All that needs to change is the match making engineered clans should find each other and non engineered could find each other every one wins that way :). They would have to rework it and would probably take a lot longer to match though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Monkeyhole
and where is the line drawn that says avg player, rushed player, engineer or maxer?Quote:
Originally Posted by smokenbooze1
idk thats why i said clans would be matched accordingly it would require an even weighting per member vs the overall clan weight we have now.Quote:
Originally Posted by shadowlord1972
I'm not against even match ups, if those even exist. What I dislike about this type of threads is how misleading they can be. Users blow things out of proportion because they don't want diversity. Everytime someone says something like;Quote:
Originally Posted by smokenbooze1
" We have five th9s and they have three th11s and two th10s with infernoes on top" I feel so disgusted. To go to such extremes to get your own personal agenda across is very awe inspiring for me. I usually ask for pics or clan tags to go visit and see the outrageous claims and everytime I'm met with silence. It makes me believe they are blowing things out of proportion because they hate rushers or anything not maxer related.
Maybe I'm naive or very unlucky ( or lucky depending on how you want to see it ), but in over 50 wars and counting we have never met a single engineered clan. Then I see users who claim they match them every 4 to 5 wars. How is that even possible ?
Also, so that we are clear, I'm pro engineering and maxing. I like diversity in the game. I'm currently "engineered" but not because I'm trying to game the MM, but because I'm a rusher and I flew all the way to th9 to farm my queen and walls. Engineering is the only sensible solution if I still want to war. I would drop more defenses but then maxers wont want me and smart rushers wont want me because they only take engineers. So you see, engineering isnt as clear as "Engineers want easy wars or engineers want to bully people". The way the game and the community behaves has sort of brought this outcome into the game. This is another reason why I dislike this sort of threads which suggest an easy way out to kill a style of play.
I like how prior to bans, non-cheaters/modders were grouped into "fairplay". Now that engineering is all the rage, us non-engineers are called "maxers" because we don't try to game the system.
OP's post has nothing to do with engineering or not. I really do not think it works that way. I have my own theory of looking at this.
I think you need to look at it like an invisible ranking your clan is at. Let me explain.
Where your clan is in the ranking gets higher with a win and lower with a loss. This ranking is internal and not shown to the players.
The mm takes the winstreaks into account to create harder challenges for clans that have a winstreak because they climb higher and higher with every win. It makes perfect sense that you get harder matchups, the longer your winstreak is. Because you get matched up with other clans that are also higher on the ranking.
Look at it from the other side, the loss streak. If you have a huge loss streak (let's say 5 or 4) then your clan should get an easier matchup at some point. Because your clan gets matched up with other clans that are less skilled.
To me this is very fair, because every clan, no matter how much they suck, should have a good time in the game. This to keep your clan and the players in it for getting super frustrated of all those losses and quit.
Now, the engineered clans are usually know what they are doing. Either through skill or advantage of the better offense compared to defense the engineered clans would normally have a higher winstreak and are higher on the ranking. That is why you will get matched up with either an engineered clan with more skill or a clan with higher defense/offense the higher your winstreak is. To me this makes perfect sense.
Yeah ofcourse when you first get "normal" matches and your winstreak gets higher it is no fun to get matched up with a clan that is just better then yours, but think of the clans that loose all the time. Don't they deserve some fun too ?
seems like you never want to find a war opponent if you want to wait for a clan with the exact same th level troops defenses and offenses of each th in your clan. I would rather have 3 wars a week and have 1 mismatch a week then to only have a war 1 time every other week waiting for that absolute perfect match. and how many clans would you expect to be able to war with? unless every th is the same and every th is maxed at 11 then it would be virtually impossible to accomplish what your asking for. unless you suggest that only maxed out th 11 can war?Quote:
Originally Posted by smokenbooze1
it happens every week with aws and potlucks, all it would do is match up with a th breakdown i didnt say an exact weight i said even. Just a side note potluck spins match ridiculously quick since its matching the th breakdown so do aws usually so it may not even increase search time muchQuote:
Originally Posted by shadowlord1972
Theres a thread about how to avoid engineering clans. Good info.Quote:
Originally Posted by smokenbooze1
I will say if your clan has a few mature TH 11 at the top it definitely is less of a factor than when matching TH 10 against a slew of 10.5, defenseless 11 and some war roster TH 3's thrown in as well.
we run th9+ wars rarely ever see engineered clansQuote:
Originally Posted by Kraven001