Why engineering is good for the game

There's two ways to engineer. One is to up your TH but leave your defenses behind, get that advanced attack power but give up easier 3 stars on your base as a result. The other is to up your defenses but not your camps, CC, troops or heroes. Try to get a big defensive advantage and hope the other team can't crack your heavier bases while you can score enough stars on them.

You'll notice no one does the second one and actually wins wars, which is why "engineering" is a problem. It's not cheating but it's gaming the system. One clan shouldn't have a gigantic attack advantage over the other with a pretty even defensive comparison. What's the fun in that?

Considering there's 2 attacks to 1 base, the weighting for matchups in war should be around 2 to 1, offense to defense. Or maybe 60% offense, 40% defense. So the clans that do want to engineer and get a whole lot more attack power compared to defensive power can certainly do that, they'll just pay for it in having to deal with more bases that they have the attack power to handle anyway. Surely they wouldn't mind doing that right?

They are both engineering and thus both gaming the system. SO is perma maxing at th9/10 and below. Gaming the system because you dont have to move up

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Originally Posted by NellyFor3

There's two ways to engineer. One is to up your TH but leave your defenses behind, get that advanced attack power but give up easier 3 stars on your base as a result. The other is to up your defenses but not your camps, CC, troops or heroes. Try to get a big defensive advantage and hope the other team can't crack your heavier bases while you can score enough stars on them.

You'll notice no one does the second one and actually wins wars, which is why "engineering" is a problem. It's not cheating but it's gaming the system. One clan shouldn't have a gigantic attack advantage over the other with a pretty even defensive comparison. What's the fun in that?

Considering there's 2 attacks to 1 base, the weighting for matchups in war should be around 2 to 1, offense to defense. Or maybe 60% offense, 40% defense. So the clans that do want to engineer and get a whole lot more attack power compared to defensive power can certainly do that, they'll just pay for it in having to deal with more bases that they have the attack power to handle anyway. Surely they wouldn't mind doing that right?

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Considering each clan has an equal amount of defences to offences, the 2 to 1 is irrelevant. In fact a base can defend many times per war, so perhaps we should make the defensive weightings higher. The defensive damage and hitpoints of the late townhall levels in fact far outstrip offensive hitpoints and dps increases, meaning we should weigh defence even more.

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Originally Posted by NellyFor3

Considering there's 2 attacks to 1 base, the weighting for matchups in war should be around 2 to 1, offense to defense. Or maybe 60% offense, 40% defense.

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You have to be careful here. Sure there are 2 attacks for every one base. However a base is not limited to only defending against two attacks.

I've been in many wars where I've seen 6-8 attacks fail to triple a base.

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Originally Posted by Azrial

You have to be careful here. Sure there are 2 attacks for every one base. However a base is not limited to only defending against two attacks.

I've been in many wars where I've seen 6-8 attacks fail to triple a base.

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Good point. Havnt seen many people address this part of the equation.

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Originally Posted by NellyFor3

There's two ways to engineer. One is to up your TH but leave your defenses behind, get that advanced attack power but give up easier 3 stars on your base as a result. The other is to up your defenses but not your camps, CC, troops or heroes. Try to get a big defensive advantage and hope the other team can't crack your heavier bases while you can score enough stars on them.

You'll notice no one does the second one and actually wins wars, which is why "engineering" is a problem. It's not cheating but it's gaming the system. One clan shouldn't have a gigantic attack advantage over the other with a pretty even defensive comparison. What's the fun in that?

Considering there's 2 attacks to 1 base, the weighting for matchups in war should be around 2 to 1, offense to defense. Or maybe 60% offense, 40% defense. So the clans that do want to engineer and get a whole lot more attack power compared to defensive power can certainly do that, they'll just pay for it in having to deal with more bases that they have the attack power to handle anyway. Surely they wouldn't mind doing that right?

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I heard that's what engineers were doing 1 year ago which prompted SuperCell to introduce the current system which led to the rise of offensively lopsided bases.

As you can see, true balance is rather hard to achieve.

:facepalm: Don't spread the secret...

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Originally Posted by Azrial

You have to be careful here. Sure there are 2 attacks for every one base. However a base is not limited to only defending against two attacks.

I've been in many wars where I've seen 6-8 attacks fail to triple a base.

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Hi , I'm new beginning for this site recommend I thank you for everything.: D

Just did a war search and pulled an engineering clan. I got a th9, 2 th8s, 6 th7s and a th6. I drew a th10, th9, 7 th7s, 1 th6. Looked at the mirrors at the top and knew something wasn't right. Sure enough, a near defenseless 10 in the 8 spot.

Now I'm no poster child for maxers nor am I a hardcore engineer. One of my 8s is lacking a bomb tower and tesla just because I haven't saved up for them. The th6 is the most engineered with lv 1 defenses but troops are weak too as I use it for a filler from time to time. I just upgrade it this way on its journey to 7 where it will park and play catchup on everything. All other accounts have defenses at or very near town hall level.

The 9 on the top isn't very strong. Looks like it came from th8 not too long ago. Defenses are ok but not great for an anchor base. Troop strength is average with lv 4 valks unlocked. Th10 has max valks, th10 drags and bowlers unlocked. Both have pre teen heroes. Mine just hit the teens.

Now, if I was a new th9 going against this, I wouldn't be happy. I would probably lack the attacking experience to 3 their top base while they are already celebrating the win with an easy 30. Th10 dips on my 9, th9 double dips on my 8s, 7s do the rest. Plus, its a one man clan on top of it. Other clan has an extremely easy time on the other side. Unlucky for him/her, I'll match that 30 with 30 of my own which means I can see the future. Hooray, what fun!

So, in my opinion, coming from a less experienced player's point of view, engineering is not good for the game. It is good for people with less than average attackers to enjoy the game by dip attacking on town halls lower than them. I know not all do this and they use it for an extra attack on an equal town hall. I can understand that use, but its also being used in the way I described. Probably a lot more than fighting equal town halls and that's the engineering I have an issue with.

You left out a thirs scenario, you update your offense to how you attack and add defensive structures to prevent 3 star in war. Yes 1 cannon and maxed out offenses isnt very creative, and is a defensive dissappointment most times. What if you were to only add the bare neccessities on defense and stack your offense. Its equally as difficult as maxing your base and following these make believe guidlines of taking 2 to 3 years to get a maxed out th8. I wouldve quit long ago if that were the only case. And if it becomes a reality, you will lose a very large % of people who actually spend monies on the game.

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