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Maybe. We have 2 th11's, 3 th10's, almost 20 th9's and a few th8's. So mainly right now our bulk is th9 which is where most of the wars would be won and we are CRUSHING th9's. Real th9's with maxed walls, defenses and monster heroes. Not these sister mary francis th9's with skull walls, no xbows and teenage heroes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chang405
I'll update the OPs thread, we lost in a tie breaker on percentage 57-57. Considering the mountain we had to climb, pretty solid performance from us. Losing definitely isn't fun, but knowing it took 6 more TH 11 attacks than we had to beat us in a 20v20 is as satisfying as a loss can be.
I've hunted maxer clans for a very long time. Too many perma-maxers have weight too close to a higher TH level, allowing 10/9 and 9/8 wars that we have 3-6 top end advantage in 15v15. This results in easy wins or perfect ties all the timeQuote:
Originally Posted by Kenchafer
Its as much reducing offensive weight as reducing defensive weight, and still maintaining defensive strength.
Exactly. You are talking about a constrained and artificial ideal of two sides with completely maxed th, completely even th levels, and may the best side win.Quote:
Originally Posted by daddylindo
1) What you are asking for already exists. Join a tourney or an elite league or something. Wait, what's that you say -- you want those matchups 3 times a week, to win loot and stars? Well,
2) Good luck finding that in regular war matchmaking. You've already pointed out that maxing a base is hard. It is! No doubt whatsoever. So, how many clans have done it? Small subset. How many clans have the same th comp you do? Small subset of a small subset--joint independence and multiplicative, I suspect. How many are searching at your time? I've heard solutions proposed for this, but so far nugatory.
3 = 1 + 2) If you are expecting routinely to be matched, in open search, to clans with perfect parity--especially when you have a manifestly and self-admitted roster-engineered lineup--dream on. There is almost always going to be some mismatch in some dimension.
You happen not to like the particular matchups you are getting, claiming they are unfair to your clan... in some dimension.
You happen to blame this on engineering, which you have excoriated as not only unfair, but even anti-American in one particularly ill-tempered post.
You happen to believe that SuperCell SHOULD fix it so that your chosen upgrade path and clan composition are treated "fairly".
You happen to believe that SuperCell CAN fix it so that your chosen upgrade path and clan composition are treated "fairly".
You happen to believe that SuperCell WANTS TO fix it so that your chosen upgrade path and clan composition are treated "fairly".
You happen to believe that SuperCell SHOULD WANT TO fix it so that your chosen upgrade path and clan composition are treated "fairly".
Is the pattern clear now? You are putting expectations upon other people, over whom you have zero power, and basing your personal satisfaction thereof. Path to unhappiness. Reinhold Niebuhr is your guy.
Again, you are welcome to swing by, just because they are in the clan, doesn't mean they are in war. Yes, the last clan used roster engineering to get the matchup, as they didn't even log into 3 of their accounts and used 2 others strictly for luring CC's. We were on a 10 win streak. I might also add they had two 11's, two 10.5s, an engineered 10.5 and an engineered 10, so obviously something worked for them this matchup anyway. There are multiple things that were probably accounting for the matchup, but regardless I'm still a believer that every clan should match an opponent that both sides have an opportunity to win, not because you hoping that the other side fails multiple attacks to give you a chance because they are so much stronger at the top. But it won't change regardless, it will continue until SC decides they feel like changing the algorithms.Quote:
Originally Posted by MossackFonseca
Theres an opponent for everybody. I dont even care if the opponent heroes are bigger, as long as its not 30/30 against 10/5 obviously, which i think they can differentiate, but if our th9 has 25/22 and his mirror has 30/30, makes no difference to me. He still has 4 spells and 220. It comes down to attacking and base design at that point. Th9's are not stopping 5 spells and 240 with th10 troops. And im not a mirror guy, we attack by town hall but im using an example. All we see now are th10's without infernos, getting easy cleans on our 9's, yet when we do get evenly matched 9's, they struggle on us. And the fact that they take the whole clans weight into consideration, it makes it difficult to gauge when 30 players are engineering their accounts. It leads to bad matchups. And its getting worse, cuz its a trend now. I think its ♥♥ that one clan has an easier time cleaning and an easier path to victory. The victory should be won ON THE FIELD, not by the dorky coach with his clipboard. I think people should be obligated to purchase everything from the shop when their town hall changed so everyone is in the same boat. Maybe you just gotta sit out a couple wars until you get your camps and a few troops, BIG DEAL. Or gem if you need the action that bad. Im tired of the "dont tell me how to upgrade" excuse. Stop trying to make yourselves look like brain surgeons. You're only exploiting the MM. And it begins to prey on clans because it amortizes into too many higher powered offenses that the defenses cant handle. I dont wanna hear "there's a way to fight or its skill to overcome", most of the time, IT'S NOT. Just like our war 2 wars ago, we COULDNT WIN. If everyone purchased everything from the shop, the wars would be much more even. They can calculate hero weights to not match 30/30 against 10/5, Im not buying they cant. 2222 brought up a good point about maxers not being able to go backwards... what about them?? Do they matter? Or are you engineers so stuck in your own behinds to not even care? Win at all costs right? Even if the wars become not fun, lets just have a green war log. Yayyyyyyyyy. Why do you engineer? You like attacking weaker bases? That must be it, because you certainly dont like attacking stronger bases. Weak quality to haveQuote:
Originally Posted by posthoc
Your response was illuminating. Especially the suggestion that folks should be obligated to buy stuff from shops.
I now know how to proceed.
Go ahead buddy. Enjoy. Your clan is level 11 with 215 wins. Your record cant be that good. Thank god you engineer lol... it would be even worseQuote:
Originally Posted by posthoc
If we engineered as much as you think, or if engineering helped as much as you think, we would have a better record. Neh? You can't have your silly rant and soapbox, and also eat same.
Very typical offensive DLQuote:
Originally Posted by daddylindo