tough, and unlikely, but I've run into some clans that are legitimately good enough to get serious win streaks vs consistently even competition. Part of the "engineering" that the OP's clan does, however, is to keep them from facing good opponents with comparable skill. So, in those extremely rare instances in which they run into a clan that's actually a decent match on paper, their skill level is not up to the task to take them down.

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Point me out to a clan that is not lopsided AT ALL (no .5s or th3 fillers either) with over a 100 win streak. Actually scratch that, lets go with 75+. Maybe 60+ if you cant find any

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How many actually competitive matchups have they had? I didn't bother going past 30 wars, but I had to go down that far to find one that was within 5 stars (exactly 5*), and almost every other war was 30++ stars difference.

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Are you gonna tell me all your wars are competitive (within 5 stars)? https://cocp.it/clan/PVG00R80
There's so much you can control in game and clan but definitely not opponent clan.
The nerve of some people really!

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Also, some things cannot be copied today, like a base with no purple troops at all. You guys have helped the devs to close out loopholes so that others cannot follow you, if they were inclined to waste 2+ years beating up on bases 3 th below theirs war after war, ofc.

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So you are angry because you can't copy GM?

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Originally Posted by Nathandrake2017

Point me out to a clan that is not lopsided AT ALL (no .5s or th3 fillers either) with over a 100 win streak. Actually scratch that, lets go with 75+. Maybe 60+ if you cant find any

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F.D.S.K
Clash Heads
Mathmatica
Etc...
all with +100 wins streak. ..
all admitted modders...
And no, I am not throwing baseless information out there. Those clans all admitted to it themselves on this forum.

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F.D.S.K
Clash Heads
Mathmatica
Etc...
all with +100 wins streak. ..
all admitted modders...
And no, I am not throwing baseless information out there. Those clans all admitted to it themselves on this forum.

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Modders dont count. SHould have mentioned that but i thought it would be obvious lol...

Lol plz tell me this post is just my imagination. Give credit where credit is due. Grats on successfully manipulating war mm. As far as attack n def skill....lol come on man. R u serious? N lol at people who say stating facts is sign of jealousy. Jealousy over a game? Uh no comment lol. Jealousy over manipulating war mm? Im sure for few that answer is a yes. Jealousy over attack n def skill? Lol stop my ribs hurt now. I dont mind giving credit for stuff that is realistic but to think u should receive credit for attack/def skill, challenging wars(lol look no further than war log to c if this is true lol), n claim yall r one of best clans out there? Lol dang broke a rib. With that said much grats on successfully gaming the war mm. That is a skill n takes patience n or gems. So for that credit is rightly deserved but only for that. Sorry but cant say with straight face yall r one of the higher skilled clashers around. Shrug. Sometimes reality gives us harsh facts but hey fact is fact no? Psst btw shouldnt show ur war log bc it makes it so obvious the quality of wars yall been in. Js friendly tip

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Originally Posted by SSeleulc

I suspect they are a lot better then myself and most other clashers, but would like to see them put together a long string of unengineered wins before they call themselves the best clan. They appear to be by far the best engineered clan, but that is a whole different skill set from what a couple people seem to want to claim them to be which is the best clan.

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You will not find anyone from my clan claiming we are the best clan out there. In fact, our leader even created a whole new ranking based on difficulty level (see RHL leader board on cocp.it) and of course, our clan is not figured there as we fight lighter wars. And no, we have nothing to prove, especially toward some of the anti-engineers here who have zero clue about match making. In fact, before we posted our thread about our 200 wins streak a few months ago, most people never heard about us. And even now, apart from a couple of knowledgeable forumers, nobody has any idea about our line up, roster or the kind of wars we have.

You guys do have the most creative unique bases in clash though... kudos for that. Not sure anyone else can say they have a base without normal barracks here lol

Your clan definitely makes you scratch your head when you look at it

Couldnt let my curiosity go on what these wars look like so i decided to take some time today and search for some of these clans the martians fought, enough info is in the war log if people wanna put the time in. I was even fortunate enough to be able to visit a few to get a better look. I will admit they are not the extreme pushovers i suspected (not all anyways) these wars definitely leave the martians a solid advantage and the other team would need to be really good to have a hope. If anyone else would like to search i found 11 of them in about a hour so get your pen and paper and go detective mode. Curious to hear what others think.

:thumbsup:

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Couldnt let my curiosity go on what these wars look like so i decided to take some time today and search for some of these clans the martians fought, enough info is in the war log if people wanna put the time in. I was even fortunate enough to be able to visit a few to get a better look. I will admit they are not the extreme pushovers i suspected (not all anyways) these wars definitely leave the martians a solid advantage and the other team would need to be really good to have a hope. If anyone else would like to search i found 11 of them in about a hour so get your pen and paper and go detective mode. Curious to hear what others think.

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Im a lazy detective. Lol dont need to do all that work to c the quality of bases they face. All u have to do is look at their roster n war log. It's easy to deduce (correctly) that they face much lesser comp (ie: less challenging bases) the only skill they can claim is vast knowledge of war mm which apparently they do very well. Their wars r not on battlefield but on setting up roster. Roster management is their war.

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Im a lazy detective. Lol dont need to do all that work to c the quality of bases they face. All u have to do is look at their roster n war log. It's easy to deduce (correctly) that they face much lesser comp (ie: less challenging bases) the only skill they can claim is vast knowledge of war mm which apparently they do very well. Their wars r not on battlefield but on setting up roster. Roster management is their war.

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That may be true but you should still see some of the clans they face. Yes they are less experienced but i do want to see whether the opponents have a chance at winning.

also we dont actually know their roster. they have 50 members but do 25-30 man wars. if we knew their roster... lets just say we would be organizing a hunt ;)

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Im a lazy detective. Lol dont need to do all that work to c the quality of bases they face. All u have to do is look at their roster n war log. It's easy to deduce (correctly) that they face much lesser comp (ie: less challenging bases) the only skill they can claim is vast knowledge of war mm which apparently they do very well. Their wars r not on battlefield but on setting up roster. Roster management is their war.

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No question they arrange favorable matches, and they do it better than everyone else that tries with .5s, defenseless, roster comp, war search restarts, anything. But if you're looking at stars on previous matchups that can overstate the case. My clan has a lot of wars that look easy based on final score, but were worrying on prep day. People get intimidated if you're on a streak & hit hard right out of the gate.

Wait can we actually come and celebrate???

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That may be true but you should still see some of the clans they face. Yes they are less experienced but i do want to see whether the opponents have a chance at winning.

also we dont actually know their roster. they have 50 members but do 25-30 man wars. if we knew their roster... lets just say we would be organizing a hunt ;)

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O tru im sure some of their opponents have chance to win but chances r they not experienced enuff yet. With their extreme low overall clan weight they will also draw in clans who either manipulated badly or low ug bases which generally means they r not skilled enuff yet to take down any good base. (Or bc they dont have the necessary tools) its simple to c if my statement is true or not. Simply ask to c if they r willing to show details of their wars (bet u they will say no lol) also its easy to assume what their roster is generally speaking. Guarantee most of that roster doesn't have many or even a few max th10-11. Is my assumption right? Didnt bother looking tbh bc I feel my assumptions r correct.

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No question they arrange favorable matches, and they do it better than everyone else that tries with .5s, defenseless, roster comp, war search restarts, anything. But if you're looking at stars on previous matchups that can overstate the case. My clan has a lot of wars that look easy based on final score, but were worrying on prep day. People get intimidated if you're on a streak & hit hard right out of the gate.

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Ok im sure in some cases u r right but look at that log again plz lol. U telling me its overstated? Law of probability should insinuate those huge discrepancies in star totals shouldn't b most(almost all) of their log no? Lol

omg.. complainers never stop.. looks like they doing well by battles!!! haha just for a loot
plz stop stupidity and make decisions to be warriors or farmers because no solutions for this matter at least for 1 year.. lol

I say 300 win streak is something to be celebrated independently of war roster.

Why do people push their way of playing as the one it should be played?
You see farm wars, and all th7 clan pushing cups, and even clan that wars with only goblins and they all have fun in a way.

The game is supposed to be fun any way you want to play (of course without breaking rules)

Play it like you want and be happy for the accomplishment of others, can't we just do that?

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Originally Posted by ReplicantRachel

I say 300 win streak is something to be celebrated independently of war roster.

Why do people push their way of playing as the one it should be played?
You see farm wars, and all th7 clan pushing cups, and even clan that wars with only goblins and they all have fun in a way.

The game is supposed to be fun any way you want to play (of course without breaking rules)

Play it like you want and be happy for the accomplishment of others, can't we just do that?

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Lol no one is pushing anyone to doing anything. I agree u should play however u want but when people make foolish statements trying to boast or support ridiculous claims u gotta expect backlash/ counter arguments. If poster made claim that they manipulated war successfully n it takes effort to making a engineer roster than cant really argue that fact. But instead he n other pro engineers decided to make outlandish claims that wars were challenging, it takes skills (def n attack) to win, etc etc. Its fine to play how u like but b realistic n not delusional. Thats like a modder saying he or she is a three star specialist. Uh no u not. All u do is practice hitting same base god knows how many times till u can three it. Yes a three starrer but its jaded. Doesnt deserve the full respect n recognition that a legit three starrer should get. I dont know bout others here but im fine with however u wanna play as long as it is legal but when ur style of play makes u blind to reality well....this will happen lol.

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Lol no one is pushing anyone to doing anything. I agree u should play however u want but when people make foolish statements trying to boast or support ridiculous claims u gotta expect backlash/ counter arguments. If poster made claim that they manipulated war successfully n it takes effort to making a engineer roster than cant really argue that fact. But instead he n other pro engineers decided to make outlandish claims that wars were challenging, it takes skills (def n attack) to win, etc etc. Its fine to play how u like but b realistic n not delusional. Thats like a modder saying he or she is a three star specialist. Uh no u not. All u do is practice hitting same base god knows how many times till u can three it. Yes a three starrer but its jaded. Doesnt deserve the full respect n recognition that a legit three starrer should get. I dont know bout others here but im fine with however u wanna play as long as it is legal but when ur style of play makes u blind to reality well....this will happen lol.

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Lol I don't think anybody is being blind lol, sure most matches might be easy but then there's a couple fights that might have broken the streak and yet they were won by skill.

Let's not fall in superlatives, not all of the wars are hard, not in this clan not in any other clan either.

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Lol I don't think anybody is being blind lol, sure most matches might be easy but then there's a couple fights that might have broken the streak and yet they were won by skill.

Let's not fall in superlatives, not all of the wars are hard, not in this clan not in any other clan either.

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Very true but u gotta admit most of their wars r not hard. Very very few I suspect r "hard" (where other side has solid chance to win) but thats just speculation although speculation is based on facts. Like I said if any of my statements seem biased, warped, or flat out untrue simply ask to c details of their wars. We all know what that will find tho right? Lol this supposed skill u speak of was needed how many times during that streak? Now add that to fact most of wars r cakewalk to get said streak n u honestly n truly believe streak deserves respect, recognition, n grats? Lets b real now. No offense btw. Simply speaking reality

300 wins is an impressive feat.
out of those 300, how many wars were you up against clans that have the same amount of town hall 11's, 10's and 9's that weren't engineered?

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O tru im sure some of their opponents have chance to win but chances r they not experienced enuff yet. With their extreme low overall clan weight they will also draw in clans who either manipulated badly or low ug bases which generally means they r not skilled enuff yet to take down any good base. (Or bc they dont have the necessary tools) its simple to c if my statement is true or not. Simply ask to c if they r willing to show details of their wars (bet u they will say no lol) also its easy to assume what their roster is generally speaking. Guarantee most of that roster doesn't have many or even a few max th10-11. Is my assumption right? Didnt bother looking tbh bc I feel my assumptions r correct.

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opponents fault if they are not experienced