Why matchmaking needs a fix sooner rather than later

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Originally Posted by daddylindo

Theres an opponent for everybody. I dont even care if the opponent heroes are bigger, as long as its not 30/30 against 10/5 obviously, which i think they can differentiate, but if our th9 has 25/22 and his mirror has 30/30, makes no difference to me. He still has 4 spells and 220. It comes down to attacking and base design at that point. Th9's are not stopping 5 spells and 240 with th10 troops. And im not a mirror guy, we attack by town hall but im using an example. All we see now are th10's without infernos, getting easy cleans on our 9's, yet when we do get evenly matched 9's, they struggle on us. And the fact that they take the whole clans weight into consideration, it makes it difficult to gauge when 30 players are engineering their accounts. It leads to bad matchups. And its getting worse, cuz its a trend now. I think its ♥♥ that one clan has an easier time cleaning and an easier path to victory. The victory should be won ON THE FIELD, not by the dorky coach with his clipboard. I think people should be obligated to purchase everything from the shop when their town hall changed so everyone is in the same boat. Maybe you just gotta sit out a couple wars until you get your camps and a few troops, BIG DEAL. Or gem if you need the action that bad. Im tired of the "dont tell me how to upgrade" excuse. Stop trying to make yourselves look like brain surgeons. You're only exploiting the MM. And it begins to prey on clans because it amortizes into too many higher powered offenses that the defenses cant handle. I dont wanna hear "there's a way to fight or its skill to overcome", most of the time, IT'S NOT. Just like our war 2 wars ago, we COULDNT WIN. If everyone purchased everything from the shop, the wars would be much more even. They can calculate hero weights to not match 30/30 against 10/5, Im not buying they cant. 2222 brought up a good point about maxers not being able to go backwards... what about them?? Do they matter? Or are you engineers so stuck in your own behinds to not even care? Win at all costs right? Even if the wars become not fun, lets just have a green war log. Yayyyyyyyyy. Why do you engineer? You like attacking weaker bases? That must be it, because you certainly dont like attacking stronger bases. Weak quality to have

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This is why you cannot discuss or debate with anti-engineers

They expect that winning is all about field performance, but like everything in real life, winning is all about preparation. There's an old chinese saying "every minute of performance on stage requires 10 years of hard work".

For a given set of rules, the winner must find the best way to maximise their performance. The winning will do anything it takes, within that rules, to adapt and change and ultimately win. The whiner will complain why the rules aren't set in favor of him and refuse the rules.

Winning comes from mindset, adaptability and perseverance. Not from complaining about the system and rules, not from looking down on people seeking to win

Because ultimately, no matter how SC changes the rules, we engineers will adapt and still become winners.

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Originally Posted by SinOfDusk

This is why you cannot discuss or debate with anti-engineers

They expect that winning is all about field performance, but like everything in real life, winning is all about preparation. There's an old chinese saying "every minute of performance on stage requires 10 years of hard work".

For a given set of rules, the winner must find the best way to maximise their performance. The winning will do anything it takes, within that rules, to adapt and change and ultimately win. The whiner will complain why the rules aren't set in favor of him and refuse the rules.

Winning comes from mindset, adaptability and perseverance. Not from complaining about the system and rules, not from looking down on people seeking to win

Because ultimately, no matter how SC changes the rules, we engineers will adapt and still become winners.

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Until you become max th11's, then there's nowhere to hide. Maybe you'll never be a clan of max th11's though. You'll just continue to attack weak th9's... sounds fun.

Oh and btw, we dont complain and whine about anything other than the matchups. Its not about preparation. People can plan all they want until they get punched in the mouth, then suddenly things change. Im not buying your reasoning, sorry.

And yet all you do is complain and whine about the matchups. When your own clan engages in roster engineering. It might be easier and faster to fix what you can, on your side, rather than demanding that SuperCell fix things to favor your particular breed of base building and roster composition.

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Originally Posted by daddylindo

Until you become max th11's, then there's nowhere to hide. Maybe you'll never be a clan of max th11's though. You'll just continue to attack weak th9's... sounds fun.

Oh and btw, we dont complain and whine about anything other than the matchups. Its not about preparation. People can plan all they want until they get punched in the mouth, then suddenly things change. Im not buying your reasoning, sorry.

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Hes talking about a winning mindset. What he points out is that some of us play to win and some players are casual and don't care about preparation or planning and they look down upon winning if it doesnt abide by their own fake made up rules.

You then end up making up excuses like, "you cant war with the big boys, you have bad attack skills so you pick on weaker opponents, its cheating, its unfair, you're a bully". Its all excuses that scrubs use. War has only one goal on Clash of Clans, winning. Engineers found how to best win it. That's the end of it. Until SC comes out and says explicitly that they don't like engineering and that they will "fix it" or do something about it, engineers will keep winning while you fail to adapt. And before you quote Anoushka on "SC is trying to fix loopside bases" remember this is the same SC who gave us a "significant boost to loot league bonus", so always take with a grain of salt what they say :)

Here is a good article on it.
http://www.sirlin.net/ptw/

it describes perfectly all the anti engineers and the nerf crowd.

We getting engineer bases in war please fix sonner...............

In time most winning clans will be slightly engineered. Then... We will need to bring in more defenses.

BUT, no matter what, I won't be on here complaining when something changes not in our favor... I will be spending my time figuring out the next smart move.

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Originally Posted by LittleMoon

Hes talking about a winning mindset. What he points out is that some of us play to win and some players are casual and don't care about preparation or planning and they look down upon winning if it doesnt abide by their own fake made up rules.

You then end up making up excuses like, "you cant war with the big boys, you have bad attack skills so you pick on weaker opponents, its cheating, its unfair, you're a bully". Its all excuses that scrubs use. War has only one goal on Clash of Clans, winning. Engineers found how to best win it. That's the end of it. Until SC comes out and says explicitly that they don't like engineering and that they will "fix it" or do something about it, engineers will keep winning while you fail to adapt. And before you quote Anoushka on "SC is trying to fix loopside bases" remember this is the same SC who gave us a "significant boost to loot league bonus", so always take with a grain of salt what they say :)

Here is a good article on it.
http://www.sirlin.net/ptw/

it describes perfectly all the anti engineers and the nerf crowd.

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This, so much this

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Originally Posted by posthoc

And yet all you do is complain and whine about the matchups. When your own clan engages in roster engineering. It might be easier and faster to fix what you can, on your side, rather than demanding that SuperCell fix things to favor your particular breed of base building and roster composition.

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What this guy says is right.

The problem is, all the people complaining say what they want is a "fair" match.
They just set about maxing their base, throw any combination of town halls into war and expect a mirror of their own clan to fight.

Lets just say this actually happened and people were prepared to wait 24 hours for a "perfect match"

I predict the next complaints would be "we got an unfair match, the enemy had more war stars and their clan was of a higher level so their perks made it unfair"

Funnily enough I just read this:

https://forum-content.supercell.com/...quote_icon.png Originally Posted by PainUzumaki https://forum-content.supercell.com/...post-right.png Yeah why is supercell making unfair match ups nowadays, the othe day, my clan,which i lvl 2 went against a lvl 10 clan, and we stood no chance against them.