SC - Please Break Your Silence On Engineered Bases

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Originally Posted by PurpleDeathStar

Maybe easier said than done, but you need some strong bases up top to mitigate the effects of engineering. We just had a war we have 2 gw, they had 7 in 15 v 15 war. They were th8-9 lvl defense with max valks or bowlers at 6,7,8,9,10., their 15 even had th10 bowlers! we have a max th11, new th11, max th10, medium th10, in our top 4, the rest th9. My first reaction was terror when I saw the match! Lol all those gw and max troops. I realized looking at it, they would for sure 3 star our 5 down, and probably more. But also, we would 3 star their 4 and down maybe more. End result, we won 44-40. One of my clan mates made a comment "why would they rush like that, dumb". I explained the whole offense vs defense weight aspect, he was like whatever. Lol. I will admit, they were not the best attackers, and did not use their attacks wisely, but even still, if you can get 44-45 stars in a 15v15.gonna be tough to beat. This war turned out to be less effort that a 'normal' war, because they were easier to 3 star that usual. Winning streak now 6,curious to see what we get tonight.

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moral of the story: engineered clans are not unwinnable and you shouldnt look at the color of a th to determine fariness

lol I'm sorry but geez, seems everybody is melting because they think that their FP sets the standard.

If you honestly think that forcing people to play one way will fix the game, then you finally been proven wrong by SC themselves.

Time to adapt and just play or quit.

Am I the only one that like SC's response in the Q&A?

- It's too hard to put the game on rails for everyone
- They've acknowledged that lopsided bases have given an unfair advantage
- They're gonna jam lopsided bases in matchmaking, and continue to make it harder for them

What else were we looking for?

There's been so much inference from people that their response meant they're doing nothing, and I just don't know how this is the conclusion that is being jumped to.

Matchmaking has already drastically improved for us. If it improves more - great. If it stays the same, we're still winning 85%-90% of the time even against engineered clans. We get the odd ridiculous match-up, but even then sometimes their skills are so bad we still win. We're not all going to win every war. I've been an advocate of taking away the engineered advantage for a long time. I've seen positive steps taken by SC and a promise for more to come.

Good enough for me.

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Originally Posted by Krudler02

Am I the only one that like SC's response in the Q&A?

- It's too hard to put the game on rails for everyone
- They've acknowledged that lopsided bases have given an unfair advantage
- They're gonna jam lopsided bases in matchmaking, and continue to make it harder for them

What else were we looking for?

There's been so much inference from people that their response meant they're doing nothing, and I just don't know how this is the conclusion that is being jumped to.

Matchmaking has already drastically improved for us. If it improves more - great. If it stays the same, we're still winning 85%-90% of the time even against engineered clans. We get the odd ridiculous match-up, but even then sometimes their skills are so bad we still win. We're not all going to win every war. I've been an advocate of taking away the engineered advantage for a long time. I've seen positive steps taken by SC and a promise for more to come.

Good enough for me.

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This. MM is pretty solid right now. Engineers face engineers most of the time.

Too bad the war mm will never be fair for bad attackers though

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Originally Posted by Nathandrake2017

This. MM is pretty solid right now. Engineers face engineers most of the time.

Too bad the war mm will never be fair for bad attackers though

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We've got a couple defenseless TH8 at the bottom for us and the clans we are getting matched with almost always have the exact same bases as us at the bottom. Sometimes we take a 9.5 to war with us, and we almost always pull an extra TH10 with infernos when we do. These are not insurmountable challenges. It's actually astounding how closely matched our wars have been over the last 15-20 wars, with only the odd exception.

Couple accounts in a couple of different clans, been in wars ranging as small as ten vs ten up to the 50 vs 50 size, with th levels 8-10 and 7 to 11. Still seeing the occasional engineered base and or clan roster as both clans war back to back. Whether facing a 'usual' clan or one more strategically engineered or built the matches are not unwinnable 90plus percent of the time now which indicates that the tweaks to matchmaking seem to be having an effect on the initial offensive advantage the engineers gained prior to the last few updates. My wish still is that SC provide both in and out of game information on both offensive/defensive upgrades and its effect on your accounts war weight, war is one of three generally agreed upon ways the other being farm and push and the lack of clearcut information,guides,tutorials about war weight compared to the other 2 is imo the real issue....

To you guys doing engineering.Why do engineerd bases what is the purpose ?

Third war in a row against engineered bases...i quit war this is just stupid SC, i hope you guys do tournaments against engineered bases so you can see how stupid this really is.

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Originally Posted by MixMaxwin

To you guys doing engineering.Why do engineerd bases what is the purpose ?

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To win. Part of human nature to be competitive and find ways to gain an advantage.

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Originally Posted by Rick0246

Third war in a row against engineered bases...i quit war this is just stupid SC, i hope you guys do tournaments against engineered bases so you can see how stupid this really is.

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I can understand the frustration, but recommend you don't quit. Learn from it. Read the numerous threads about it in the forum to get smarter on what is happening and adjust. Or try to manage your own expectations and what you're trying to get out of the game. Good luck.

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Originally Posted by Johnnyfsullivan

To win. Part of human nature to be competitive and find ways to gain an advantage.

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You know what I don't get though? Everyone was up in arms when a video of a player doing a faceroll 3 star came out, and yet, thats all engineering really does is help make sure thats the type of game experience you get. If I had my offence but was matched with a th9, I quit because the attacks were so boring. Who needs heros or spells? Even th10's would get steam rolled easily.

I know they do it to win, but why remove any challenge from the game. I see a guy with 1000 war stars but an engineered base I'm not going to say he "earned" those stars. I guess I just don't get the total obsession about winning without actually earning it. Its an odd concept to me.