New war system that engineers and maxers will all love!

Everyone has their war base designs page. On that page you not only can decide what defenses you put on the base, you can even lower their levels. Same for walls. And troops. When a match is sought, this all locks in and you cannot change it on war day. We can turn this whole war system into a full out engineering contest! Those who are "smarter" in how they engineer their war base will be "rewarded" and yet it won't hurt their upgrade path in multiplayer. We will all love it, right! A big huge engineering contest. How great is that! What a perfect war system. Let's make it happen.

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Even if you were serious, which I suspect you aren't (my sarcasm detector is unreliable :smirk:), never gonna happen. Reverse-engineering of the MM algorithm would get real easy real fast. Even if it does get tweaked routinely as I believe to be the case.

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Originally Posted by posthoc

Even if you were serious, which I suspect you aren't (my sarcasm detector is unreliable :smirk:), never gonna happen. Reverse-engineering of the MM algorithm would get real easy real fast. Even if it does get tweaked routinely as I believe to be the case.

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But reverse engineering is a good thing according to engineers. The clan that can engineer the best to the most extreme should be rewarded for being so smart! Those who care about multiplayer can continue to upgrade on whatever path is best for multiplayer and not be hurt in war. My mates who are unsure about dropping a big defense can go ahead and build it and just not use it in war. It sounds awesome. (Your sarcasm detector was reliable by the way.)

Lets face it, the only way to completely stop engineering is if SC declares it being against TOS and start banning people for it (they won't). People who like to engineer/want to engineer isn't going to change their minds simply because an anti-engineer comes up with an eloquent argument as to why engineering is bad for the game. Nor are they going to care if some people on a forum call them names (cowards, cheaters, unethical, no morals etc.). The matchmaker will never be perfect and some people will always look for an advantage.

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Originally Posted by Chang405

Lets face it, the only way to completely stop engineering is if SC declares it being against TOS and start banning people for it (they won't). People who like to engineer/want to engineer isn't going to change their minds simply because an anti-engineer comes up with an eloquent argument as to why engineering is bad for the game. Nor are they going to care if some people on a forum call them names (cowards, cheaters, unethical, no morals etc.). The matchmaker will never be perfect and some people will always look for an advantage.

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That isn't the only way to stop engineering and given it would be very hard to draw the line it would be impossible to implement. If we really wanted to completely stop engineering we would just make every account way at minimum what the maximum weight is of a maxed out hall below. That would stop engineering immediately. However, it would have other negative effects and is not something I necessarily would endorse for the reasons discussed in other threads.

I do like the original idea though, 2222. Subversive in the extreme... will have both engineers and maxers hollering bloody murder... What's not to like?

Ive always liked my idea too bad most dont seem to like it. Base mm on total resources won, collected, mined, gemmed, etc. Those that engineer to attack higher will be rewarded more and come into balance. Often times they have huge amounts of gold that gets wasted since the dont upgrade their defenses. It would create balance for all except those that sit at a paticular th. I know its not perfect and its a different way of thinking but it would create a balance to bot maxers, rushers, and engineers.

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Originally Posted by posthoc

I do like the original idea though, 2222. Subversive in the extreme... will have both engineers and maxers hollering bloody murder... What's not to like?

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Haha, no engineers could complain, it would ruin their argument that it is good to have a war system that puts a lot of emphasis on who engineers their accounts the best.

I have a proposal for a new system. I say SC create a secondary matching system which compares bases on a lane by lane basis. Clans have an option of choosing this new system and people who want perfect matches 100% of the time will get them. The searches may take hours or days but at least the matches will be "perfect". Clans that want quick searches and are satisfied with the current system will use the current system by default.

Lol ha ha ha, Id have to say the base concept is better than the way war works at the moment.

I personally think if TH11's are going to be permitted to match against TH6's etc then there should be no cap on your troop upgrade level at each TH. we have TH11 etc matching against lesser TH levels why not permit those lower TH levels to also research up to max troops. that would level the playing field massively.