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I wish they did... but, don't think they do.Quote:
Originally Posted by Deaf
Have folks been really impressed by SC interviews or announcements? (or even the devs' war attacks? ;))
I'd tend to agree with Jake (retired) from OneHive:
Is SuperCell and the Clash of Clans Team Great?
Of course, he mellowed a lot since his famous "the only place you can work and put out stuff like this and not get fired is the U.S government". :p
They most likely will not nuke engineered bases like antis want. I think they are sticking with incremental stealth nerfs until they only have an extremely small advantage
Meanwhile, I must say it's getting tiring facing the growing army of lopsiders.
Half or more of my recent war attacks have been against these .5s or .785s or whatever they call themselves.
It would be nice if our wars were a competition between equals on battle day, rather than a competition of who can better sandbag the mm system.
Are we there yet? ... are we there yet? ... are we there yet? Sorry, this thread is like a too-long car journey.Quote:
Originally Posted by wysiwyg
To the point of what you said, I don't think we will stop seeing them for a long time as there are a lot of them, and it's what "all the cool kids" have been up to for nearly a year. I don't use that phrase to mock engineers btw, but rather to suggest that while many may well know what they are doing and have it down to a fine art, many more are probably going blindly along following that trend without understanding. Sometime in the future they will be like the th outside bases you trip over in low gold or silver, someone failed to read a long ago memo and there it still is, while the ones that understood the change have changed with the times.
What we will see though, and what you, I and many others want, is that these bases no longer provide an advantage in matchmaking. I think we are getting there, and hope for the future on that.
I've moved up with a TH8 to 9 with no xbows yet and am surprised that while I get smashed harder than with my previous fresh TH9 where I instantly built xbows I still can get enough loot to have my lab running all the time and building the other stuff. Guess you're exaggerating a bit (but ofc I've not done it to TH11 and I don't think I'll ever get there with that account). There is also a maximum you can loose per raid. I do like 5 raids a day in average with this account and never faced problems till now except the bigger loss which is annoying but no blocker.Quote:
Originally Posted by Luckycharmed
Why do so people mention the downsides of engineering that just hits that one account (bad defense and getting smashed therefore, a decision they have made on their own) and compare it do the downside for others where whole clans are concerned regularly (a decision they did not have influence on)?
Why do other clans have to suffer because you choose to punish yourself to fool the mm system?
Imagine a standard soccer team, where you suddenly put world class players into. Only attackers, no new defenders. If they say it's ok they do not earn that much money they'd harm themselves, it's their decision. But their team had a lot more chances to win so they'd punish other teams and to them it will be frustrating, especially if more than one other team will do that. You know what, things like these sometimes happen, clubs buy new players and might get a bit better (not one thrid of a team though). But you know what also happens if a team gets too strong? It will climb up the leagues and therefore will be matched to stronger opponents so it'll soon be balanced somehow again. The last part is what CoC players against engineering are requesting and it's a valid argument I'd say:
Match up against others with the about the same chances so the game will remain exciting.
I also started engineering after being matched up with engineered clans and now we have 2 TH10'S with low level heroes who get matched with th9's.. We always 3 star all the enemies. 😜😊😊Quote:
Originally Posted by HappyDragon
Yes, mass bowlers and a couple of freeze spells will do that to a th9 mostly, unless it's a monkey driving the phone. The thing is, being 3 starred is going to happen pretty much every time if you're down nearer the bottom of the map, if the enemy has moderate skill, coordination and organisation - which is fine, you're the easy stars, a bigger one will be along if the first one your size left a star there. I'd just rather see it happen as a clean up dip attack in a match that didn't include lopsided bases, where the offence was roughly comparable across the board.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shrey55555
In the meantime I think moving towards the engineering way is the way to defeat this since SC is not going to change the MM anytime soon. We have directed our clan to stop what they are doing and upgrade to the next TH level focusing on some key major troops. For example we insisted that our th8's regardless what lvl they are max their dragloon army than go to th9 and do the same.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shrey55555
We got to to what we got to do.
Sadly as it is, I just did the same, th10 on the way only troop upgrade will be done, and buildings will be started and sold again to dump gold.Quote:
Originally Posted by prosper12
sad but seems to be the answer
Unfortunately, that's the hero penalty. Any Th10 troops should be able to 3 a th9. Heroes don't matter. A brand new Th10 who was a max 30/30 th9 gets matched to 9.5s or infernos. Low hero Th10 gets matched to th9sQuote:
Originally Posted by Shrey55555
a max Th10 40/40 can get matched to th11s.
SC has put Waaaaaayyyyy too much weight on heroes, except GW.
If a 30/30 max th9 loves th9, my advice is to stay there.