Enough complaining about engineering.

But if you ensure you don't go against a good team, then aren't you putting together the best team?

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Originally Posted by daddylindo

Fair enough. Im here and waiting hoping they are fixing the issue everyday. I have no problem if a war search takes 6 hours to find, just take that 6 hours off of prep day. We can fill war cc in 17 hours, and if we don't, guess what, we deserve what we get.

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The problem is that while it might have taken your clan 6 hours to find a match, it might have only taken your opponent 15 minutes. There is no fair way to shave time off of prep day.

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Originally Posted by Taternader

It's kind of like working a salary cap, but instead of putting together the best team you can afford, you are trying to ensure that you won't ever play against a good team.

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Happens all the time in pro sports. LeBron James opted to go to Cleveland in part because it's in the ultra-weak eastern division of the NBA which virtually ensures that they will be in the finals each year until he's not there anymore.

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Originally Posted by gw2kpro

Happens all the time in pro sports. LeBron James opted to go to Cleveland in part because it's in the ultra-weak western division of the NBA which virtually ensures that they will be in the finals each year until he's not there anymore.

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Cleveland is in the east, and he left another team in the east to go there. It never happens in professional sports.

Players leave bad teams to go to good teams, and they change teams for money. Nobody has ever chosen a team based upon the level of competition they play.

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Originally Posted by TankSinatra

No need for an analogy then, the mechanic you speak of actually exists. SC puts recent war record into the matchmaker (I think the effect is weak, others think its strong) so sandbaggers can theoretically lose every other war to get better matches. Who's trying that? Nobody.

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The effect is inconsistent. Sometimes it will pair you with a clan that is no more difficult than any other, but sometimes it puts you up against extremely difficult competition, or even unwinnable matches in extreme cases.

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Originally Posted by kimchilove

Give credit where credit is due. Sc did solid job of reconfiguring war mm. Alot of these current complaints r jokes (sorry if that sounded harsh but its the truth) is it perfect? Of course not but to think war mm is still broken? Come on man lol

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No doubt, it's a LOT better today than it was 3 months ago.

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Originally Posted by daddylindo

Fair enough. Im here and waiting hoping they are fixing the issue everyday. I have no problem if a war search takes 6 hours to find, just take that 6 hours off of prep day. We can fill war cc in 17 hours, and if we don't, guess what, we deserve what we get.

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I heard about the tough war you had the other day. Were you following all the recommendations to avoid engineers? No .5, no low th dumped on bottom, 30 minute search reset, tight base spread? What was your winning streak? I've recently found in Folk that even a single 9.5 is enough to skew us into engineered territory on war searches, we had 3 wars in a row that took 10 minutes or less, one took 2 minutes, but all 3 were pretty uneven.

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Originally Posted by Taternader

The problem is that while it might have taken your clan 6 hours to find a match, it might have only taken your opponent 15 minutes. There is no fair way to shave time off of prep day.

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Thats a swallow-able feature that everyone will see both ends of. Prep day is useless now. You cant scout. I know people switched their bases right before war started, but most did not. We do not look at each individual opponent and base what we put in our cc's off of that, somebody actually mentioned that on these forums one day, I thought it was a joke. People have preferations of what troops they want in their castle for their particular style base. I would rather have it this way if it ensured a fair war for both sides, 100 out of 100 times.

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Originally Posted by MossackFonseca

The effect is inconsistent. Sometimes it will pair you with a clan that is no more difficult than any other, but sometimes it puts you up against extremely difficult competition, or even unwinnable matches in extreme cases.



No doubt, it's a LOT better today than it was 3 months ago.



I heard about the tough war you had the other day. Were you following all the recommendations to avoid engineers? No .5, no low th dumped on bottom, 30 minute search reset, tight base spread? What was your winning streak? I've recently found in Folk that even a single 9.5 is enough to skew us into engineered territory on war searches, we had 3 wars in a row that took 10 minutes or less, one took 2 minutes, but all 3 were pretty uneven.

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We won six in a row. No .5's, no junk. Even spread from th11-7. I dont think theres a magic bullet mossack. Its luck of the draw for any clan that hits that search button.

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Originally Posted by gw2kpro

Nailed it. My clan occasionally fills in empty slots with very very low th3 accounts if we don't have enough green to make 25. And you know what happens?

We draw engineered clans.

When we have all legitimate bases in war, our bottom are high th7 halls. And we never, ever draw heavily engineered clans.

We have started talking about opting in the th7's instead of the th3's even though they're probably not going to make their war hits.

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My clan has done this several times recently, and it absolutely works. By that I mean that you don't draw uneven matches, and it's not going to kill you if a th7 or 8 on the bottom of a 25v25 doesn't attack, anyway.

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Originally Posted by daddylindo

We won six in a row. No .5's, no junk. Even spread from th11-7. I dont think theres a magic bullet mossack. Its luck of the draw for any clan that hits that search button.

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There is no magic bullet to anything... Same with engineered bases. They are not a magic bullet that lets them win consistently. It takes good attacks and a good roster to get solid consistent streaks.

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Originally Posted by MossackFonseca

My clan has done this several times recently, and it absolutely works. By that I mean that you don't draw uneven matches, and it's not going to kill you if a th7 or 8 on the bottom of a 25v25 doesn't attack, anyway.

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Yep. I'm not going to post a statistical breakdown because I don't have one. But I'll say this: every time our clan enters our th3's in war, we draw engineered clans. We rarely if ever pull them when we have all straight up bases.